Please stop with the Full-Power Galactus Nonsense!!

Started by leonidas5 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
No biggi,

an honest mistake in a mass overload of cropped scans I have.

Whether I look good or not means not little, but nothing actually.

I always said I have been wrong and will continue to be wrong, as you have been before too. (I'm not perfect)

Some cats around here always overlook when they're proven wrong, not me though, I admit it like a man.

I went back, flipped pages and noticed I was wrong about that ONE Scan, I won't try to yip yap my way out of it, or overlook it like others do when I'm the one doing the disproven.

On the other hand, isn't it intersting that you thought that Scan didn't mean much towards the idea that FP Galactus = Eternity, now we realize that's Doom with the Beyonder's Power, which means what Doom did was FAR beyond the scope of all the comparisons you match him with.

So I was wrong, but you were wrong in comparing that Feat in the Scan with Galactus, Strange and whoever else you threw into the mix. 😎

glad you owned the error. 😎

but . . . regardless of who did it, i still don't see what he did as being that great (after all we DID confuse it with a galactus level feat . . .) for all the reasons i mentioned. being the beyonder's power i suppose it's reasonable to say he is showing him layers galactus (perhaps even eternity) could not, but . . . with the beyonder's power he shows him that? 😬 meh, maybe that's the foundation of multi-eternity. don't matter much. just glad the issue is resolved.

with a minimum of bloodshed. 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
glad you owned the error. 😎

I've made them before.

Remember the time when I thought Death was unfased by the IG, you wisely pointed out that Thanos wasn't trying to hurt her.

She did however, shield Starfox and a rotting Nebula.

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, maybe that's the foundation of multi-eternity. don't matter much. just glad the issue is resolved.

You know, I think that was the Multi-verse, just because the name Multi-Eternity wasn't used doesn't change the possibility.

I'll give you an example:

"I could rend this Universe from end to end with a gesture"

In the same paragraph he also say's, " I could lay ALL Eternity at your feet"

I believe he's implying the Multi-verse when he says " ALL Eternity"

Originally posted by leonidas
with a minimum of bloodshed. 🙂

🙂

cool. let's leave it at that and call it problem solved and case closed.

🙂

I really wanted to point that out, but I was to much of a lazy ass.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I really wanted to point that out, but I was to much of a lazy ass.

yah, yah . . .

well, next time get off your lazy ass! i wouldn't mind a hand once in a while!

😄

I tried to debunct that ludicris "Multi-Eternity" scan he was shoving...

not sure what scan you're talking about.

The one where Warlock meets "Multi-Eternity". How did Mr.M logicaly justify that this wasn't plain Eternity? Because he acted like he was pissed at Warlock.

I own the issue. It's Bull. Nothing that would make it be "Multi-Eternity".

Originally posted by King Kandy
The one where Warlock meets "Multi-Eternity". How did Mr.M logicaly justify that this wasn't plain Eternity? Because he acted like he was pissed at Warlock.

I own the issue. It's Bull. Nothing that would make it be "Multi-Eternity".


It actually says Multi-Eternity on Panel... As far as i can recall it..

Originally posted by King Kandy
The one where Warlock meets "Multi-Eternity". How did Mr.M logicaly justify that this wasn't plain Eternity? Because he acted like he was pissed at Warlock.

I own the issue. It's Bull. Nothing that would make it be "Multi-Eternity".

i have the issue, but don't recall exactly. i'd need to look it up, or someone would need to -repost the scan . . . 😗

Originally posted by King Kandy
The one where Warlock meets "Multi-Eternity". How did Mr.M logicaly justify that this wasn't plain Eternity? Because he acted like he was pissed at Warlock.

My logic stems these FACTS...

Eternity and Infinity (the Single Universe) are the ASPECTS of Multi-Eternity, the Multi-verse

And this is what they look like when they UNITE:


"The ASPECT of ALL There Is".....

NOW...

When Warlock meets the Multi-verse for the first time, this is what they look like UNITED

"An ASTRAL UNION of ALL, I NEVER DREAMT"

"You interrupt MORTAL, Speak your piece quickly and BE GONE"

QUITE DIFFERENT, wouldn't you say?

"We cannot be overly Preoccupied by ANY ONE ASPECT of OUR Reality"

"WE are ALL, NO ONE PART of the WHOLE is absolutely indispensable"

1. "By ANY ONE ASPECT of their Reality"

ONE of their ASPECTS is ONE Universe,

2. "We are ALL"

and WHAT?

And "NO ONE PART of the WHOLE is indispensible"

"the Embodiment of ACTUALITY, WE Exist in MYRIAD Fashions"

"Do NOT pester US, UNLIKE OURSELVES, OUR patience is not without limits"

"Embodiment of ACTUALITY"

Thanos used that term for the Multi-verse he absorbed.

"We EXIST in MYRIAD Fashions"

"MYRIAD" means a countless or extremely great number.

Countless Universes in a Multi-verse.

"UNLIKE OURSELVES our patience is not without limits"

OURSELVES?

WHO is OURSELVES that has more patience than them?

The relationship between Warlock & Eternity, they know each other well, even bicker at each other like children sometimes.

Warlock & Eternity(the single universe)know each other well

As you can see..they treat each other with confidence

This is called the Eternal Orb...Eternity (single universe) gave it to Warlock to contact him when the universe is in danger

When Warlock found the Multi-verse, he used the ORB but it opened a doorway he had never seen before, and it took him to a place he had never been before:

"The BUILDING BLOCKS of Reality"

Then Warlock found the Mullti-verse in the above scans.

Leon, be a pal and explain it to him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I own the issue. It's Bull.

Not being able to comprehend something, doesn't make it incorrect.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Nothing that would make it be "Multi-Eternity".

Leon will explain it to you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Leon will explain it to you.

😂

ahh, THAT issue . . .

now, lord knows mr m and i don't see eye-to-eye on everything -- okay, MOST things ( 😄 ) -- but in this case kk, i agree with his interpretation. i remember having a similar interpretation when i read the book for the first time. it was the -- "We cannot be overly Preoccupied by ANY ONE ASPECT of OUR Reality" that sort of implied this was a being beyond the 'standard' version of eternity.

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

ahh, THAT issue . . .

now, lord knows mr m and i don't see eye-to-eye on everything -- okay, MOST things ( 😄 ) -- but in this case kk, i agree with his interpretation. i remember having a similar interpretation when i read the book for the first time. it was the -- "We cannot be overly Preoccupied by ANY ONE ASPECT of OUR Reality" that sort of implied this was a being beyond the 'standard' version of eternity.

They were talking about Goddess at the time and it is implied that the "aspect" was Goddess. "No one part of the whole is absolutely indispensible.....Not even you, Adam Warlock." If this aspect they were referring to is a whole universe or "Single Eternity" why would they call Adam Warlock an aspect or "part of the whole" also? he isnt anymore of an "aspect" than Goddess is. You are right it wasnt the Standard version of Eternity it was Eternity and Infinity melded as one.

hmm, i'm not following your reasoning completely. you mean they were referencing the goddess as an 'aspect' of warlock? that's . . . a bit convoluted for my liking. it's my thinking that they were saying that as vital a role as adam has played in a cosmic sense, even HIS wishes aren't enough to get things done in this case.

then too, there are these bits:

"We EXIST in MYRIAD Fashions"

and

"UNLIKE OURSELVES our patience is not without limits"

who is 'ourselves' and all these 'others' if not counterparts of these 'larger' entities? it is obvious that this was a combination of infinity and eternity, but we've seen them before this. are you saying the only difference this time is that they are together? weren't they shown together in a quasar arc at some point?

What I mean is in this sentence "We cannot be overly Preoccupied by ANY ONE ASPECT of OUR Reality." the "ONE ASPECT" refers to Goddess, and Goddess is just one aspect of Eternity and Infinity's reality, just like Adam Warlock is.

Originally posted by leonidas
it's my thinking that they were saying that as vital a role as adam has played in a cosmic sense, even HIS wishes aren't enough to get things done in this case.

Yeah I agree, what I was trying to say is that Adam Warlock is just another aspect of reality just like Goddess is an aspect of reality.

I do think when they are referring to themselves as "our" or "ourselves", it is just Eternity and Infinity speaking as one talking about themselves. I dont think Eternity is out of character either since Warlock asked Eternity about Goddess before and he said that she held no significance to him.

Originally posted by thedude1948
What I mean is in this sentence "We cannot be overly Preoccupied by ANY ONE ASPECT of OUR Reality." the "ONE ASPECT" refers to Goddess, and Goddess is just one aspect of Eternity and Infinity's reality, just like Adam Warlock is.

Yeah I agree, what I was trying to say is that Adam Warlock is just another aspect of reality just like Goddess is an aspect of reality.

I do think when they are referring to themselves as "our" or "ourselves", it is just Eternity and Infinity speaking as one talking about themselves. I dont think Eternity is out of character either since Warlock asked Eternity about Goddess before and he said that she held no significance to him.

the goddess is an aspect of warlock, though, not eternity or reality. i see where you're coming from with the interpretation, but it seems to me there WAS a difference in the interaction between warlock and this being, and warlock and eternity. you're likely thinking it's because in this case eternity is coupled with infinity, correct? but how do you reconcile the 'myriad fashions' they say they exist in?

Originally posted by leonidas
but how do you reconcile the 'myriad fashions' they say they exist in?

He can't.

I had this debate with the dude a while ago, I see he never got it.

For the record:

The Goddess is an Aspect of Adam Warlock

But if anyone wants to dream that the Goddess is an Aspect of the Universe, go right ahead.

I know Goddess is the good side of Adam Warlock I was never arguing that. Eternity is the embodiment of the universe right? (Everything that is in the universe is a part of him), and Goddess and Infinity Crusade took place in the Universe so it is an "aspect of reality" if it wasnt that would mean Goddess and Infinity Crusade existed outside of the Universe (which it didnt).

"No One part of the whole is absolutely indispensible.... Not even you Adam Warlock."
If that is Multi-Eternity/Infinity what does this mean? is Adam Warlock a part of Multi-Eternity?

Originally posted by thedude1948
I know Goddess is the good side of Adam Warlock I was never arguing that.

The Goddess is the good ASPECT of Adam Warlock.

Originally posted by thedude1948
"No One part of the whole is absolutely indispensible.... Not even you Adam Warlock."

This is what's confusing you I see.

When the Multi-verse tells Warlock, "Not even you Warlock" it's telling Warlock he's not indespensible just LIKE an ASPECT of themselves isn't either.

No, they mean Warlock is an aspect. Anything in the universe is an aspect of the universe.

Warlock is an aspect, or a certain view or facet of something. If he is part of the universe, then he is a facet of the universe, and thus an aspect. The Godess is an aspect, or facet of him, but is also part, or an aspect, of the universe. agreed?