Originally posted by King Kandy
No, they mean Warlock is an aspect. Anything in the universe is an aspect of the universe.Warlock is an aspect, or a certain view or facet of something. If he is part of the universe, then he is a facet of the universe, and thus an aspect. The Godess is an aspect, or facet of him, but is also part, or an aspect, of the universe.
Well, I can see this is going nowhere.
As you wish.
Originally posted by King Kandy
agreed?
NO!
Forget all of the other unrelated Eternity scans from other titles which hold no relevance to this one.
Here the subject matter is the GODDESS.
Adam approaches Eternity/Infinity about her and they say she is of no concern to them basically and they dismiss him.
Puzzled, Adam concludes that they were aware of her existence and questions why then did they not inform him of her existence if they knew all along.
E/I cuts him off thereby finishing the question saying no they saw no reason to inform Adam about the Goddess or concern themselves over her.
E/I continues by saying they basically preside over the space/time continuum and they cannot be overly worried by any one aspect of that reality. (i.e the Goddess)
This is Eternity and Infinity talking in unison here (they are after all two sides of the same coin) but here as is often the case on panel they are represented as two entities. Hence the use of "OURSELVES"
To prove they mean the Goddess when they say "aspect" in this conversation, Adams very next line basically shows his surprise that that E/I are indifferent to the major threat (from his perspective) that the Goddess poses " You are not telling me the Goddess' intentions are benign are you?"
That proves conclusively that by aspect they mean Goddess. That is the matter Adam brought to E/I and their replies are in accordance with topic. As are Adams replies to their replies lol. Its all about the Goddess.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think my respect for you just went down a notch. You can't grasp such simple concepts as the definition of "Aspect".
He knows, hes not stupid, just very very stubborn and unwilling to even consider the notion that his interpretation is wrong. He does after all choose to interpret things in a way beneficial to his Pro Beyonder/Anti Phoenix campaign. 😄
As with everything that is OF the universe, the Goddess is an aspect of Eternity because he embodies everything within a reality.
In the same way even though a star is an aspect of Eternity, as Eternity is an aspect of Multi-Eternity, that star would just as much be a part of Multi-Eternitys being. An aspect 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As with everything that is OF the universe, the Goddess is an aspect of Eternity because he embodies everything within a reality.In the same way even though a star is an aspect of Eternity, as Eternity is an aspect of Multi-Eternity, that star would just as much be a part of Multi-Eternitys being. An aspect 🙂
😂
masters AND i agreeing AGAINST you?? surely the end is upon us all!
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guess i'll actually have to go back and check that issue. chronicles or watch? anyone recall the issue # off-hand? 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He knows, hes not stupid, just very very stubborn and unwilling to even consider the notion that his interpretation is wrong. He does after all choose to interpret things in a way beneficial to his Pro Beyonder/Anti Phoenix campaign. 😄
But yeah, sometimes he is stubborn. I just don't think as much as you're atributing to him.
Originally posted by King Kandy
I think it was either chronicals #1 or #2....
actually, it was issue #3, and it seems i owe you an apology kk -- and by extension, thedude. i just re-read that issue and it is amazing what re-reading and full context will cause you to recall!! (i should know better than to trust my rapidly faltering memory! 🙁 )
in any event, i think you and the dude are quite correct. there is no real evidence IN THAT ISSUE that this was multi-eternity. i'd forgotten how things had begun in that issue and this is the second time in as many days where i failed to read all the scans presented because i thought i already KNEW what the scans were. frusty
before warlock finds the 'astral union moebius strip' he quite clearly states he was searching for eternity with the orb. i saw that when i re-read the issue, then looked back and noticed that mrm had even included that scan, just not in the order in which it was presented in the book.
i am a twit. 🙁
bottom-line is i seem to have f'd up the interpretation on account of my laziness. why WOULD the orb have opened a 'new door' and why would multi-eternity have allowed adam to find him if he/it didn't want to be disturbed in the first place? why bring him there if only to dismiss him so shortly? mrm presented all the scans for me to figure it out, i just didn't do so.
i believe the aspect eternity referred to WAS warlock, exactly as kk and dude said. and yes, gs, you too. 😄
meh, when 3 people's opinions whom i respect all say the same thing, i like to double check. sorry to reneg on you mrm, but upon rechecking i gotta say i was wrong. live and learn. 😬
but damn, i f'n HATE being wrong . . .
Originally posted by Mr Master
So, since Eternity and Infinity are,"The ASPECT of ALL There Is".....
I suppose the puny Goddess is their equal, since she is it's Aspect too 😆
Not really, cos theyre saying they are but an aspect of all that is, (either saying they are just MBodys of the universe or referring to them just being a part of a Multi-Eternity), the Goddess however is just an aspect of THEM. Thats totally different im afraid MM 🙁
Originally posted by Mr Master
So, since Eternity and Infinity are,"The ASPECT of ALL There Is".....
I suppose the puny Goddess is their equal, since she is it's Aspect too 😆
i said a long time ago goddess=warlock. but as was pointed out, warlock=eternity (in part, because warlock is OF the universe, hence an aspect OF the universe.)
more to the point: why are you using a scan from a book that has no relevence to the book we were discussing? just because they assumed a different shape (i'd say they could take on an infinity of shapes) why does that necessitate that they are different beings?
taking your scans out of context (as i did, and i've no one to blame but myself) i focused on the discussion scan alone. that was an error. you are trying to tie together too many disparate events and making loose connections BETWEEN books that do not exist WITHIN books.
it clearly says warlock is searching out eternity. because of this, he FINDS eternity, only this time when he finds him, eternity is in bed (so-to-speak) with infinity. that could explain both the way eternity spoke (he was now himself AND infinity) to adam AND the reason why the place looked different.
now the question i have is: is eternity+infinity>eternity alone? that would be seemingly at odds with eternity being the sun total of the universe. i thought a read somewhere that infinity is the temporal aspect, and eternity the spatial aspect, but that's not very satisfying as eternity has been repeatedly depicted as being the 'total' of the universe. if he is NOT, did thanos NOT gain control of ALL the universe? after all he supplanted only eternity, not infinity.
anyway, the bottom line is nothing in the book we are discussing supports a vision of multi-eternity. 😬 the only way you yourself can come to such a speculatory conclusion is by drawing connections from a number of sources NOT related to the book in question.
Originally posted by leonidas
i said a long time ago goddess=warlock. but as was pointed out, warlock=eternity (in part, because warlock is OF the universe, hence an aspect OF the universe.)more to the point: why are you using a scan from a book that has no relevence to the book we were discussing? just because they assumed a different shape (i'd say they could take on an infinity of shapes) why does that necessitate that they are different beings?
taking your scans out of context (as i did, and i've no one to blame but myself) i focused on the discussion scan alone. that was an error. you are trying to tie together too many disparate events and making loose connections BETWEEN books that do not exist WITHIN books.
it clearly says warlock is searching out eternity. because of this, he FINDS eternity, only this time when he finds him, eternity is in bed (so-to-speak) with infinity. that could explain both the way eternity spoke (he was now himself AND infinity) to adam AND the reason why the place looked different.
now the question i have is: is eternity+infinity>eternity alone? that would be seemingly at odds with eternity being the sun total of the universe. i thought a read somewhere that infinity is the temporal aspect, and eternity the spatial aspect, but that's not very satisfying as eternity has been repeatedly depicted as being the 'total' of the universe. if he is NOT, did thanos NOT gain control of ALL the universe? after all he supplanted only eternity, not infinity.
anyway, the bottom line is nothing in the book we are discussing supports a vision of multi-eternity. 😬 the only way you yourself can come to such a speculatory conclusion is by drawing connections from a number of sources NOT related to the book in question.
As was explained in Infinity Wars, Infinity and Eternity were essentialy the same entity. When Magus mezmorized Eternity, he bound Infinity as well, and thus Gamora saw TWO beings when she freed Eternity.
"I suppose the puny Goddess is their equal, since she is it's Aspect too"
That is deeply flawed logic. Your streching to say that all aspects HAVE to be equal.
Heres an example:
There is a prism, that leans inward, thus one side is larger then the other. Both sides are aspects, but one is larger (Or in this case, more powerful.) then the other, so aspects aren't necesarily equal.
