Originally posted by FistOfThe North
So is what your saying is, is that racism is was and still is a "white" or Caucasian imposed and enforced ideology in order to separate.Hm..I'd add xenophobia in as well.
I am saying that is where the Racism as an ideology was born. Such concept did not exist before then.
Racism is far more complex today, then it was few hundred years ago.
The fact is, black people are also racist.
(this is of course strictly speaking in America)
In many cases (atleast where im from) racism gets mixed up with culture crashes. Many of the people being accused of being/or claims to be racist are in fact not. In many cases its just like i said a culture crash.
As an example(this is just an example it works both ways): if you take lets say a group of black dudes (dont get any idea´s of me being racist now). and put them in a "white country". if they walk around and acting all "GANGSTA" talking sh*t and making noise and so on. Some person may say damn Ni**ers, instantly he is a racist. However if the same group of black men are behaving and not making a lot of noise and getting on ppls nervs. That same person might like them or he doesnt care about them. So often its a matter of culture crashes instead of pure racism. The dude dont like the "GANGSTAS" but he dont mind black ppl at all.
*This text is an example of "how it might be" and is not meant to be negative to any "race"( it could be the other way around)*
Re: psychology of racism
Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I don't understand getting irked by the apparent visual pigmentation of body parts to a point of hating the people who the pigments give the color to. 😕To me personally the different coloration of people is just visually so beautiful. The colorfulness of "white" people and the uniform brown tones of "black" people are such diverse and pretty a sight. 😊
so yeah...the idea of racism i don't understand. 😕
The reason why people are racists varies from person to person. Like PVS pointed out; it stems from the herd instinct present in most social creatures. And there's different degrees/forms of racism from a superiority belief to down right hating someone for the fact that they exist.
I personally think that racism is similar to religion in many ways: its a belief that a person chooses to adhere to and it affects their everyday life. And like religion, racists have various degrees in their devotion to the belief. Plus, you can't change their opinion or make them believe otherwise.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am saying that is where the Racism as an ideology was born. Such concept did not exist before then.
Racism is far more complex today, then it was few hundred years ago.The fact is, black people are also racist.
(this is of course strictly speaking in America)
Just in-case, I never denied the fact that black people weren't racist so that was unnecessarily written but in any case, racism coming from blacks is different. It's more tolrable. -not that any form of racism should be tolerated- It's not racism out of hate or because of the color of one's skin, as whites practice it. Blacks probably learned it from watching whites practicing it, if anything.
I think racism is and act pass down from the oldest to the youngest. For example, when children at a young age come incontact with another child. Let say day care or kindergarden, theres no color discrimination bet them. They get along with each other despite the others ethncity. If there is a problem bet them, its probably ones behavior towards the other.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Just in-case, I never denied the fact that black people weren't racist so that was unnecessarily written but in any case, racism coming from blacks is different. It's more tolrable. -not that any form of racism should be tolerated- It's not racism out of hate or because of the color of one's skin, as whites practice it. Blacks probably learned it from watching whites practicing it, if anything.
I know you're kidding, you have to be kidding. In DC there were a number of times I was threatened to be shot at gun point because of my color, dude your a fool.
Originally posted by Soleran
I know you're kidding, you have to be kidding. In DC there were a number of times I was threatened to be shot at gun point because of my color, dude your a fool.
So. The -white run- U.S. gov't hanged blacks by the neck until dead for merely looking a a white women just only 30-40 years ago.
I'm not kidding, but let me rephrase. Racism coming from "most" blacks is tolerable.
Meaning the racial tolerance threshold is much more significant in Whites than it is for Blacks. There's is fueled by fear and hated. With Blacks it's more sticking with each other.
Racism is a required tool for evil to exist. There is always going to be a balance of good and evil and racism is one of the biggest factors that come in play.
If racism didn't exist, something else would be worse or something new would arise to balance good and evil.
Its a good thing that intelligence > evil. And true intelligence is not inherited - it is learned thru the trials and tribulations of life itself.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
So. The -white run- U.S. gov't hanged blacks by the neck until dead for merely looking a a white women just only 30-40 years ago.I'm not kidding, but let me rephrase. Racism coming from "most" blacks is tolerable.
Meaning the racial tolerance threshold is much more significant in Whites than it is for Blacks. There's is fueled by fear and hated. With Blacks it's more sticking with each other.
In the end, it's wrong. And in the end, racism was not invented by whites. Blacks are not morally superior to whites.
Originally posted by FistOfThe Northwhat she's really saying is that the concept of racism in America was begun by rich white folk who had their eye on the bottom line instead of any sinister intent. I'm inclined to believe it.
So is what your saying is, is that racism is was and still is a "white" or Caucasian imposed and enforced ideology in order to separate.Hm..I'd add xenophobia in as well.
However, it evolved, and now most of the racism in this country is restricted to the South and blacks
Originally posted by FistOfThe NorthDumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
Just in-case, I never denied the fact that black people weren't racist so that was unnecessarily written but in any case, racism coming from blacks is different. It's more tolrable. -not that any form of racism should be tolerated- It's not racism out of hate or because of the color of one's skin, as whites practice it. Blacks probably learned it from watching whites practicing it, if anything.
What he is saying is that whites are usually the oppressors [sp?].
In history, this is proven. So if anyone wants to argue that whites aren't usually the oppressors, i'll ignore them.
So now that blacks are hating on whites it is just as bad? You white people that are angry that blacks hate you for your color are only experiencing the front lines of racism.
LOL, its a really funny joke really - how hypocritical most white people are. Obviously racism is wrong in ALL sides but whites shouldn't ***** about getting such a lite brand.
Originally posted by HarmoNiC FLo
What he is saying is that whites are usually the oppressors [sp?].In history, this is proven. So if anyone wants to argue that whites aren't usually the oppressors, i'll ignore them.
So now that blacks are hating on whites it is just as bad? You white people that are angry that blacks hate you for your color are only experiencing the front lines of racism.
LOL, its a really funny joke really - how hypocritical most white people are. Obviously racism is wrong in ALL sides but whites shouldn't ***** about getting such a lite brand.
Well, in all history that counts it was usually white people that were racist. But it is not proven that whites are inherently more racist than others. And they can ***** about racism they experience just as much as anyone else. Racism is idiotic either way. If you can't take that blackscan also be racist, you should maybe just shut up.
Originally posted by HarmoNiC FLo
What he is saying is that whites are usually the oppressors [sp?].In history, this is proven. So if anyone wants to argue that whites aren't usually the oppressors, i'll ignore them.
So now that blacks are hating on whites it is just as bad? You white people that are angry that blacks hate you for your color are only experiencing the front lines of racism.
LOL, its a really funny joke really - how hypocritical most white people are. Obviously racism is wrong in ALL sides but whites shouldn't ***** about getting such a lite brand.
So wait, because whites used to be racists against blacks, blacks are now allowed to be racists against whites and whites should just stop complaining? What kind of idiotic bullshit is that? Either all racism is wrong or none of it is. One kind of racism is not better then the other kind.