psychology of racism

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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Assuing we are talking about USA - The idea of racism is a very NEW phenomenon.

It didn't get born out of fear or hateret of people of other colour, it bore out of slavery.
When black slaves were brought to America, they very quickly started making friends, and getting aquaintated with while folks of the same status - dirt poor, servents, slave white people...

And soon the marriages happened between the Africans and Anglo-Saxons.

Rich land owners feared that there might be a rebellion as the black and white were getting along so well (being in the same financial situation - to think that all white people were rich and land owners is just wrong).

Rich people then outlawed interracial marriages, and to further eliminate the risks of uprising, they introduced an ideology of Racism, to separate black and white.

Sinister, isn't it.

BS

Originally posted by Fishy
So wait, because whites used to be racists against blacks, blacks are now allowed to be racists against whites and whites should just stop complaining? What kind of idiotic bullshit is that? Either all racism is wrong or none of it is. One kind of racism is not better then the other kind.

Someone mentioned race? My fav subject.

I think racism depends on various factors, in some respects, it's systematic, and not related to the white race at all, just people in general. For instance, I had a former college roommate from New Zealand, she talked about the indigenous group that only leases their land to foreigners, whites can have property, but if they can't "own" it, it always goes back to the indigenous folks. She doesn't like them, but her grandmother is one of them, she had a derog. name for them that I won't repeat, but I wouldn't label her racist at all, more like one part of the family hating the other based on property, people of the same race dislike each other for the same reasons but will use whatever physical attributes aval to put the other person down.

Now, various factors of racism:

1. Personality type

(I believe there are some that have a predisposition to racism b/c they're star or sun sign is so carnal, they only like what is familiar, everything else goes to blazes, and that means, anyone from that particular star sign has the disposition or tendency toward racism.

2. Consistent Bad experiences

If I get beat up by blacks, and I am black, I will still hate black people, doesn't matter that I look like the group or not. Or, if I feel that blacks are domineering toward me to be a certain way, and I like my own individual freedom, but it's not respected, I would hate being black. So, racism isn't mutually exclusive to the opposite race, it can include the same race, depending on experiences. If a female is raped by a guy of the same or opposite race, she can become racist, against her own race if the guy is from the same race or racist against the color of the guy who raped her. The trouble I have with blacks is that the "raping" of black women was in the PAST, the past. And no need to rehash the past to cause younger generations to feel that they need to be loyal and hate whites.

3. Sexual tension or ego
Some may have complexes about being attracted to someone different then their mother's/dad's race, depending on if he/she had the personality sun sign of a racist, he/she may have influenced by the parents personality or bad experiences. Sometimes, people are kinder to those who are attractive, no matter the race. But no all attractive people produce attractive children, and not all attractive children are from good looking parents, hence, these folks love each other b/c they are familiar, but society around them may treat one better then the other based on looks, and may find tension as one family member who is good looking gets along with all races, and the one who is not as attractive seems to get picked on or left behind. If the attractive one has a close bond with family, he/she may resent the superficials and all the attention may backlash, as family sometimes sticks together.

Also, black men seem to prefer white women, but seem to be very possessive of any female that even resembles blackishness (brown, light brown, slightly curly hair, round face, almond eyes, wavy hair)...they start to take on a possessiveness toward the female, even is she doesn't want it, which makes them think she is racist, when really, she may just dislike the possessiveness from strangers. Black men do prefer white women because I remember reading that in Morocco, during the British Empire, the Brits sold the Irish women as slaves or sex slaves to work as harems. I think even in most belly dance, they prefer white women, which is great, but I thing is stop pretending that it's not a big deal when it really is. So, if black men have this fetish for white women, and a lot of white women are very pretty, and they have this possessiveness to control black women (as they don't mind fat women, b/c they know that's one that a white man wouldn't touch), they have the best of both worlds, they go to the black females who aren't sexing white men (as most black females feel that weight is ok, and that black men tell black females not to get skinny) and they put out a lot of sexual vibes toward white women, so they get to dip in both sides of the candle whenever they chose, I feel that they can care less that most men don't find black women attractive, because that's less competition for them. Think of the competition that Asian men have to deal with if they like an Asian female, see the issue, so black men have more control over black females.

4. Economic issues
I'll explain later, but blacks had blacks as slaves, blacks have had whites as slaves, whites have had blacks as slaves, we, as in mankind, have been doing this to one another. It sucks ass, but it's just part of the human argument of the Haves, and the Have-snots, has nothing to do with race, some blacks love Egypt, but they enslaves a lot of blacks, as whites had whites for slaves too. The only empire I respect the most is the Greeks, as they felt that once a person is able to reason, they could no longer be a slave, had nothing to do with race at all. Slavery is in the mind first. Oh, and herd followers are mind-slaves, I like my individuality, but sometimes, being black gets in the way.

Please stop.

Originally posted by Gregory
Please stop.

You have a better explanation? Do tell.

We all know you're a racist. It's transparent. I just wish you'd stop flaunting it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
So is what your saying is, is that racism is was and still is a "white" or Caucasian imposed and enforced ideology in order to separate.

Hm..I'd add xenophobia in as well.

Can you tell us which white person pissed in your cornflakes? Like, literally the specific white guy that has done you so wrong that you have developed this irrational disgust with all things white.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Also, black men seem to prefer white women, but seem to be very possessive of any female that even resembles blackishness

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do you observe black people when your not busy?

Fear plain and simple is the motivation of racism

Often that fear is irrational and unfounded but in many cases is related to experiences people have had

I find that black people make me nervous this is an unfounded and unconcious fear that I cannot explain it does not make me racist b/c I do not conciously believe black people to be different.

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
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do you observe black people when your not busy?

My "theory" is based on my own imperical observation.

And NO, I am not racist. I am having an argument and am disappointed in what I see, but not a racist as in the sense of "exterminate" or "hurt" another group, if you actually knew how much WORK I've done for the black community, you would be floored.

And I am not flaunting racism or racist beliefs, if someone is truly understanding the arguments that I posed, they would not state that about me, but for those who do, I can honestly say, they don't know me. I addressed specific problems in the black community, they can take that and call me all sorts of perjuratives, or, they can factor in what might be true and fix it for the next generation of PEOPLE, not race, but PEOPLE. If I were truly racist, I would never point out a single flaw, least they correct it, see, now that is someone who wants to subjugate, know the difference!!

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
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do you observe black people when your not busy?

πŸ˜† seriously...

Originally posted by Oncewhite
My "theory" is based on my own imperical observation.

that doesn't invalidate the question

where do you get this imperical evidence? (observation is the only answer I can think of)

Originally posted by SpadeKing
πŸ˜† seriously...

Well, I am not racist by stating that I benefit from white society, that's just the truth.

And hush your laughing, remember, as Storm, my mutant powers allow me to summon my eponymous whirlwinds and thunder!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Fear plain and simple is the motivation of racism

Often that fear is irrational and unfounded but in many cases is related to experiences people have had

I find that black people make me nervous this is an unfounded and unconcious fear that I cannot explain it does not make me racist b/c I do not conciously believe black people to be different.

Ok, I can go slow. In my experiences and observations in life, people who are racist, tend to be this way because:

1. Personality type
2. Bad Experience
3. Family history with personality-type racists
4. Sexual tension/ego
5. Economics

Now, argue that 1-5 isn't true!

OK

1)what's a racist personality?
2)I've never had bad experiences w/ black people (many more w/ whites really)
3)none in my family or friend
4)sexuality doesn't really apply to me
5)how on earth could economics be relevant?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OK

1)what's a racist personality?
2)I've never had bad experiences w/ black people (many more w/ whites really)
3)none in my family or friend
4)sexuality doesn't really apply to me
5)how on earth could economics be relevant?

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Then you passed the racist IQ test. There are star signs for people of all sorts of personalities, from the type that can marry for money and not love, to the type that are cruel, to the type that works on balance and needs this in life.

Just b/c YOU have had great experiences with all people, doesn't mean that everyone has had your experiences.

Economics is relevant in any race or group...it's like with anything else in life, if a parent is Black or Asian or White, and doesn't want their kid to marry someone different, they can pull the purse strings away from their kid(s)...parents aren't the only ones who play this game of control, and it's done in EVERY race, so race isn't a "white" issue, it's a personality, experience, sexuality, and economic issue.

Re: psychology of racism

Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I don't understand getting irked by the apparent visual pigmentation of body parts to a point of hating the people who the pigments give the color to. πŸ˜•

To me personally the different coloration of people is just visually so beautiful. The colorfulness of "white" people and the uniform brown tones of "black" people are such diverse and pretty a sight. 😊

so yeah...the idea of racism i don't understand. πŸ˜•

Nor do I, because people are all beautiful.

Yet in saying that, I do believe that people act differently on a one to one level and in groups. Also in certain cities people are different then other cities. In this area there are many ethnic groups and I have seen how they behave in relation to one another. In fact I am part of an ethnic group and can see how my relatives react to other ethnic groups. Quite prejudice actually, and in saying this, I can see how others also act in such a way. And yes I can say that in at least this city and one in Ohio that blacks do ..or I should say that some blacks do prefer white women...Or light olive women, and what I would consider rude, is, from what I've been told a natural "cat call"...But not used to it in my group, but consider it rude because I no not of the other groups actions or behaviors that are of that group.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
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Then you passed the racist IQ test.

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Originally posted by Oncewhite
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There are star signs for people of all sorts of personalities, from the type that can marry for money and not love, to the type that are cruel, to the type that works on balance and needs this in life.

you just described a clinical psychopath

Originally posted by Oncewhite
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Just b/c YOU have had great experiences with all people, doesn't mean that everyone has had your experiences.

I have good experiences with very few people I just don't know a lot of black people

Originally posted by Oncewhite
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Economics is relevant in any race or group...it's like with anything else in life, if a parent is Black or Asian or White, and doesn't want their kid to marry someone different, they can pull the purse strings away from their kid(s)...parents aren't the only ones who play this game of control, and it's done in EVERY race, so race isn't a "white" issue, it's a personality, experience, sexuality, and economic issue.

did you just say that race is a direct factor in economic position?

That sounds like racism to me

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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you just described a clinical psychopath

I have good experiences with very few people I just don't know a lot of black people

did you just say that race is a direct factor in economic position?

That sounds like racism to me

A clinical psychopath? Not any more then a person who can marry for money and not love. Can u image sleeping with a man or a woman you don't love, just for income? Yeah, people do this all the time, so there is a personality type that transcends race that is in everybody, just like there are gold-diggers in every race and gender, there are those who have this predisposition, call them names all you want, but it won't change this person's behavior. I can see if someone has gone through bad experiences and ended up racist, but for someone who was just "born" that way, I think it's their sun sign, lol, blame it on the stars!

I am not stating that economics is a direct factor, economics is a TOOL, it's used to do good and bad.

Don't judge ME, looked at the 5 factors and really think on it. And think on how this effects ethnicity, not only race, or inter-race relations...think about the five factors, I bet if someone is racist, it's either b/c of a bad experience, sexual ego/tension, personality type, or some economic ploy that lends them to think the way they do.

I do wonder though why it is that many black men that I have met are so much bolder then white men. And I wonder if they understand that this is quite disturbing to some of us.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
A clinical psychopath?

cruel, emotionless, manipulative

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Can u image sleeping with a man or a woman you don't love, just for income?

Yes without hesitation. I don't really get love but I do understand the usefulness of money.

Originally posted by Oncewhite

I am not stating that economics is a direct factor, economics is a TOOL, it's used to do good and bad.

economics is a condition

Originally posted by Oncewhite

Don't judge ME, looked at the 5 factors and really think on it.

If you can judge ME then I can judge YOU.

As for you 5 factors I believe none of them apply.

However unavoidable xenophobia brought on by living in predomiantly white areas for all of my childhood does apply to my thought patterns but not conciously.