Religish

*Special Thanks to JM for inspiring this topic...* Love ya !

You ever notice how a large majority of Religious Fundamentalists happen to consist of a rather ignorant population?

Why is it that the majority of those who hold a deep, stern, and closeminded grasp of thier Faith happen to either:

1) Know nothing of science

2) Have been raised by religious parents

3) Ignore and disappreciate other Philosophies

4) Have a low tolerance for social differences

5) Not know how to spell

6) Speak only one language

7) Have been raised in secluded areas, areas where Poverty and Lack of Education are abundant, or areas where violence is common

8) Beleive they know everything

9) Not read that many books

How do you expect an Athiest, Agnostic, or person of another Faith to convert to YOUR religion, when the majority of people who happen to represent mainstream religion have such low credentials in terms of experience and wisdom ?

OH SNAP. 😛

Well actually some fundamentalists are well educated.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You ever notice how a large majority of Religious Fundamentalists happen to consist of a rather ignorant population?

I seriously have my doubts concerning your motives, and I will be monitoring this thread closely.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen

1) Know nothing of science

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
2) Have been raised by religious parents

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
3) Ignore and disappreciate other Philosophies

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
4) Have a low tolerance for social differences

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
5) Not know how to spell

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
6) Speak only one language

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
7) Have been raised in secluded areas, areas where Poverty and Lack of Education are abundant, or areas where violence is common

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
8) Beleive they know everything

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
9) Not read that many books

Now, if you're talking about extremists... then ignore this. But a person can be very religious and also be educated and understanding of other people.

Originally posted by Storm
No. Atheists are not necessarily more better than theists. That is not only naked bigotry, but is in fact an example of how atheists can fail to be rational and adopt just the sort of ridiculous beliefs which they find contemptible in others! By expressing these assumptions you communicate your prejudice. I won' t be surprised if this would be considered as an act of hostility, and be responded to accordingly.

I seriously have my doubts concerning your motives, and I will be monitoring this thread closely.

Storm, I find it funny how you too will often argue against religious fundamentalism but then get angry when myself or Alliance make threads or arguments which criticize religious extremism.

Because THAT is what I am addressing, and always intend to address. I am NOT targetting religion as a whole, nor am I targetting religious people in general...

This thread is DIRECTLY targetting the ignorant section of religious fundamentalists, not the TOTALITY of religious people.

You say you have doubts concerning my motives....how much clearer can the motive be in this thread ?

I am certainly not complimenting religious extremists, nor am i complimenting Christian Fundamentalism involved in Politics.

However, if you truly feel that this thread is an act of hostility, then I welcome you to Close it. You don't HAVE TO put up with it, if this thread truly offends you that much. Geez...

On a SIDE note...ofcourse Athiest are no better than Thiests. I also find it funny how a majority of serial killers happen to be Athiest....says a lot doesn't it ?

Knowing this, why would I purposely clump ALL religious people in ONE GROUP: Ignorant ?

I wouldn't...I am addressing the IGNORANT relgious fundamentalists, not all of them.

As If I think ALL Gay/Bisexual people are good people.....Homosexual and Bisexuals like myself are also responsible, not only for the peer pressure that exists between themselves, but for the VAST amount of physical superficiality that exists in our own culture and in media.

Homosexual Men, beleive it or not, contribute a lot to the distorted body image that OTHER MEN AND women suffer....hey, i just dissed my own "cluster" 🙄

Relax Storm....you are taking this WAY too seriously.

Originally posted by docb77
Now, if you're talking about extremists... then ignore this. But a person can be very religious and also be educated and understanding of other people.

Extremists and religious people who ignore all other sources of knowledge other than thier religious text are who I am talking about.

However, I can see that this thread may be going too far, and If the Mods want to close it, I have no problem with that.

Originally posted by Storm
No. Atheists are not necessarily more better than theists.

The "more" was not necessary.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Storm, I find it funny how you too will often argue against religious fundamentalism but then get angry when myself or Alliance make threads or arguments which criticize religious extremism.

Because THAT is what I am addressing, and always intend to address. I am NOT targetting religion as a whole, nor am I targetting religious people in general...

This thread is DIRECTLY targetting the ignorant section of religious fundamentalists, not the TOTALITY of religious people.

You say you have doubts concerning my motives....how much clearer can the motive be in this thread ?

I am certainly not complimenting religious extremists, nor am i complimenting Christian Fundamentalism involved in Politics.

However, if you truly feel that this thread is an act of hostility, then I welcome you to Close it. You don't HAVE TO put up with it, if this thread truly offends you that much. Geez...

On a SIDE note...ofcourse Athiest are no better than Thiests. I also find it funny how a majority of serial killers happen to be Athiest....says a lot doesn't it ?

Knowing this, why would I purposely clump ALL religious people in ONE GROUP: Ignorant ?

I wouldn't...I am addressing the IGNORANT relgious fundamentalists, not all of them.

As If I think ALL Gay/Bisexual people are good people.....Homosexual and Bisexuals like myself are also responsible, not only for the peer pressure that exists between themselves, but for the VAST amount of physical superficiality that exists in our own culture and in media.

Homosexual Men, beleive it or not, contribute a lot to the distorted body image that OTHER MEN AND women suffer....hey, i just dissed my own "cluster" 🙄

Relax Storm....you are taking this WAY too seriously.

Whenever I see ad hominem arguments being used in a discussion, it is unlikely that anything productive will come out of it in the end. A person who can only make their case by attacking others probably doesn' t have much of case to begin with. I feel this thread was created in reaction to a few individuals posting here on KMC.

It’ s a riddle to me why you feel the need to bring up homosexuality and/or bisexuality into an argument whether it is relevant or not.

Originally posted by Storm
You are not criticizing religious fundamentalism itself, you are launching ad hominem arguments.

My intention was to attack religious fundamentalism, although my method in this thread was to poke fun at the majority of people who publically promote or represent religious fundamentalism. I can see where you find the message offensive, but do not accuse me of victimizing a certain group of people when the intent to do so is not present.

Originally posted by Storm
[BWhenever I see ad hominem arguments being used in a discussion, it is unlikely that anything productive will come out of it in the end. A person who can only make their case by attacking others probably doesn' t have much of case to begin with. I feel this thread was created in reaction to a few individuals posting here on KMC.[/B]

I understand your stance, but what would you define as productive in this situaton?

Do you mean productive as in me "realizing the error of my ways" in my opinion of fundamentalism or as in religious fundamentalist debators rethinking thier positions ?

I doubt EITHER will ever happen, and if that is what you desire as the goal, then I am sorry. However, you have to consider the fact that very little "productivity" comes out of ANY DEBATE on these forums...

Religious people still keep thier stances, while Athiests/Agnostics still retain theres...Check out the Abortion Thread and Homosexuality/Religion Thread, because I fail to see where ANY progress was made in a 400 page debate, where everyone's personal opinion is STILL the same.

Originally posted by Storm
[BIt’ s a riddle to me why you feel the need to bring up homosexuality and/or bisexuality into an argument whether it is relevant or not. [/B]

It was an example...an effort to show you that I do not only critisize Religious people, i critisize EVERYONE...even myself.

This just HAPPENS to be the religion forum, and i would find it irrelevant to critisize anyone in the event where it has nothing to do with religion.

well, everytime i see another JM post, it makes me want to watch squidbillies, so i see it.

Not to mention that growing up in colorado with some of the biggest ****ing retards on the face of the planet completely reinforces this.

It does surprise me how religious people think they're in touch with "god". I mean, if I was God, I'd want to talk the the very best of my creation. Not the very worst.

God doesn't care anything except creating and we are all part of that..

Originally posted by Storm
I seriously have my doubts concerning your motives, and I will be monitoring this thread closely.

However, the rest of Storm's post is completely accurate. Atheists are often "UR FAITH IS STOOPID EVOLUSHUN PROVE IT RONG RELIGISH OPPRESSORS."

Originally posted by Storm
No. Atheists are not necessarily more better than theists. That is not only naked bigotry, but is in fact an example of how atheists can fail to be rational and adopt just the sort of ridiculous beliefs which they find contemptible in others! By expressing these assumptions you communicate your prejudice. I won' t be surprised if this would be considered as an act of hostility, and be responded to accordingly.

I seriously have my doubts concerning your motives, and I will be monitoring this thread closely.

I don't think he was really attacking theis, I think he was attacking fundamentalism.

Even fundamentalist atheism or agnosticism is not productive.

Originally posted by FeceMan
You put too much faith in your fellow posters.

However, the rest of Storm's post is completely accurate. Atheists are often "UR FAITH IS STOOPID EVOLUSHUN PROVE IT RONG RELIGISH OPPRESSORS."

Athiests are not automatically better. However, crimes have not been done for the sake of "athiesm"...

Crimes and social injustices have been spawned out of religion, FOR RELIGION. I will admit, yes, Religion is ALSO responsible for many wondors. However, it is severely flawed, because so many people adapt religion as an excuse to justify thier own biases.

You cannot deny that. Those are the people I address in my argument.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Athiests are not automatically better. However, crimes have not been done for the sake of "athiesm"...

HAHAHAHA.

HA.

*Looks at China.*

Communism does not equal atheism.

Try LEARNING.

Originally posted by FeceMan
HAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHA.

HA.

*Looks at China.*

😆 Good one!

👇 at least atheists usually aren't as bigoted as theists.