Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Communism is an ideology. I don't think it gives excuse, because it doesn't need it - it is acceptable as an inevitable by product in the name of upholding the ideology.I believe religious violence is sexactly the same. It is not an excuse for violence, but its cause.
Ideology makes people do atrocities. Religious, political, or any other kind, IMHO.
At any rate - I believe bigoted, racist, homophobic and intolerant people would exist if no religion was present.
Assholness and religion do not necessarily correlate.
I think individual assholelike characteristics correlate with general assholness.
I agree that the violence and discrimination done by Communism and Religion are both one in the same. ✅
Yes, without religion, bigotted and hateful people would STILL exist...they would just have to find another public justification or shield for thier hatred.
Religion can very easily serve that purpose. All 3 mainstream monotheistic religions give more than enough ammunition for people to execute violence, hatred, or plain ol' bigotry...
Athiesm supplies no such means. Communism DOES, yes...but Athiesm ITSELF does not. There is NO REFERENCE for Athiesm by which a bad person publically justify or create propaganda that supports violence against any segment of people.
Religion, LIKE communism, gives you the means to do so....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You moron, I was [b]agreeing with you...I was attacking Communism 🙄 [/B]
Uhhhh???? I was directing that at people who always complain about no having opportunities when there are plenty of job openings. I know I quote you...but it wasn't directed entirely at you. No harm done.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Uhhhh???? I was directing that at people who always complain about no having opportunities when there are plenty of job openings. I know I quote you...but it wasn't directed entirely at you. No harm done.
Oh...sorry man 😆
I was actually referring to Communism though..under communism you don't get to choose your career path, and you are stuck making the same income for as long as the system exists.
The government, under communism, chooses both your career AND your income.
Kinda sucks
Originally posted by Alliance
No more than any other system of government.
Yeah right, which is so many countries got rid of it, and its only extant in 4 countries today.
Originally posted by Alliance
Since when did the Soviets have a true communist form of government?
1922-1991
It ended 'cause they finally realized how ****ed up it is.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Bull. The USSR was the epitome of communism.As is the PRC.
No, they're not. They were/are socialist dictatorships claiming to be communist, but actually have no relation to true communism at all.
For starters, if they operated under the system of true communism, there would be no leader, as everyone is equal and it's a system that gives power directly to the people.
Originally posted by Lana
No, they're not. They were/are socialist dictatorships claiming to be communist, but actually have no relation to true communism at all.For starters, if they operated under the system of true communism, there would be no leader, as everyone is equal and it's a system that gives power directly to the people.
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Originally posted by Lana
No, they're not. They were/are socialist dictatorships claiming to be communist, but actually have no relation to true communism at all.For starters, if they operated under the system of true communism, there would be no leader, as everyone is equal and it's a system that gives power directly to the people.
If you want to get technical....Marxism-Leninism is more appropiate for the USSR. 😉
Correction in my post......it should read the "earlier" stages of the USSR. After Lenin, Stalin, and Krushvev (sp?) the USSR later adopted a flux system of communism and capitalism under Gorbachev (sp?)
Originally posted by Lana
No, they're not. They were/are socialist dictatorships claiming to be communist, but actually have no relation to true communism at all.For starters, if they operated under the system of true communism, there would be no leader, as everyone is equal and it's a system that gives power directly to the people.
Communism = socialist dictatorship
Originally posted by Alliance
I dont recall social security or welfare under capitalism.
Originally posted by Lana
No country has EVER had true communism.
this is absolutely true.
If you want to see teh true benefits of a communist system that worked the way it was intended to work, then look no further than Star Trek. No money, a job and fulfillment for every citizen, everyone had a home and food to eat.
The USSR was not a true communist state. And the reason for that is the people who controlled the nation. It became little more than communism in name only. And more a fascist state.
which is the pit fall of the communist ideal. You have to rely on teh very people you philisophically aren't supposed to trust to run your country. Which is why socialism and fascism can work, but communism can not.