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Originally posted by FeceMan
HAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHA.

HA.

*Looks at China.*

Athiesm is not responsible for those crimes however. They were not done or JUSTIFIED by a lack of beleif in a God....

The Chinese dictator is a sadistic a$$hole, and does what he does to his people out of his own evil, not due to a lack of religion... ❌

The only difference between himself and people like Sadam Hussien are that one uses religion to justify his evil, while another doesn't waste his time trying to justify evil.

Religious extremists USE religion as a means to commit acts of violence. Athiests do not RELY on ATHIESM to commit thier violence.

Originally posted by Alliance
Communism does not equal atheism.

Try LEARNING.

Originally posted by Alliance
Communism does not equal atheism.

Try LEARNING.

But commies promote atheism.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
But commies promote atheism.

Athiesm does not encourage or justify violence. Religion has ✅

Originally posted by FeceMan
Try learning how the Chinese government enforces atheism and persecutes Christians.

I already know what the Chinese Government does, not ONLY to CHRISTIANS, but Buddhists and people of OTHER religions as well....

Communism and his own agendas are solely responsible for his crimes against Humanity. Even if he DID rule the country through religion, he'd STILL commit acts of violence.

The only difference would be that Religion would SUPPLY him support for his actions, while Athiesm cannot supply him with any "text" or "scripture" or actual reason to act violently.

Originally posted by Alliance
Communism does not equal atheism.

Try LEARNING.

In theory it does. 'Religion is the opium of the masses'.

Look into what happened to Russia under 'communism'. Going to church or practicing a religion was forbidden by law.

A lot of Russian Orthodox Churches, paintings, religios places and symbols were destroyed this way too.
This also meant distruction of a lot of christian art.

Anyway, Marx despised religion. Stalin did too.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The only difference would be that Religion would SUPPLY him support for his actions, while Athiesm cannot supply him with any "text" or "scripture" or actual reason to act violently.

They might not have holy book, but "stopping those evil Christians" sure seems to pop up often enough. And that belief is shared by some, but not all atheists--much like some Christians share the same beliefs but not all of them.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In theory it does. 'Religion is the opium of the masses'.

Look into what happened to Russia under 'communism'. Going to church or practicing a religion was forbidden by law.

A lot of Russian Orthodox Churches, paintings, religios places and symbols were destroyed this way too.
This also meant distruction of a lot of christian art.

Anyway, Marx despised religion. Stalin did too.

Very valid points indeed ✅

Communism is the excuse though (or rather justification)..not Athiesm.

Athiesm supplies no ideals, no text, no rules to justify this kind of atrocity done against Christians and other Religious organizations.

Communism, as a system, DOES give justification for this kind of violence, the same way the Bible's literal scriptures give justification for violence against non-beleivers, homos, women, pagans, and people who break the commandments.

Communism is ****ed up.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Sure it can.

They might not have holy book, but "stopping those evil Christians" sure seems to pop up often enough. And that belief is shared by some, but not all atheists--much like some Christians share the same beliefs but not all of them.

"Stopping those evil Christians" can be the same mentality shared by Muslims or people of another religion.

Atheism is NOT an idealogy like religion is...Athiesm is a LACK OF BELIEF in a religion or diety....it does not give direct justification for violence against people for any reason.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
"Stopping those evil Christians" can be the same mentality shared by Muslims or people of another religion.

Atheism is NOT an idealogy like religion is...Athiesm is a LACK OF BELIEF in a religion or diety....it does not give direct justification for violence against people for any reason.

[Well, not anymore.]

Originally posted by FeceMan
Neither does Christianity.

[Well, not anymore.]

No man shall layeth with another man as he would layeth with a woman; for that is detestable and punishable by death

God then told them to do the same to King Og of Bashan. The Israelites therefore "slaughtered them and left no survivor."[15] The book of Psalms cites these massacres as proof that the Lord's "love endures for ever."[16]

In obedience to the Lord's commands, Joshua's army did likewise to many other cities. The Israelites "put every living soul to the sword until they had destroyed every one; they did not leave alive any one that drew breath."[23]

Ezekiel claims that God appointed men to punish Jerusalem for its "abominations." The Lord told them to "kill without pity; spare no one. Kill and destroy them all, old men and young, girls, little children and women. . . .

In describing the end times, the book of Revelation reports that after an angel blows a trumpet, fire mingled with blood will be cast upon the earth. This will result in a third of the earth being burnt.

God carries his ruthlessness to infinite extremes in the New Testament by inflicting eternal torture on people. Being the firebug that he is, his preferred method of torture is to burn them.

The book of Matthew tells us that when Jesus returns to earth, he will send his angels to gather people and cast them into a furnace of fire, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.[80] And he will order people to "go from my sight to the eternal fire that is ready for the devil and his angels."[81]

The book of Revelation describes this everlasting inferno as a place where people are tortured forever.[82] There, the "smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever, and there will be no respite day or night. . . ."[83]

The book of Jude claims that Sodom, Gomorrah, and the neighboring towns are already being punished in eternal fire as an example for all to see.[84]

These horrible punishments are illustrated in Jesus' story of the beggar Lazarus, who went to heaven, and the rich man who was consigned to Hades. Jesus described the rich man as suffering torment in the flames.[85] Elsewhere, he indicated the same fate will befall everyone who does not accept his message.[86] This will include the vast majority of humankind.[87]

Jesus also spoke approvingly of torture in one of his parables. The story involves a king who forgave a servant's debt, but who later found the same servant treating harshly a debtor of the servant. The king became angry with the servant and "condemned the man to torture until he should pay the debt in full." Jesus explained that God will do the same to people who do not forgive others.[88]

If your God practices or ever practiced violence, it gives you enough motive, reason, and justification to enact violence yourself.

Athiesm does not supply any concrete means to do so...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Even if he DID rule the country through religion, he'd STILL commit acts of violence.

I think you just supported the other side of the argument there. Just like he'd still be an @#$% with religion. Religious loons would still be loons without it. They'd just be looney about something else.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Communism is ****ed up.

No more than any other system of government.

Originally posted by docb77
I think you just supported the other side of the argument there. Just like he'd still be an @#$% with religion. Religious loons would still be loons without it. They'd just be looney about something else.

MOST DEFINATELY ! There is NO DOUBT about that !

However, Religion gives justification for violence, while Athiesm does not...

Athiesm supplies no ideals, no rules, no text, NOTHING...Athiesm is a BLANK SLATE...

Religion supplies you with all the reasons, text, ideals, and "logic" you need to support and validate someone's lust for violence.

Originally posted by Alliance
No more than any other system of government.

Really? I don't recall getting in line for food, clothes, and a pair of shoes like the Russians had to do it back in the good ole USSR.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Really? I don't recall getting in line for food, clothes, and a pair of shoes like the Russians had to do it back in the good ole USSR.

I also don't recall having my choice in career taking away...or being stuck to making ONE type of income for the rest of my life...

I dont recall social security or welfare under capitalism.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I also don't recall having my choice in career taking away...or being stuck to making ONE type of income for the rest of my life...

Oh well, that's pathetic because no one is doing that to you. The opportunities are there. You don't take advantage of them it's your own fault. Don't blame anyone.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Very valid points indeed ✅

Communism is the excuse though (or rather justification)..not Athiesm.

Athiesm supplies no ideals, no text, no rules to justify this kind of atrocity done against Christians and other Religious organizations.

Communism, as a system, DOES give justification for this kind of violence, the same way the Bible's literal scriptures give justification for violence against non-beleivers, homos, women, pagans, and people who break the commandments.

Communism is an ideology. I don't think it gives excuse, because it doesn't need it - it is acceptable as an inevitable by product in the name of upholding the ideology.

I believe religious violence is sexactly the same. It is not an excuse for violence, but its cause.

Ideology makes people do atrocities. Religious, political, or any other kind, IMHO.

At any rate - I believe bigoted, racist, homophobic and intolerant people would exist if no religion was present.

Assholness and religion do not necessarily correlate.
I think individual assholelike characteristics correlate with general assholness.