Wanda, with full control over the Chaos wave runs the gauntlet.

Started by Thanos_THOTU8 pages

Wanda, with full control over the Chaos wave runs the gauntlet.

The chaos wave have become quite popular, so I wonder:

Here Wanda, have full control over the power of the Chaos wave, how far will that take her?

1. Franklin Richards -Galactus (Alternate future)
2. Dark Phoenix
3. Eternity
4. Phoenix of the White Crown
5. Evil Molecule man
6. Abraxas with the Ultimate Nullifier
7. Magus with the Infinity Gauntlet
8. Living Tribunal
9. Thanos with the Heart of the Universe
10. Pre-retcon Beyonder

If you dissagree with the order of the list you can change it.

Wanda clears it. Only TOAA can stop her from all I have read in this forum, which to me is just plain ludicrous. 🙁

Realistically Wanda could NEVER have full control over the wave, her body could never handle it.

But if we are to assume that she has full control, then id say she stops at #8, if she made it past that she WILL NOT get past Thanos /w/ THOTU, though he isnt as wise as TOAA Thanos did possess his power. Wanda will not be making it past that, and we all know how much i like wanda 😉

Originally posted by Galan777
Realistically Wanda could NEVER have [B]full control over the wave, her body could never handle it.

But if we are to assume that she has full control, then id say she stops at #8, if she made it past that she WILL NOT get past Thanos /w/ THOTU, though he isnt as wise as TOAA Thanos did possess his power. Wanda will not be making it past that, and we all know how much i like wanda 😉 [/B]


Thanos would with time get the omnisience, you saw that it took him time to adjust to the power.
(First a celestial . . . than all the others . . . and than the abstracts)

I think classic Beyonder would equal him:
Reason:
Beyonder did not have the power of "millions of Multi-verses"
He had the power of the "rest of the Multi-verse" (All the power that existed) millions of times combinded.

Why such a limited amount? -- Molecule man had a fraction (appearently less than a millionth peice) of Beyonder's power.
And he was present in the Multi-verse.

Power of the writers.

So IMO: PR Beyonder = TOAA = Thanos THOTU

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However I do Belive she would only get to Abraxas:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen462page18hk7.jpg

"And since your idiot Sibling smashed the Nullifier, we can't exice the infected `brane and cauterize the wound."

This means that the Nullfiier would be able to remake everything the wave unmakes.
In other words neutralize the effect.
Than it's down to: Abraxas vs strained Wanda . . .

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
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However I do Belive she would only get to Abraxas:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen462page18hk7.jpg

"And since your idiot Sibling smashed the Nullifier, we can't exice the infected `brane and cauterize the wound."

This means that the Nullfiier would be able to remake everything the wave unmakes.
In other words neutralize the effect.
Than it's down to: Abraxas vs strained Wanda . . .

Well all the Nullifier has been SHOWN on pannel doing is destroying and remaking the multiverse, and that is how i based my oppinion. Wanda /w/ full control of the wave, we are talking erasing and altering EVERYTHING, not just the multiverse

Originally posted by Galan777
Well all the Nullifier has been [B]SHOWN on pannel doing is destroying and remaking the multiverse, and that is how i based my oppinion. Wanda /w/ full control of the wave, we are talking erasing and altering EVERYTHING, not just the multiverse [/B]

The Multiverse?
"Multi"-"verse": "More than one" "reality"
"Omni"-"verse": "Every" "reality"

All/The rest- of the Multi-verse: All realities as well.

Multi-verse is a group: from 2 to infinity
Omni-verse is every: allways infinity.

I am not sure if the Nullifier could destroy "all of the Multi-verse"/Omniverse.
But they did say that it could neutralize the chaos wave.

I put the Chaos wave, equal to [World funnest] Mxyztplk.
Both could (or did) screw up all realities.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The Multiverse?
"Multi"-"verse": "More than one" "reality"
"Omni"-"verse": "Every" "reality"

All/The rest- of the Multi-verse: All realities as well.

Multi-verse is a group: from 2 to infinity
Omni-verse is every: allways infinity.

I am not sure if the Nullifier could destroy "all of the Multi-verse"/Omniverse.
But they did say that it could neutralize the chaos wave.

I put the Chaos wave, equal to [World funnest] Mxyztplk.
Both could (or did) screw up all realities.

Well Mxy destroyed and altered reality far more then Wanda IMO

I say to 9 and we are putting Beyonder past God now?

id say Thanos /w/ THOTU and Beyonder are about equal

Well The name "The One Above All" would seem to denote that no one is eqaul. In essence it's God.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Well The name "The One Above All" would seem to denote that no one is eqaul. In essence it's God.
I understand that, but do we really know if Thanos had ALL of TOAA's power? Because he certainly didnt have TOAA's omniscents. Also Beyonder had the power of the writers, so:

Beyonder=Thanos /w/ THOTU IMO

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Well The name "The One Above All" would seem to denote that no one is eqaul. In essence it's God.

Pre-retconned Beyonder - Non-canon Beyonder.
I belive the "House of M" was retconned as well.
. . . However, the point was:
Stan Lee (80´s interview) himself stated:
SL: The Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics.

And who is the writer? -- TOAA.

Thanos had the power and essance of the Supreme being, TOAA.
Which in this case was Jim Starlin, who granted Thanos the power of the wrtiers.

These three have been at writer level, but only one remains:
TOAA
Therefore he techniqually don't have any equal.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I belive the "House of M" was retconned as well.
Nah, HOM was never retconned

I agree with you there, I'm just saying I don't think they are equal to TOAA.

Shouldn't Living Tribunal be #10?

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Shouldn't Living Tribunal be #10?
nah beyonder/Thanos /w/ THOTU are above him 😉

Originally posted by Galan777
Realistically Wanda could NEVER have [B]full control over the wave, her body could never handle it. [/B]

Where did you read that?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Where did you read that?
That was nothing by my assumption, not fact by any means...... I just dont see her being able to control it to the fullest, because she never had anywhere near full control during HOM. Thats just my oppinion though.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Thanos would with time get the omnisience, you saw that it took him time to adjust to the power.

Thanos never showed any sign of getting the TOAA's Authority.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I think classic Beyonder would equal him:
Reason:
Beyonder did not have the power of "millions of Multi-verses"
He had the power of the "rest of the Multi-verse" (All the power that existed) millions of times combinded.

Beyonder had all the power that existed between 1984 and 86, after that the New Universe was introduced in November 1986, and Beyonder went from everything Outside the Multi-verse, to ONE Infinite Universe.

Beyonder had the Power of ONE Multi-verse, Millions of times over.

TOAA has increased his once ONE Multi-verse to an INFINITE number of Multi-verses, that's MORE than Millions, MORE than Billions, MORE than any number you can think of.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Why such a limited amount? -- Molecule man had a fraction (appearently less than a millionth peice) of Beyonder's power.
And he was present in the Multi-verse.

Your speculatting and without evidence, the evidence points to a Molucule Man that was quite close to the Beyonder in Power.

When Beyonder and Molecule Man battled, Molecule Man almost had a chance of winning

Beyonder speaking, "You had a CHANCE, it's Unbelievable that you did"

Molecule Man lost, but that doesn't sound to me like "less than a millionth piece"

"a millionth piece" would have been BLINKED away.

Also, When Beyonder releases ALL of his Power that should have ERASED the ONE Marvel Multi-verse:

Reed knows if they kill the Beyonder baby, it will wipe out the Multi-verse.

"The Power contained in that Device is the Power of the Beyonder"

"If that Energy is Loosed, it could DESTROY EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE in One blinding white flash"

Molecule Man kills the helpless baby Beyonder turned himself into

The Beyonder's Energy is released

"The child screams...and the END begins"

Just like Reed said "one blinding white flash"

But somehow they survive

How?

Molecule Man SAVED the Multi-verse

So AGAIN, Now Molecule Man was able to DIVERT the Beyonder's Power (which should have incinerated Everything) into the Portal that lead to the Beyond Realm.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Power of the writers.

This means nothing in a versus Thread.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
However I do Belive she would only get to Abraxas:

"And since your idiot Sibling smashed the Nullifier, we can't exice the infected `brane and cauterize the wound."

This means that the Nullfiier would be able to remake everything the wave unmakes.
In other words neutralize the effect.. . .

"In other words"?

You mean in YOUR Words.

The Celestial Nullifier was NOT going to stop the Wave.

The Celestial Nullifier was going to cut off it's PATH of destruction, that's all, by separating it's next Meal (BRANE 616) from the Omni-verse.

And if Wanda has FULL control of the Wave, UNLIKE the mindless Chaos Wave of HOM, ain't no one going to stop her.

If the Power of the Beyonders was not enough, and a "TINY Bit of their Power" can create Cosmic Containment Units that can become Universes, Create Universes and beings that can collapse a Multiverse.

"And this is just the beginning"

"ALL the dimensions there are CRASHED into One"

It already had Obliterated a bunch of Universes and it was just getting started