Wanda, with full control over the Chaos wave runs the gauntlet.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The chaos wave was nothing but the spillover of the reality warp into other dimensions. Wandas tamperings accidentally caused a rip in the dimensional barrier and there was a spillover. The chaos wave was not controlled or directly generated by Wanda. It was also easily stopped by an insignificant mutant. Thats the crux of the matter. The chaos wave never defeated anything head on it attacked the dimensional wall of an alternate reality causing it to collapse. Does that make it more powerful than any and all forces within said reality? Again i say if Jubille collapsed a building on the X-men while they were in side unaware does that make her greater than the X-men? Could she defeat them head on if they were aware and faced her? When the heroes were made aware of the wave, its progress was halted by the insignificant mutant Meggan and the problem was ended by merely sealing the breach in 616.

stfu2

Originally posted by bigbran
Isn't that like LT bowing down to Phoenix?😖hifty:

I'm really hoping you have those scans, of the ultimate fallacy committed by you know who.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Forget the hostility son, this is a comic forum. I actually laugh at how worked up you people get sometimes 🙂

Instead of insulting why dont you address the point ive brought up otherwise call it a day ✅

Please, you ignore anything you don't like and then bring it up again later thinking people forgot.

Youve been proven wrong time and time again and your rep on here is smashed beyond repair.

Originally posted by Mr Master
stfu2

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where did that happen? What proof have you of that? She warped reality for sure just as stated, but the only on panel statement referring to the extent of this warp was by Roma and she said it was "GLOBAL"

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

AGAIN

AGAIN

AGAIN

GO READ COMICS my child.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I guess we can throw opinions around until we see this:

The Marvel Multi-verses are INFINITE.

NOT 2 or 3 or a billion billion Universes, INFINITE number of Universes.

And the Omni-verse is an INFINITE number of Multi-verses.

Hate to interject, but something is bothering me with this picture. Captain Universe says that our universe was thought to be boundless, but it does have a beginning and an end. But in the very next sentence, he refers to it as being boundless again. Which is it?

Originally posted by Mr Master
"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)

"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takes its place"

"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"

AGAIN

AGAIN

AGAIN

GO READ COMICS my child.

I take it thats from Exiles? Could you tell me what issue so that i could read it for myself as opposed to being shown carefully selected scans.

On top of that the omniversal guardian states that Roma warped Earth 616, that the extent was just global. So a comment about how Wanda is remaking 616 again could easily be interpreted in line with that.

Either way, who is the more reputable source, Roma or an Exile?

Originally posted by Mr Master
stfu2

So once again you've come up against a point you cant counter and instead of admitting it you mock the points and carry on spouting your rubbish regardless.

Please address the points.

The chaos wave as shown is conclusively just spillover of one reality into another, it was neither generated or controlled by Wanda.

Even if it was under her control the fact that it was so easily stopped by insignificant powers illustrates the fact that youre overrating it. 🙂

He did address the points but you ignore it and twist it.

Do you not get that your rep is ruined on her? David Richards would have a better chance of gettting people to listen then you.

You are everything I find objectionable about Phoenic Fanboys.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
He did address the points but you ignore it and twist it.

Do you not get that your rep is ruined on her? David Richards would have a better chance of gettting people to listen then you.

You are everything I find objectionable about Phoenic Fanboys.

What exactly have i twisted?

I have an on panel statement from a reputable source stating and depicting my point (Roma with her global alteration comment)

On top of that i have shown that the wave was neither generated by or controlled by Wanda.

Plus ive shown that even if it was the wave can quite easily be stopped by insignificant powers.

😄

And Mr M has posted scan countering yours, but as a true fanboy you don't listen at all.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ignorance. The only people who try and insult me are newcomers to the forums who have missed past debates.

I am only bringing up, things that never happened.

You say Wanda never destroyed anything too high.
I say kind of like how LT was bowing to Pheonix.
I'm sure you remember what I'm talking about here.

well the thing did say wanda with full control of the chaos wave...thats assuming that at this juncture it is something tangible, and mutable that she could weild at will...do i think she is slightly overrated...a little, especially seeing as how she did all this unknowingly, but still Roma said that if allowed to continue it would end existence as we know it

the crux of the matter is, if she has(acknowledgable) control of the wave she would be quite a force to be reckoned with, cuz at this point she would be a living manifestation of chaos...affecting causality at infinately more powerful levels than she's normally capable of..now if you're an old school comic fan like me you'll know that Wanda didnt really have magical powers per se, she just altered probablity then she learned to use chaos magic to amp those abilties to insane levels, but with the full backing of the chaos wave she would be practically unstoppable.

this is gonna draw the ire of fanboys aplenty, but dare i say since the PF is loosely an agent of order, a full chaos wave powered wanda would be the opposite side of the same coin as jean grey at her fullest.. that's why i believe that any incarnation of the phoenix could only serve to stalemate her.....that being said.. exept for those who are equal to the PF or above "No more whoever is standing in front of me!!!"

Originally posted by manjaro
well the thing did say wanda with full control of the chaos wave...thats assuming that at this juncture it is something tangible, and mutable that she could weild at will...do i think she is slightly overrated...a little, especially seeing as how she did all this unknowingly, but still Roma said that if allowed to continue it would end existence as we know it

the crux of the matter is, if she has(acknowledgable) control of the wave she would be quite a force to be reckoned with, cuz at this point she would be a living manifestation of chaos...affecting causality at infinately more powerful levels than she's normally capable of..now if you're an old school comic fan like me you'll know that Wanda didnt really have magical powers per se, she just altered probablity then she learned to use chaos magic to amp those abilties to insane levels, but with the full backing of the chaos wave she would be practically unstoppable.

this is gonna draw the ire of fanboys aplenty, but dare i say since the PF is loosely an agent of order, a full chaos wave powered wanda would be the opposite side of the same coin as jean grey at her fullest.. that's why i believe that any incarnation of the phoenix could only serve to stalemate her.....that being said.. exept for those who are equal to the PF or above "No more whoever is standing in front of me!!!"

The chaos wave was only a threat if left unchecked, When it was tackled head on a significant power wasnt required. In the same way a fire if left unchecked can do millions of pounds of damage over many blocks, but tackle it headon and it wont make it past the frying pan.

On top of that Wanda is a reality manipulator, her powesr are dependent on reality. Take her outside of it and shes powerless. Shes a manipulator not a creator.

oh and those scans are from when beak wanted to go back home, and 616 was being scanned from that crystal palace place, so its quite reputable not that im trying to jump into the fray of unending personal insults😄 and also the other scans with the bright lights IIRC that only happened once,(after she said no more mutants) and each panel was just different ppl experiencing it, in thier own frame of reference but it wasnt something that was done over and over

im all for heated and open debates but we cant manipulate scans to suit or arguments

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Hate to interject, but something is bothering me with this picture. Captain Universe says that our universe was thought to be boundless, but it does have a beginning and an end. But in the very next sentence, he refers to it as being boundless again. Which is it?

He's talking about the PRIOR Universe, the One where Galactus was saved by the Sentience of the Universe (Eternity).

Originally posted by bigbran
Is this adressed to me?

I am only bringing up, things that never happened.

You say Wanda never destroyed anything too high.
I say kind of like how LT was bowing to Pheonix.
I'm sure you remember what I'm talking about here.

Bran, bring out the Scans and chop this tree of bull shit down please.

For all of us, do it now.

He's trying to pull the same tricks now, show him the error of his ways.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Bran, bring out the Scans and chop this tree of bull shit down please.

For all of us, do it now.

He's trying to pull the same tricks now, show him the error of his ways.

Originally posted by manjaro
and each panel was just different ppl experiencing it, in thier own frame of reference but it wasnt something that was done over and over

im all for heated and open debates but we cant manipulate scans to suit or arguments

"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... AGAIN"

Just to clear that up.

Originally posted by manjaro
oh and those scans are from when beak wanted to go back home, and 616 was being scanned from that crystal palace place, so its quite reputable not that im trying to jump into the fray of unending personal insults😄 and also the other scans with the bright lights IIRC that only happened once,(after she said no more mutants) and each panel was just different ppl experiencing it, in thier own frame of reference but it wasnt something that was done over and over

im all for heated and open debates but we cant manipulate scans to suit or arguments

Thank u for your input Manjaro, im glad you've highlighted MrMasters hypocrisy when it comes to scans.

I think i'll add this page to my favorites 😄

Your point about the reality warp comment doesnt change the fact that saying 616 is being warped(given that Roma has previously defined the extent of Wandas warp as restricted to Earth 616) can be interpreted in line with Romas comments