Plo Koon runs the gauntlet!

darthsith, you truly miss the point. Here's what's considered "canonical" from games: background stories, places, the storyline, characters, cutscenes - mainly things involving the story. Stuff like how a character moves, how a lightsaber strikes, what level you reach, if you can choose what powers (a la KOTOR and JA), etc. are not part of the story, and thus are not canonical.

You are arguing from your POV that Plo Koon uses Djem So because it "seems like it" (not that you've even played the game, but are going by what you hear a.k.a. hearsay). There's no possible way to judge exactly what a character's form by a video game least of all. So, again - using your logic - it is fact Exar uses Djem So. Why do you constantly avoid my post on this? It looks like Exar uses Djem So, it looks like Vodo uses Soresu, is that fact as well?

Let's say another plays Jedi Power Battles, I'll go out on a limb and say that it mocks Vaapad instead, but twisted to fit Plo Koon's speed. So, it seems your little "argument" about looking like Djem So has much doubt on it. This would allows go along with what I said about people using their forms differently.

darthsith, face the facts. You're wrong. Period. Plo Koon doesn't use Djem So as fact. Period. You cannot use it as an argument since you have none backing it up. Period.

Originally posted by kamikz
Where exactly is it said that Plo was better than Qui-Gon in his prime? Qui-Gon by TPM was said to be on par with Mace in sword ability, at least according to Obi-Wan. Does this put Plo far above Mace in sword ability?

Plo was the hero of the Stark Hyperspace Wars. Qui-Gon was present in that battle, yet Plo was the hero, not Qui-Gon. At the time, Qui-Gon was 49 eyars old so he was likely in or about in his prime. Yes, Plo might be stronger than Mace as a Jedi Knight or early Jedi Master (when did Mace ebcome a Master, anyways?). I'd guessing by TPM Mace is ahead of Plo, though.

Let's say another plays Jedi Power Battles, I'll go out on a limb and say that it mocks Vaapad instead, but twisted to fit Plo Koon's speed.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Wrong. Only Depa, Mace and Sora ever learned Vaapad. And it resembles no otehr form.

Juyo is what I originally meant rather (as that was my previous point). And darthsith, you haven't even played the game, WTF are you talking about?

Originally posted by darthsith19
Plo was the hero of the Stark Hyperspace Wars. Qui-Gon was present in that battle, yet Plo was the hero, not Qui-Gon. At the time, Qui-Gon was 49 eyars old so he was likely in or about in his prime. Yes, Plo might be stronger than Mace as a Jedi Knight or early Jedi Master (when did Mace ebcome a Master, anyways?). I'd guessing by TPM Mace is ahead of Plo, though.

Wrong. Only Depa, Mace and Sora ever learned Vaapad. And it resembles no otehr form.

Sorry, but I don't see how that makes him better than Qui-Gon. If he was the hero, sure, but he might have earned that through extraordinary courage, done special missions or something like that. Anakin was the hero of the clone wars, and Mace was in that too, doubt he is better than Mace, same with Yoda.

Originally posted by kamikz
Sorry, but I don't see how that makes him better than Qui-Gon. If he was the hero, sure, but he might have earned that through extraordinary courage, done special missions or something like that. Anakin was the hero of the clone wars, and Mace was in that too, doubt he is better than Mace, same with Yoda.

Him being the "Hero" of the battle could be for any number of reasons. Maybe he had the opportunity to do something heroic that Qui Gon did not. All other material would make it look like Qui Gon is better. (Best swordsman Obi had ever seen, on par with Windu, remarkable focus/trance in combat etc).

Anyway, about the lightsaber forms, I'm with you DS. It looks like something that may be Form V (by accident, but, so what?), so it must be. Another thing, Revan sucks at lightsaber combat, he can only attack once every three seconds from a very select few basic attacks. He is way over rated. I mean, we all see how his style of combat is portrayed in KOTOR.

Thank you for agreeing with me about Plo using form 5. 🙂

Plo led the battle, it was he who led the others to victory after the death of Tyvokka. Yes, Qui-Gon's saber skills . When does Kenobi say Qui-Gon's the best swordsman he's ever seen?

There, Plo led the battle, he could have had tremendous leadership, or he did something heroic or similair. Being a hero doesn't mean he is better than them, a hero is someone who is brave, often risking his life for others, not necessarily the best combatent.

He says it in TPM novelisation, and even remarks he is "on par" with Master Windu.

Originally posted by kamikz
There, Plo led the battle, he could have had tremendous leadership, or he did something heroic or similair. Being a hero doesn't mean he is better than them, a hero is someone who is brave, often risking his life for others, not necessarily the best combatent.

He says it in TPM novelisation, and even remarks he is "on par" with Master Windu.

But how? The only argument seems to be that he fought in the war, nothing else. This does not put him on par with Qui-Gon and certainley not above. I know abscense of proof is not proof of abscense, but we are talking about Qui-Gon, one of the best swordsmen the order had ever seen, vs Plo, who I haven't seen a single special comment on really except for being a war hero.

Well then, we have nothing on Plo Koon except comic books, where he only appears rarely. I have to go with the video games to A CERTAIN extent. In addition, Maul admired him. Maul's a very martial guy, if he apparently admired him, then he must have admired his swordsmenship since Maul despises everything, especially Jedi.

Maul admired Plo? Where is that? Weird. 😛

😂

Yeah, he actually does, he seems to verbally felate him like constantly.

Really? When? I find that quite funny 😂

He admired him as a warrior, as a martial artist (Teras Kasi master) and a fine practitioner of Schien.

So.... where did he find out about Plo Koon?

Well jedi weren't exactly unknowns, he most probably heard of his exploits in the Stark Hyperspace War, or from Palpatine.

Cool, but which comic was this?