Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Believe me Sexy, even if you may be (i dont think so still but if) better than me, I doubt you can beat Kadesh. Even I'm not sure if I can take him on, but I have confidence in my debating skills, as I have greatly improved since I joined this forum.
I've seen you and Kadesh debate. I can be mentally retarded and still out debate you.
Originally posted by Kas'Im
I'd say it would be, imho:A1. Ushgaruk.
A2. Borbarad.
A3. Swirly Girl.
A4. Generic Hero.
A5. Escape81.B1. Motoko Sama.
B2. Lightsnake.
B3. Darth Glentract.
B4. ((The_Anomaly)).
B5. Kamikz.C1. Deception.
C2. Great Vengance.
C3. ACStyles.
C4. Darth Sexy.
C5. Deus Veneficus.D1. Medvock.
D2. Captain Rex.
D3. Darth Frobo.
D4. Himokun.
D5. Zephiel 8.E1. Spartan 2.
E2. Darth Sith.
E3. Rampant Ox.
E4. Jolly Jim.
E5. Darth Subject.
Not including myself, that's the current list. Don't know where I'd rank myself.
Level A (The Top Ten Finest)
1.) Ushagarak
2.) Escape81
3.) Janus
4.) Advent
5.) Nai Fohl
6.) Generic Hero
7.) IKC
8.) Illustrious
9.) Swirly Girl
10.) Fishy
Level B (The Top 10-20 Finest)
1.) Lightsnake
2.) Sorgo
3.) Darth Glentract
4.) Prodigal Knight/Kadesh/Kas'Im
5.) Prodigal Knight/Kadesh/Kas'Im
6.) Prodigal Knight/Kadesh/Kas'Im
7.) Faunus/Darthsith19
8.) Faunus/Darthsith19
9.) Subjekt
10.) Kamikz
Level C (The Top 20-30 Finest)
1.) Adas
2.) Darth Sexy
3.) Rampant Ox
4.) The_Anomaly
5.) Zephiel 7
6.) Council #13
7.) Captain REX
8.) Jollyjim
9.) Great Vengeance
10.) Darth Sexist
Level D (31-..)
1.) Sparten2
2.) Deception
3.) Great Vengeance
4.) Medvock
5.) ACStyles
..... More but here's the Top Thirty
How so Sexy? I am definately on par with Darthsith19 as we have debated many times before and he's never technically beaten me. I have never really beaten him, however I did defeat the arguments of him and Sexist (your master lol) in the ESB Luke vs. Qui-Gon thread where I faced against three other people and still I won.
As for you Sexy, I guess I can put you on par with Faunus and DS, but to say you're "above and beyond" Kadesh and I is totally ridiculous as in real life, I would oust you pretty badly. It's just my SW knowledge isn't that great enough and I don't have much time to give arguments like what escape does.
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
How so Sexy? I am definately on par with Darthsith19 as we have debated many times before and he's never technically beaten me. I have never really beaten him, however I did defeat the arguments of him and Sexist (your master lol) in the ESB Luke vs. Qui-Gon thread where I faced against three other people and still I won.As for you Sexy, I guess I can put you on par with Faunus and DS, but to say you're "above and beyond" Kadesh and I is totally ridiculous as in real life, I would oust you pretty badly. It's just my SW knowledge isn't that great enough and I don't have much time to give arguments like what escape does.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this statement.
I appreciate the merits of confidence, lol. But in all seriousness, I'd say that Faunus, Motoko Sama, and Nai are among the best on KMC (even in its past). Illustrious and Janus are good, and they possess intense knowledge and ability (as much as the top three), but - having debated with them more than anyone on this thread, lol - I can safely say that they are completely narrowminded.
They also let bias dictate their actions. Janus = Dooku > Sidious, and Illustrious = Ragnos owns everybody and their mother.
- Ushgarak rarely debates, being a moderator. But, I agree, when he does - he argues in terms of canon. He doesn't let any personal bias interfere, and he enforces canon to its highest degree.
- Janus and Illustrious are some of the most knowledgeable people/debators you'll ever come across. They know a crapload more than 80% of the KMC population (including myself), but they are outrageously aggressive (even moreso than I was for this "social experiment"😉 and are completely narrowminded.
- Advent/Motoko Sama (aside from being my wife - j/k) is aggressive, but not needlessly so. She's backed me up plenty of times, and I her. We proved that Anakin > Dooku (in terms of saber abilities), and she also doesn't let bias dictate her actions.
- Nai's one of the very best, like Advent, and I can safely say this, though he and I have a record of disagreeing on 99% of most cases. He likes to function as "the devil's advocate" (self admitted), but he also argues with everything he's got. And, excuse his occasional grammatical errors, as his native language is German.
- IKC is like Janus and Illustrious. He knows what the hell he's talking about. But he's probably the most aggressive debator, and can be outrageously cruel to people who disagrees with him.
- Generic Hero is someone whom I'd rank on par with Motoko and Nai.
- Faunus doesn't let bias dictate him, and he's pretty easy-going. On par with Motoko, Nai, and Generic.
- Glentract. Ehh... he's a math whiz, but uses outrageous algorithims to try to calculate the amount of destruction major Force attacks and stuff. He is also bound by bias.
- Deception = the supreme fan of Ancient Sith.
- Swirly Girl and Sorgo also know their crap (a hell of a lot more than I do), but they are also known for their aggressive attitude (though Sorgo seems to have calmed down) - and I haven't been in touch with Swirly Girl for a while. She seems to be clinically insane, though. 😖
The Top Four Bestestests Evar!
1.) Advent.
2.) Motoko Sama.
3.) Major Motoko.
4.) Motoko Kusanagi.
I'm the best ev4r!
(Yeah, right.)
AcStyles, however, has shown a lot more skillz than half the debaters on here right now. Rating debaters is pretty asinine, though. Everyone sucks at debating!
And Escape, WTF! "aside from being my wife - j/k"? Is that how you treat our vows? As a joke? 😛
Level A (The Top Ten Finest)
1.) Ushagarak
2.) Escape81
3.) Nai Fohl
4.) Advent
5.) Janus
6.) Generic Hero
7.) IKC
8.) Illustrious
9.) Swirly Girl
10.) Faunus
Level B (The Top 10-20 Finest)
1.) Lightsnake
2.) Sorgo
3.) Darth Glentract
4.) Fishy
5.) Kadesh
6.) Kas'Im/Prodigal Knight
7.) Kas'Im/Prodigal Knight
8.) Subjekt/Darthsith19/Darth Sexy
9.) Subjekt/Darthsith19/ Darth Sexy
10.) Subjekt/Darthsith19/Darth Sexy
Level C (The Top 20-30 Finest)
1.) Adas (banned) --> ACStyles (he's growing)
2.) Kamikz
3.) Deception
4.) Rampant Ox
5.) The_Anomaly
6.) Zephiel7
7.) Council #12
8.) Jollyjim
9.) Great Vengeance
10.) Darth Sexist