Maul, Dooku, Vader vs Sidious

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
Besides give me proof that GL worked on DE

I gave you a real quote from a valid source (the special editions)

And i don't want no Wiki shit either!! where is he quoted to have said that he considers DE pretty close to a sequel trilolgy?

I want PROOF not your pompous assertions that ur right and i'm wrong

1) When did we ever say that Lucas "worked on" DE?

2) You accuse "us" of being pompous? I'm sorry, weren't you the guy who just came out of the blue and declared that DE isn't canon and can't be used to cite Palpatine's powers?

That is arrogance.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
.. DE IS canon considering Lucas helped out with it.

ahem

i'm using the Lucas Quote as evidence that DE is not canon because (for the last time sigh) Anakin DESTROYED the Sith (Sidious) so he's dead! he can't retain his identity like obi or Anakin

So prove me wrong with real evidence and i will concede

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
ahem

i'm using the Lucas Quote as evidence that DE is not canon because (for the last time sigh) Anakin DESTROYED the Sith (Sidious) so he's dead! he can't retain his identity like obi or Anakin

So prove me wrong with real evidence and i will concede

I said it, not Escape. Lightsnake told me about it and I believe he had some sources for me. Either way as Escape said, GL Loved it. He didn't dismiss it, and since his opinion=fact in the SW universe, I believe you're quite wrong. We don't HAVE to prove you wrong with ANYTHING. you CLAIM that DE is NON CANON, so YOU prove that it's NON CANON...

Escape said when did "WE" say that lucas helped on DE 😄

Once again Where is Lucas quoted to have said he loved it???

Proof or stfu

No, DS is right. The burden of proof is on you because you made the claim that DE is non-cannon. So you have to back up your statement.

Oh FFS 😂 Lucas said The Sith (Sidious) are DESTROYED in ROTJ!!!!!!!

That means Sidious is DEAD!!!! Anakin has fulfilled the prophecy

He hasn't been hanging with OBI or Yoda so he doesn't know how to retain his identity after death!!!

"......Which brings us up to films IV, V and VI, in which Anakin's offspring redeem him, and allow him to fulfill the prophesy, where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and get rid of evil in the universe"

Is that not proof enough? if not please explain how

The omniscient narrator has confirmed that Sidious knows nearly all of the abilities. I would also consult the tNEC, the Dark Side Sourcebook, and the Dark Empire Sourcebook for further information.

Page numbers please.

Knowing nearly all of the Dark Side techniques + All the previously unknown ones + New ones he invents = more knowledge than any other Sith Lord.

'It is believed'

Originally posted by Kas'Im
Page numbers please.

[b]'It is believed' [/B]

Can you not read? Unless you have a useful argument for why the OMNISCIENT AUTHOR IS LYING OR MIGHT BE WRONG, shut up.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto

Once again Where is Lucas quoted to have said he loved it???

Proof or stfu

That means Sidious is DEAD!!!! Anakin has fulfilled the prophecy

How do you know that Qui-Gon is only person in the PT to know how to retain identity. Besides, Sidious incarnated himself. Obi-Wan appeared as a GHOST. He didn't have any physical material. What Sidious learned must have been a Dark Side technique. Remember when he said Plagueis wanted to find immortality. Well Sidious must have been studying from ROTS to ROTJ how to do so. In the end, he finally found the ability to reborn himself in case he gets killed. Which he does.

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
How do you know that Qui-Gon is only person in the PT to know how to retain identity. Besides, Sidious incarnated himself. Obi-Wan appeared as a GHOST. He didn't have any physical material. What Sidious learned must have been a Dark Side technique. Remember when he said Plagueis wanted to find immortality. Well Sidious must have been studying from ROTS to ROTJ how to do so. In the end, he finally found the ability to reborn himself in case he gets killed. Which he does.

So sidious learnd the old retain your identity after death thing?
Proof????
A comic?? 😆 😆 😆 😆

😆 😆 😆

You have no say in determining wether a comic is cannon or not, so find some proof of your own saying it's NOT, or STFU. 😆 😂

a comic is NOT a CANNON 😆 😆 😆 GTFO Jive Turkey

PROOF A COMIC IS NON-CANNON? 😆 😆 NOOB 😆 😆

WTF is Cannon????????????????? 😑 😑 😑 you retard

did you mean canon????Fool !! its only been said about 20 times already with the correct spelling 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 smilie wars wooohooo

btw I was mocking your spelling not posting an opinion .I do accept comics to be canon if they dont contradict the movies

Anyway one at a time please!!Where is Lucas quoted to have said he LOVED DE and considers it close to a sequel???

Originally posted by Escape81
San'Doria, keep up the ranting - you'll get reported. No one cares about your temper tantrums. It is the general consensus of this forum that you flat-out [B]suck as a debator.

You're not owning anyone. Get over yourself.

1) The Force > Mechanics, as DS said. Yoda has used the Force to show impressive feats of strength (moreso than Vader). Yoda was able to block an attack from Count Dooku - who was capable of using the Force to allow himself to block overhanded strikes from Anakin and Obi-Wan both - at the same time.

If RotS Sidious can overpower Yoda's lightsaber defenses with a single blast, be sured that he could easily do it to Vader. Sidious is now more powerful than he was in RotS and RotJ, and his lightning is now extreme.

Fact #1: Sidious is capable of blasting through that lightsaber.

2) Oh, and, you forget this. In Dark Empire, Sidious used the Force to disintegrate Leia's lightsaber hilt, nullifying the lightsaber itself.

What's to stop him from using that on Vader? Or Dooku? Or Maul?

Oops!

Fact #2: Sidious is capable of destroying their weapons.

(doesn't look good for these three, now does it?)

Fact #3: Sidious is far faster than these three (moving as fast as the eye can see, for one...)

Fact #4: Sidious is far more powerful than these three, in the Force.

Fact #5: Sidious possesses far more Sith knowledge than these three (or any other Sith Lord).

So, let's see:

- A single blast of Force energy will be sufficient enough to obliterate Vader. But, we'll take the cynic route. It'll take two. One blast to either a.) blast the lightsaber aside or b.) turn the lightsaber into dust. Then, the second blast will ruin Vader - killing him and putting him out of the fight.

- Sidious moves; then he can take out either Maul or Dooku with a similar feat. He can destroy their weapons, leaving them with their meager (in comparison) Force powers. Then, he blasts them both to hell.

- Sidious wins. The fight doesn't last that long.

Edit: I felt I had to respond because, your apparent arrogance and lack of cooperation as far as reading is concerned, warranted a nice swift kick of reality.

You're not anything special around here. Stop pretending that you are.

As for the Exar Kun vs. Sidious thread, it is old, and proves nothing. So quit saying: "oh this proves everything!", when clearly - if it is the consensus that Sidious > Kun, it didn't prove a damn thing. [/B]

*cough* escape81 needs a life. btw kun > sidious already janus, ikc and borbarad had convinced me that, now shut up escape 81, you are not going to convince me either way.

ok i may not be special i never said i was but speak of the devil, i find you the worst and most idiotic debator here yet who only debates on sidious

Originally posted by Escape81
1) When did we ever say that Lucas "worked on" DE?

2) You accuse "us" of being pompous? I'm sorry, weren't you the guy who just came out of the blue and [B]declared that DE isn't canon and can't be used to cite Palpatine's powers?

That is arrogance. [/B]

number1) Dont ever go around and judge people
number2) dont even attempt to justify your actions

Originally posted by Escape81

You're not owning anyone. Get over yourself.

Originally posted by Escape81
2) Oh, and, you forget this. In Dark Empire, Sidious used the Force to disintegrate Leia's lightsaber hilt, nullifying the lightsaber itself.

What's to stop him from using that on Vader? Or Dooku? Or Maul?
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Originally posted by Escape81
Fact #3: Sidious is far faster than these three (moving as fast as the eye can see, for one...)
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Originally posted by Escape81
Fact #4: Sidious is far more powerful than these three, in the Force.[/B]

Originally posted by Escape81
Fact #5: Sidious possesses far more Sith knowledge than these three (or any other Sith Lord).
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Originally posted by Escape81
- A single blast of Force energy will be sufficient enough to obliterate Vader. But, we'll take the cynic route. It'll take two. One blast to either a.) blast the lightsaber aside or b.) turn the lightsaber into dust. Then, the second blast will ruin Vader - killing him and putting him out of the fight.
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Originally posted by Escape81

- Sidious moves; then he can take out either Maul or Dooku with a similar feat. He can destroy their weapons, leaving them with their meager (in comparison) Force powers. Then, he blasts them both to hell.
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Originally posted by Escape81
- Sidious wins. The fight doesn't last that long.
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Originally posted by Escape81

As for the Exar Kun vs. Sidious thread, it is old, and proves nothing. So quit saying: "oh this proves everything!", when clearly - if it is the consensus that Sidious > Kun, it didn't prove a damn thing. [/B]

Originally posted by Kadesh
*cough* escape81 needs a life. btw kun > sidious already janus, ikc and borbarad had convinced me that, now shut up escape 81, you are not going to convince me either way.

ok i may not be special i never said i was but speak of the devil, i find you the worst and most idiotic debator here yet who only debates on sidious

Originally posted by Kadesh
speak for yourself.

number1) Dont ever go around and judge people
number2) dont even attempt to justify your actions

1. An idiot is an idiot, whether he is judged or not.
2. He doesn't have to justify anything. He raped you in a debate, the end.. Shut up.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Who has convinced you? Oh right, people that left this forum because they couldn't face facts, and who call every statement that doesn't help them sleep at night, "blanket" statement..Very nice crowd you follow. And I HIGHLY doubt Nai argued for Kun>Sidious.. You couldn't throw in an argument for Kun besides the random "omgosh he has an amulet he pwns" line..Now shut up. Nobody here cares about past arguments because they were irrelevant. The former idiots of this forum used to parade around the theory that the ancient sith could chuck stars at each other, is that true too? Stop talking shit.. All you're doing is embarassing yourself, and your lack of debating skills is evident.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
blahblah shut up
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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
1. An idiot is an idiot, whether he is judged or not.
2. He doesn't have to justify anything. He raped you in a debate, the end.. Shut up. [/B]

and darth sexy, you are the most arrogant debator on KMC. You act superior to others, You ramble, you try to judge people and you think you are above others, Let me tell you something, yes i may be an idiot, but from the way you do things, you look like you are letting out a cry of attention

The thing is, at least Sexy can admit and accept that he's a below average debater, you can't and that's why you're getting all this stick.