Originally posted by jasonk3
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cw3p3hr4.jpgthis is the other figth in CW they had, where Cap successfully knocked him out
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A scene in the distance where Cap may or may not have even landed a punch is not a KO.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
😆A scene in the distance where Cap may or may not have even landed a punch is not a KO.
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I agree that it's not a KO, but I can't believe you would be one of the ones to jump on the band wagon of "That wasn't Spidey getting LAUNCHED into the air! That was him dodging. Spread Eagle. With his head cocked back like he just got a bout of whiplash....."
I can't believe people actually believe that Spidey got the best of Cap in the Civil War fight. Good god. Three hits to one scratch? What kind of possible fanboyism could possibly make people think that Spidey got the better in that fight? Gimme a break.
I also can't believe how many people think Ult. Cap is only a 2 tonner. No matter how many idiots think Ult. Hulk was a pussy and Ult. Cap beating him up was not an indication of Ultimate Super Soldier Serum potency, Ult. Cap has held up trees for goodness sake. How can he be merely 2 ton strength?
616 Cap handles 616 Spidey without his Iron Man joytoy costume. 616 Cap matches Spidey with his Iron Man joytoy costume. Ult. Cap's strength and ruthlessness really should increase Ult. Cap's odds, but I don't think they would be much of a factor. Cool headed strategy and timing is what matters against 616 Spidey w/ his Iron Man tech.
7/10 Ult. Cap same as 616 Cap IMHO.
Originally posted by Soljer
I agree that it's not a KO, but I can't believe you would be one of the ones to jump on the band wagon of "That wasn't Spidey getting LAUNCHED into the air! That was him dodging. Spread Eagle. With his head cocked back like he just got a bout of whiplash....."
C'mon, the guy weighs around 165lbs, most characters are strong enough to knock him off his feet, if they could land a decent punch ... doesn't mean they are going to hurt him much
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Trees weigh less than two tons.
I can't believe people actually believe that Spidey got the best of Cap in the Civil War fight. Good god. Three hits to one scratch? What kind of possible fanboyism could possibly make people think that Spidey got the better in that fight? Gimme a break.I also can't believe how many people think Ult. Cap is only a 2 tonner. No matter how many idiots think Ult. Hulk was a pussy and Ult. Cap beating him up was not an indication of Ultimate Super Soldier Serum potency, Ult. Cap has held up trees for goodness sake. How can he be merely 2 ton strength?
616 Cap handles 616 Spidey without his Iron Man joytoy costume. 616 Cap matches Spidey with his Iron Man joytoy costume. Ult. Cap's strength and ruthlessness really should increase Ult. Cap's odds, but I don't think they would be much of a factor. Cool headed strategy and timing is what matters against 616 Spidey w/ his Iron Man tech.
7/10 Ult. Cap same as 616 Cap IMHO.
Originally posted by Scoobless
C'mon, the guy weighs around 165lbs, most characters are strong enough to knock him off his feet, if they could land a decent punch ... doesn't mean they are going to hurt him much
Didn't mean to say it hurt him. In fact, I don't believe I ever mentioned that Spidey was hurt, just that he WAS hit.
You referred to the action in the scan as "a scene ... where Cap may or may not have landed a punch."
Which I can't agree with - he definitely landed a punch - I've never seen Spidey dodge something like that, 😉.
Did it hurt him? Thats where speculation comes in. Maybe, maybe not, but he was hit nonethless.
I'm gonna agree with MetalMan on this one, Spidey will probably win 7/10 (unless I see some more impressive Ultimate Captain America feats - so far, he's MUCH stronger, but not nearly as skilled). About the same win rate I give 616 Cap. The strength and skill differences balance each other out, in my opinion.
Originally posted by grey foxIf you think Ult. Cap is at best a 4-5 tonner and can't take a hit from Spiderman, it's clear you don't read Ultimates or you would have seen this following scene. This is Ultimate Abomination, easily a 100 tonner, double fist pounding Cap by surprise. There's no rolling with the blow, no shield, no nothing. Does he get splattered? Does he get smooshed? Nope. He gets up to fight Abdul. Let the scan speak for itself and now you can tell yourself that you and your little friend learned something today, Ultimate Cap is far more than you give him credit for:
At best Ult Cap is a 4-5 tonner. Spidey STILL rams his fist through the guy's chest.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you think Ult. Cap is at best a 4-5 tonner and can't take a hit from Spiderman, it's clear you don't read Ultimates or you would have seen this following scene. This is Ultimate Abomination, easily a 100 tonner, double fist pounding Cap by surprise. There's no rolling with the blow, no shield, no nothing. Does he get splattered? Does he get smooshed? Nope. He gets up to fight Abdul. Let the scan speak for itself and now you can tell yourself that you and your little friend learned something today, Ultimate Cap is far more than you give him credit for:
No doubt. Not to mention him catching and supporting that tree that looked to be hundreds of feet tall. Trees like that can get into hundreds of tons, easy.
Not saying that Ultimate Cap is anywhere NEAR a hundred tonner. Just that the tree was DEFINITELY heavier than 5 tons.
