I get it now. 😄 That part in the cannibal island and Jack being a God was meant to be a set up of something thats going to happen in AWE. Meaning Auntie Dalma is going to be the one trapped in human form. I must say that quote is really confusing. It makes you understand like if it is Jack that is trapped in human form.
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he's not
Terry Is giving away plot details but he's also making it look like something else..whcih is what he does with everything...Ted does the same I think.
she's a "voodoo lady", she knew Jack was going to die before he even came to see her. She had the means to bring him back in her cabin (we see Barbossas legs). She probably told them all that he was dead.
I dont even know if those people are real. They may be water nymphs or they may be the slaves Jack released.
I dont even know if those people are real. They may be water nymphs or they may be the slaves Jack released.
I though that part was a little bit odd, because when they were in the boats nobody seemed to notice those people in the water. It was just like they weren't there. I believed they are the slaves souls guarding Tia's hut.
This next comment of mine is going to sound harsh, especially for LovelyOne, and I really don't intend for it to be...I've rewritten it about a half dozen times trying to soften it, so please don't be offended..but, just because LovelyOne has gone and studied film does not mean that she knows exactly what TnT are going to do or what they are planning.
I agree. I dont know what they are planning. But I'm pretty confident on one or two things..and you will be surprised that J/E ending is NOT one of the things I'm confident on.
I'm not confident on that at all I dont actually think that it will happen with AWE.
I'm just trying to figure out how it could 😂
I don't see how the writers are W/E shippers since when did you get that vibe?..
What I find interesting is how they have visibly introduced J/E..its SMOKING HOT it is far more interesting than anything we have ever seen from W/E..EVER! why even do this if not to attract the audience to that particular relationship? People are obviously gonna lean towards that..especially the males. because its got sex appeal
Sex sells..the golden rule of Hollywood..why do I see no sex appeal with W/E?
you take away those 2 kisses and the line between the cage..and you would swear they were siblings.
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Star Wars had to do that because Lukes main priority became his father..the hero cant have two major reconciliations(father and the female) during and after the supreme ordeal because it would clash people saw him get the girl already..and would people want to really see that again?. which makes me think Liz might end up on her own because something is zapping back into my mind here about what T&T said about starwars but ep 4/5 were one big story for startwars as is DMC/AWE..meaning Jack dont gots dat female just yet savvy?..well he does but he needs to "return home with"..if he does that is.
Lukes was with the father Han's was with the female.
LovelyOne, i'm all with ya. its so true. they wouldn't have even introduced the j/l element unless they were bored with the w/l element. horny writers resort to the relationship that is actually shockingly hott, totally unexpected and unbearably unique.
Gah, LovelyOne i'm going a little bit crazy if you know what i mean. care to pm me anything? lol. 😉
LOL i know seriously.... no way was the w/l relationship going to pull off 3 films, even with all their so called "developing".
and here's a question. how the heck are w/l's relationship supposed to develope if they NEVER BLOODY TALK!?!?!?! they just mope around not asking each other the truth behind anything, assuming nonsense about each other, refusing to be honest with each other. its bogus to think they are "growing" because of this.
and everyone is like "they are going to develope and have a better, more mature, more complex relationship in 3." but the thing is, T and T keep saying they don't do internalized conflict. whenever there is character development or growth or anything, they EXTERNALIZE it. they turn it into a plot thing, an action thing. HENCE< DMC.
and in 3, with all we know, whats going on?
Will and Elizabeth are STILL not being honest with each other, barely talking, etc.
Jack and Elizabeth are EXTERNALLY fighting out their inner issues! Trading each other, arguing, etc...
and THAT is how T and T do character growth/developement. Know what I mean?
The writers know what the public want, our hearts true desires 😄. I though COTBP was a good movie, same old boring Disney movie. What else can you expect? The writers are intelligent people that know how to surprise the audiences. And what better to give the audience something shocking and that is less expected. People are going to love that. The writers knew that people were going to get bored if they saw the same thing. Totally agree w/ Kate, the writers wouldn't introduced the J/L thing for no reason or to make the W/E relationship stronger, that would be a bunch of crab.
Melodrama and melodramatic characters:
"In melodramatic cinema, the interior emotions of the characters are expressed in means other than verbal Language: setting, color, music and other aspects in the mise en scene. Big emotions can sometimes not be put into words, and the feeling is displaced into other cinematic codes and signs"
"The function of melodrama is to clarify (make clear) the moral choices we make every day. There is a clear distinction to be made between melodrama and tragedy. The latter usually features noble characters who are determined to pursue a certain goal. Sometimes in conflict with the gods themselves, even to the point of death. There is very little whining or moaning in the acceptance of their destiny because, they themselves have shaped it and take full responsibility for it(can someone say Will?)"
Film Theorist Thomas Elsaesser contrasts action driven narrative with melodramatic story telling "In one sense the drama moves forward by having its central conflicts projected into direct action, a Jail break, a bank robbery a car chase. Not so in domestic melodrama, the range of "strong action" is limited"
PotC isn't a domestic melodrama. The emotions are not expressed inside..you see them projected on screen through other means
and Its only Jack/Liz who seem to do this in DMC
Jack/Liz do have their words..but its the actions that show more about their emotins as do objects like the compass. and other things like the dog and the Kraken IMO.
Wow interesting, So that makes POTC a melodrama? it would be cool if they make AWE a tragedy.
"In melodramatic cinema, the interior emotions of the characters are expressed in means other than verbal Language: setting, color, music and other aspects in the mise en scene. Big emotions can sometimes not be put into words, and the feeling is displaced into other cinematic codes and signs"
This quote makes a lot of sense in regard to the characters, specially J/L.
There is very little whining or moaning in the acceptance of their destiny because, they themselves have shaped it and take full responsibility for it(can someone say Will?)"