Thanks kate I love you too 😄 and you msty and shanstar etc..
Yes Misty its turning into tragedy it seems..but tragedy usually revolves around one character "this is Will's story" according to T&T on AWE
sometimes its two but when its a second person that person usually isnt a huge main character with thier own seperate story going on like Elizabeth
if there is a second tragic character they are usually mere plot points
(tia??)
Originally posted by katelovespirate
have i told you guys lately that i love you all? seriously. you guys are awesome and so smart.LovelyOne, thanks for always getting to the depth of things with your theories!!! 🙂 they are so important to keep our hopes alive.
Yes everyone's theories are amazing. I believe all of you guys bring in such interesting points, that make a lot of sense. And specially thanks to Lovelyone, for sharing with us her knowledge. It makes this board more interesting. Luv all of you guys 4 ever.
Originally posted by LovelyOne
Thanks kate I love you too 😄 and you msty and shanstar etc..Yes Misty its turning into tragedy it seems..but tragedy usually revolves around one character "this is Will's story" according to T&T on AWE
sometimes its two but when its a second person that person usually isnt a huge main character with thier own seperate story going on like Elizabeth
if there is a second tragic character they are usually mere plot points
(tia??)
to add..I aslo study Classical Civ..and I had to study ancient greek literature with it lol..its amazing how the 2 subjects can tie in so well 😄
I did the Odyssey, and the tragedies: Oedipus, Antigone and Hephaestus
Originally posted by LovelyOne
to add..I aslo study Classical Civ..and I had to study ancient Greek literature with it lol..its amazing how the 2 subjects can tie in so well 😄I did the Odyssey, and the tragedies: Oedipus, Antigone and Hephaestus
I took English literature and ancient Greek literature as an elective. It was a really good and interesting class. I learned a lot from it. At first I didn't wanted to take it, but I needed the credits for my social science degree. But it was worth it I don't regret taking it.
Is that Classical Civ like a Humanities class?
yeah well Will definately fits the bill of the "tragic hero" which is interesting considering the rest of the movie is a dead cut out for a melodrama.
Plus, in a melodramatic setting, Jack would technically be considered the hero, if you take into account the modern re-organization of the melodrama.
plus, T and T made that huge quote about "letting your hero smile often, in every act." If they were serious about that, Jack IS their hero. know what i mean? Will only smiles twice in DMC. literally. and not in a heroic way either... in a passing fancy way.
So if they are making will the tragic hero/protagonist, that pretty much means he has to either die or lose the thing he wants most.
poor Will. ah well. best not wallow in our grief... on to the hotness of liz and jack!!!!!!!!!
agreed 🙂
also Its unrealistic for a character to reconcile with 2 main "rewards" the female and the father after the supreme ordeal it cant be both..Wills gonna have to be gaining one and not the other..IMO its his father..thats the very reason he vows to stab the heart..not to save Liz..Its to save his dad.
Originally posted by LovelyOne
agreed 🙂also Its unrealistic for a character to reconcile with 2 main "rewards" the female and the father after the supreme ordeal it cant be both..Wills gonna have to be gaining one and not the other..IMO its his father..thats the very reason he vows to stab the heart..not to save Liz..Its to save his dad.
Right, he will be dying for his father not for Liz. Will's character kind of contradicts himself, remember in COTBP When Will says he is willing to die for her. Well at that point he was, but after he finds his father he realises he is way more important than Liz. And thats why I think he accept it that Liz and him are falling apart. He didn't seem that torn when he saw Liz kissing Jack. He was upset but not angry. I believe that was when he accepted it.
Originally posted by Chiki Mina
read and read and more reading about the steps, its great and all dont get me wrong...but cant we go whats in the movie, like use a litle of our hearts and instincs other than fancy film studies and 1203801238 steps.
We were trying to figure out something with the hero 12 steps. Dis you read the previous posts?