Lucas is an idiot!

Started by darthsinister8 pages

Lucas is an idiot!

Sorry if anybody feels offended with that remark but i'll try to explain to you why... First of all, I am a huge Star Wars fan, i love everything about it, except that way Lucas approached the Prequel Trilogy... Its quite obvious when you look at the Making of documentaries that Lucas spent more time trying to choose what alien mask he wanted for some pointless Senate debate scene or to choose what costume should Padme wear, then the time to make a good screenplay with a good storyline that is logical and has no loose ends with Original trilogy...

It almost feels when you listen to his interviews that he doesnt even understand the story, all he cares about is making as much pointless new caracters so he can sell more merchandise in mcdonalds and toy'r'us... For example - jar jar, of course, zam wessell, that creepy guy at Utapau, and General Grievous... The later one i even liked but a fourth villain in ROTS was not something that we really needed!

He cant even gives a good reason why Anakin turned to the dark side?! First of all, the transformation was far to quick, in one scene he is a good guy, loyal to the jedi, and in the other he hates them and has no problem with killing the younglings...

Also Lucas makes Anakin look like a idiot... He believe that Palpatine will help him save Padme's life?! He obviously forgot that Palpsy try to kill Padme in many occasions (both in TPM and AOTC), also he know that Palpsy is reasponsible for the Clone Wars so how can a normal person trust someone like that...

My feeling is that Anakin should slowly start to turn to the Dark Side (in AOTC), and because of his desire for bigger power he starts to explore (at Palpatine's advice) the ancient Sith practices... So the main reason for turning to the Dark Side (in my opion) should be the quest for greater power and not saving Padmes life... Also i would make the Jedi Coucil more restrained to Anakin, especially Mace Windu, the should have tried to hold him back... Then he would have a good reason to dislike them and eventually to betray them. Sadly, you dont see any of that in the movie where it looks like Anakin is nothing that a spoiled brat who wants to be a Jedi Master, a year after he became a Jedi Knight...

Thats my only remark to ROTS, but the first two have some major illogical story parts... I will skip TPM beacuse it has no screenplay period! All Lucas wanted it that one is to introduce a first CGI character in a movie (jar jar) and to make the ben-hur type chariot scene on Tatooine which lasts almost half a movie...

My main problem with AOTC, except the corny dialog between Padme and Anakin is that nobody was worried or puzzled that the Clone Army that was make for the Republic (which at the end saved all the jedi in the arena) was cloned from a Bounty Hunter working for Count Dooku who is leader of the Separatists?!?

Secondly, it was never explained why none of the Jedi can sense that Palpaine is a Sith? And regarding Yoda... none of his lines make sense in this one, what ever happend to that wise creature in ESB, all he does in this one is speak stupid oneliners for the trailers and teasers ("Begun the Clone War has"😉...

And lastly there are huge discrepancies regarding the jedi powers specially in AOTC and the Clone Wars cartoon... In AOTC almost two hundred Jedi Knights and Masters cant deal with a flock of flying insects and a battalion of Battle droids?! In the cartoon one Jedi can destroy hundreds of droids in a few minutes... but in AOTC a Jedi Master from the Jedi Council can even deflect a few laster blasts with his lightsaber (i'm reffering to Colemon Trebor who was killed by Jango Fett).

Thats all for now... Please write me your opinions about my comments, i'm very interested if there are other fans that are botherd with the same things that bother me!
And if you have something else to add, please do!

Wow, I will not read all that. Just because his Prequel movies weren't too good because of the acting and bad lines, they don't make him an idiot. I'll agree though, AOTC was pretty bad, but I think the worst lines and acting was in ROTS. And I'll agree with that Clone Wars thing. Though I don't think that part was Lucas's fault.

on the topic: agreed

on the post: im not reading all that shit 😂 maybe you can edit and abridge that and ill give it a read.

Well points made though. They all center on the STORYTELLING of the PT, not so much the bad acting and the bad lines.

I agree with your points, DS... and Lucas was the man who always insisted that Special Effect were only TOOLS of storytelling. I believe Lucas contradicts himself with the PT.

Addition to my post!

I know that some of those story inconsistancies and unanswered questions are because of the time restraint of a movie, you cant answer are questions in 2hours of movie time... at least not a storyteller of Lucas' calibar... I think Peter Jackson could maybe do it... But at least Lucas could have given some additional explanations in this DVD commentary or in some of his many DVD featurettes... Instead in the commentary we only here stuff that we already know and that boring sound effects guy that explains in detail how every sound in the movie was done?!

Oh, i have two questions regarding the OT, please reply me if you know the answers...

How come there is no mention of the Sith in the OT? Do the imperial officers know that their Emperor is a Sith Lord and to they know what a Sith Lord is?!

How come the Lars family didnt change Luke's last name? I mean Anakin Skywalker was a hero of the Republic and the most famous Jedi during the Clone Wars, so the name Skywalker should be well known across the galaxy, and i dont think the name was completely forgotten in just 20 years...

Btw, sorry but i cant edit my original post to by more shorter because it loses its meaning... 🙂

Please write me more of your thoughts on the subject!

😆 I understand 😉

Your last two points there are simply spectacularly unimportant. Changing name would have changed little, and why mention the Sith? It's not realy important at all.

You are letting your enthusiasm get the better of you.

"Secondly, it was never explained why none of the Jedi can sense that Palpaine is a Sith?"- Yes it was. "Hard to see, the Dark Side is." All you need.

And the Jedi were clearly VERY suspicious about the Clones, but had no choice in the matter.

Your comparison with the Clone Wars cartoon is also facile. They are entirely different mediums with entirely different approaches, and aside from anything else, Clone Wars is EU and so not even in continuity.

Try to think a little more carefully before unleashing such a barrage of criticism.

Still.. the storytelling isn't that great. Council's examples aten't that great either... hehehehe

Re: Lucas is an idiot!

Originally posted by darthsinister
Lucas is an idiot.

Tell us something we dont know. 1234

...most geniuses are.

I wouldn't exactly put Lucas in the genius category.

I do agree with some of the things that u are saying.

Re: Lucas is an idiot!

Yeah sure, but so were John Lenon, Salvador Dali, and Howard Hughes.

Originally posted by Alliance
I wouldn't exactly put Lucas in the genius category.

Oh, of course not...that's why we spend half our waking hours in his universe. 😉

Originally posted by darthsinister
...i'm very interested if there are other fans that are botherd with the same things that bother me!

Pretty much on any given day at KMC Star Wars dude...(fanboys excluded of course...and you know who you are!!!)

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Yeah sure, but so were John Lenon, Salvador Dali, and Howard Hughes.

😆 Yeah and Hitler is Mother Teresa. Besides John Lenon's music sucks, Dali is a crap artist, and I don't know much about Hughes, but if Leo Decraprio played him, he must suck.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh, of course not...that's why we spend half our waking hours in his universe. 😉
So? Even idiots can think of good things now an again. We spend half of our hours debating how crappy the films were and how many errors/inconsitancies are in the films.

Then we try to figure out why we still like then 😖

Originally posted by Council#13
Wow, I will not read all that.

SO no comment.

Originally posted by Alliance
Besides John Lenon's music sucks

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Originally posted by Alliance
Dali is a crap artist

😑

Originally posted by Alliance
and I don't know much about Hughes, but if Leo Decraprio played him, he must suck.

😑

Originally posted by Alliance
Even idiots can think of good things now an again.

Yes, I would have to agree with you on that one 😉 😉 😉

😂

As an artist myself, Dali is over-rated. 😄

I thought you just said he's crap...

Citizen Kane is overrated...but at the and of the day it's a darn fine movie.

Warhol's overrated...but his art is pretty influential and is quite impressive.

And as an artist myself I think they're both geniuses.

By over-rated I mean he sucks balls.

'k now I know you're just playin'

...or live in outer space...the outer rim...Kamino to be exact.