Kyle Rayner Vs Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I was not ignoring that, but it seemed like many people here were doubting whether SS could absorb GL energy. I haven't seen too many posts where people say GL can't absorb energy.

Also, no response to my speedblitz examples? Not saying he would do it, but he has shown the ability.

READ MY POSTS PEOPLE!

At no point did I say SS would Speedblitz him. Galan777 said SS had never on panel speedblitzed someone.

Get off GLs nutz and read posts before responding. At no point in this thead have I said SS wins.

Originally posted by Galan777
None of the "feats" you listed equate to Surfer getting to Kyle before his shield forms (instantly)

Which has nothing to do with anything I said. I was just trying to illustrate that you were wrong when you said that SS could not speedblitz.

Don't be so sensative, and read my posts before jumping to dedend a character when I didn't even say anything about him.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
At no point did I say SS would Speedblitz him. Galan777 said SS had never on panel speedblitzed someone.

This is what I said:

Originally posted by Galan777
How many times on pannel has Surfer EVER speedblitzed someone?

Its an option of his that is really never used and not really effective

Originally posted by Galan777
When did I say that Surfer [B]couldn't speedblitz?

This is what I said:

Please don't put words in my mouth... [/B]

You implied that SS hasn't Speedblitzed on panel.

I gave 3 examples. So does this mean that is someone has only done something 3 times it can't really be effective?

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
You implied that SS hasn't Speedblitzed on panel.

I simply was asking how many times out of all of Surfers appearences has he outright speedblitzed someone effectively? Not once did I say that Surfer was unable to speedblitz. 🙄

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I gave 3 examples. So does this mean that is someone has only done something 3 times it can't really be effective?

but were they really examples of a true speedblitz? ❌

I'd give the nod to Surfer, but it wouldn't be a cake walk in any way.

He's better to face Surfer than Superman is.

And i've never seen Surfer speedblitz......

Just cause he's fast on his board, doesn't mean we should give him the speedblitz capability without hardcore proof.

Plus, i hate the speedblitz argument.

Thats something for the DC fanbase to fallback on.

Surfer has insane feats on his own, such that he doesn't need such a cheap tactic.

Everybody comes with Surfer's great physical abilities and his speed.
SS's powers aren't really based on that. In other words that is just one of his many talents.
I admit that Kyle has shown his feats of energy "sucking". But the other side we don't know if Surfer could just disable the power of the OA ring. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. Current (well last seen) Silver Surfer was a pretty powerful boosted version. And last we saw Kyle as a Green Lantern he was a very powerful OA Soldier.

My points :

1. The ring can always react faster than we know. The stronger and more experienced the user is, the ring is a more powerful weapon.

2. Energy manipulation and cosmic power can be hurtful.

3. Kyle Rayner proofed that he can be an equal to any so called "big" cosmics or very strong warriors with wierd powers.

4. Green Lantern's powers (OA Power Ring) is based on will power and as far as I read Kyle's comics, Mr. Rayner's fantasy is pretty colorful. And better than that he is a very experienced Green Lantern

5. Silver Surfer is strong just people a little overrate his powers. When I came to KMC I saw a scan Wolverine stabbing Surfer.

6. We don't really know the limits of Kyle's will and the OA power...

7. That can be said for Silver Surfer. Except he got beaten a couple of times pretty bad by people with limited energy. (Warrior Madness Thor slapped him a coupler of times and if not for Beta Ray Bill SS would be...But that's another story)

That's all I can think of now.

Originally posted by Rewmac
5. Silver Surfer is strong just people a little overrate his powers. When I came to KMC I saw a scan Wolverine stabbing Surfer.

Originally posted by Rewmac

5. Silver Surfer is strong just people a little overrate his powers. When I came to KMC I saw a scan Wolverine stabbing Surfer.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
That was a What If comic and Wolverine also stabbed Thanos with the IG.

Originally posted by bigbran
Non canon.
I seen it like a week ago, it was in a what if, and it is used as canon evidence just so Wolverine can beat everyone.

Sorry I didn't no that. Sorry about it. That was like a year ago. I know Wolverine can kill everyone... 😕 😛 😠

Wolverine against characters like SS and Thanos is just makin' me scream...I mean what more do they want from him??? To destroy multiverses and then recreate that with a Claw Slash??

If Captain Marvel can manipulate Oan energy after getting a taste of it, it's safe to assume that Surfer can to.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
speedblitz

Surfer can't speedblitz.

That's strictly KMC Forums' legend.

Originally posted by Soljer
And the Surfer has travelled across galaxies in a 'near instant'

😬.

And Kyle has flown from one side of the universe to the other in under a day.

Originally posted by batdude123
And Kyle has flown from one side of the universe to the other in under a day.

And the Surfer visited every planet and star in the Marvel Universe in somewhere between half an hour, and a few hours.

Feat wars are meaningless - there is a reason this is such a good fight.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'm not the one arguing it. I merely stated that the Surfer HAS reacted 'instantaneously' before. He has travelled GREAT distances in 'near instan[ces]'. To say that he COULDN'T speedblitz someone just as quickly is a baseless argument.

Travelling at warpspeed really really fast in a straight line doesn't constitute as a speedblitz, friend.

Originally posted by Soljer
And the Surfer visited every planet and star in the Marvel Universe in somewhere between half an hour, and a few hours.

Feat wars are meaningless - there is a reason this is such a good fight.

Which doesn't mean he can speedblitz someone in a COMBAT situation.

He's never shown the reflexes in a fight to make me believe so. THANOS pops up strongly in my mind...

You're right. This IS a good fight...

Originally posted by batdude123
Which doesn't mean he can speedblitz someone in a COMBAT situation.

He's never shown the reflexes in a fight to make me believe so. THANOS pops up strongly in my mind...

You're right. This IS a good fight...

The Surfer being unable to get the infinity gauntlet from Thanos (in one particular dimension) isn't a showing of Surfer being UNABLE to travel at that speed, and have reflexes of that level....rather, it is just to show how good Thanos' reflexes are.

Besides, I'm not arguing for a speedblitz. I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing, and that was the only argument brought up thus far.

I honestly see this as an AMAZING fight with a slight nod to the surfer.