What does America owe England?

Originally posted by Strangelove
no2 The Founding Fathers invented America while being part of England, that doesn't count as England inventing America. Of course, you can't really 'invent' a country

So England was the brains behind the founding of America. hmm

Originally posted by ThePittman
If America didn’t get into the war then Russia would have fallen, they could not have fought a two front war.

Dude Russia took the brunt of the war, they made the difference when they were attacked, not the US.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
You saved our asses both WWI & WWII...

But you also got owned in Vietnam... So suck my balls. 😐

Yeah we lost the war politically; big ****ing deal. We only lost 58 thousand to their 2 million. Pretty pathetic considering it was in their backyard.

Militarily, we kicked ass.

Originally posted by The Pict
And Russia as an afterthought? 😬 Russia won the war, not america. And why would we thank them for that? They went to war when attacked, not before to help britain.

Exactly. The Rooskies were in it for selfish reasons. The only reason they allied with the US and UK is because we had a common enemy in Hitler.

Originally posted by ThePittman
If America didn’t get into the war then Russia would have fallen, they could not have fought a two front war.

Yep, Germany would've easily handled England and Russia.

Originally posted by BackFire
They have our allegiance. What more do they need?

And sorry, VVD, Alba and Aguilera are mine. You can, however, have the Olson twins, nearly free of charge.

Seems fair.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Exactly. The Rooskies were in it for selfish reasons. The only reason they allied with the US and UK is because we had a common enemy in Hitler.

You misinterpreted my meaning, I meant the US only got involved once they were attacked.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Yep, Germany would've easily handled England and Russia.

Not a chance in hell, read up on what happened in Russia. And Germany didn't have the resources to invade britain.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yep, Germany would've easily handled England and Russia.

Good Lord, where is this utter nonsense coming from?

Germany could not conquer the UK and was going to be totally crushed by Russia no matter what.

Originally posted by The Pict
Dude Russia took the brunt of the war, they made the difference when they were attacked, not the US.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
So England was the brains behind the founding of America. hmm

Err, no! Where the hell did you learn history? Germany was totally beaten by Russia and Japan was in no position to do anything to the Soviets either. The Soviets weren't IN a two front war.

There is some pitiful ignorance on display in this thread.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Militarily, we kicked ass.

You kick ass militarily until you shoot an ally... You and your friendly fire. 😐

Originally posted by ThePittman
If America didn’t get into the war then Russia would have fallen, they could not have fought a two front war.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Good Lord, where is this utter nonsense coming from?

Germany could not conquer the UK and was going to be totally crushed by Russia no matter what.

Not without the US on the Allied ticket.

Originally posted by Strangelove
no2 people who happened to be English subjects (and hated England) founded America

So America was founded by English rejects... hmm

Originally posted by §P0oONY
You kick ass militarily until you shoot an ally... You and your friendly fire. 😐

Freindly fire occurs. So whats your point?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Not without the US on the Allied ticket.

Err, no on both counts.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yep, Germany would've easily handled England and Russia.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Russia could have taken a lot more punishment than it did before it would have fallen

Punishment? Wasn't it the Russians that stormed Berlin? Didn't they hand out the punishment after the Nazi's invaded Russia during winter... (Good job Nazi's)

Originally posted by ThePittman
I never said they didn’t take the brunt of the war; they out of all the allies suffered the most in human life (if I remember right). What I said is that if the US didn’t get into the war and attack Japan armies then Russia would have fallen, they could not withstand a two front war for much longer. If Russia fell then it would have been all over for England.

Wrong, in Russia the germans were being torn apart. They were starving, cut off from any reinforcements (and if memory serves Hitler refused to send any and told them to keep fighting) While the deaths of the Russians were higher they had the manpower to hold and and they did. Russia wasn't in danger of losing to Germany, and I don't recall Japan causing problems there either.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
So America was founded by English rejects... hmm

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Punishment? Wasn't it the Russians that stormed Berlin? Didn't they hand out the punishment after the Nazi's invaded Russia during winter... (Good job Nazi's)