What does America owe England?

Started by §P0oONY14 pages
Originally posted by Strangelove
no2 it was founded by self-isolated malcontents, not rejects

So English rejects then? hmm

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err, no on both counts.

Germany took France in only six weeks; something it couldn't do in 4 years of WW1. England was next.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Germany took France in only six weeks; something it couldn't do in 4 years of WW1. England was next.

Erm... Hate to break it to you pal... Russia was the problem to Germany... Not America.

WWII in Europe was mostly fought with the Germans, English, Russians, and the French.

WWII in the South Pacific was mostly fought by America. That is where the US is mostly credited.

Let's get this World War issue sorted right now.

The whole of Western Europe owes the US a huge debt of thanks foe what it did to liberate it in World War II (and the UK, not liberated but certainly having no fun with the Nazis triumphant in Europe and needing relief). Yes, the Americans were late in, but I doubt the Europeans would have lifted a finger to help in an American war until it grew to involve them also. This debt was followed by more as the US guaranteed Western European security for the next fifty years.

But if you want a straight answer to the thread question... ok, then the answer is that the US owes the UK that the UK stayed in the war long enough to make that possible.

The UK stayed in the war against the Nazis for nearly a year entirely solo. No other country (excluding UK Imperial attachments) was fighting the Nazis in this time. And the UK was th first countr yto stop the Nazis getting what they wanted- a UK surrender.

If the UK had surrendered, there could have been no African campaign, no D-Day, and no practical intervention in Europe. The Russians would have rolled up the whole lot- and almost certainbly taken Japan too. The US would have los tthe shot it got at getting this enormous post war cultural influence over the world that it has toda.

So that's what you owe the UK. The chance that made you what you are.

There.

Ahem...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
WWII in Europe was mostly fought with the Germans, English, Russians, and the French.

WWII in the South Pacific was mostly fought by America. That is where the US is mostly credited.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Germany took France in only six weeks; something it couldn't do in 4 years of WW1. England was next.

They failed to take the UK. They couldn't do it. Go learn some history.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
WWII in Europe was mostly fought with the Germans, English, Russians, and the French.

Minus the French.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
So English rejects then? hmm
oh, bugger off laughing

Originally posted by Ushgarak
They failed to take the UK. They couldn't do it. Go learn some history.

Yeah the failed at their first attepmt. They were gonna come back for round 2, though.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
WWII in Europe was mostly fought with the Germans, English, Russians, and the French.

WWII in the South Pacific was mostly fought by America. That is where the US is mostly credited.

Germany & Italy vs. Russia, France & Britain.

Japan vs. America

followed by

Germany vs. Russia, France, Britain & America.

Sort of how I like to look at it... Even though it's not exactly right.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Minus the French.

Technically...the French Resistance. 😉

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah the failed at their first attepmt. They were gonna come back for round 2, though.

No they weren't. Even if they were, the Russians were going to finish the deal first.

The Germans actively lacked the capacity to take the UK; they had neither the naval nor the aerial ability to do so.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Technically...the French Resistance. 😉

Ay guey...

I'm talking about a real fighting force.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Germany took France in only six weeks; something it couldn't do in 4 years of WW1. England was next.

You realise Britain is an island and not a neighbouring country to germany right?

I think I know what happens with the UK confusion of WWII. It's because most of us here in America have seen the footage and films of The Deutsche Luftwaffe. London looked very devastated during the attack. Remenber even H. G. Wells in his novel The Time Machine makes a referrence on the bombing. So it's reasonable people see it as a defeat.

Originally posted by The Pict
You realise Britain is an island and not a neighbouring country to germany right?

No shit.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I think I know what happens with the UK confusion of WWII. It's because most of us here in America have seen the footage and films of The Deutsche Luftwaffe. London looked very devastated during the attack. Remenber even H. G. Wells in his novel The Time Machine makes a referrence on the bombing. So it's reasonable people see it as a defeat.

The Time Machine was written in 1895.

Can we just agree that Britain owes America nothing.... Well, not from WWII anyway?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah the failed at their first attepmt. They were gonna come back for round 2, though.
Germany had no capacity whatsoever to take Russia or England. They overreached their army.

Like Ush said, go learn some history