It is well documented that Hitler did NOT want to invade the UK. Once he became convinced they would not strike up a treaty with Germany, he planned an invasion, but nothing ever came of it because he knew it was not a possibility. This is why he relied on the airforce to pummel them into submission and ordered his U-boats to cut off their supply lines in the Atlantic.
As for Russia, it had way to many men to fall to the German military. But the real mistake made by Germany was ignoring history and continuing to march on Russia in the winter. This held back their advance, giving the Russians time to regroup, on top of the fact that Russian winters were second nature for them. If Germany had held off until after the western European theater was accomplished or abandoned, it might have had a slightly better chance of engaging Russia on equal ground.
Originally posted by Strangelove
Germany had no capacity whatsoever to take Russia or Germany. They overreached their army.Like Ush said, go learn some history
In a prolonged war, you're right. That's why Germany went for a swift kill. Samething with Japan; they knew they couldn't win a prolonged war either.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
In a prolonged war, you're right. That's why Germany went for a swift kill. Samething with Japan; they knew they couldn't win a prolonged war either.
And they failed, and that rather proves the point. US intervention was not the vital component in Germany's defeat- Russia was.
Nor was US military intervention necessary to save the UK- Germany could not take the UK, and lakced the will to try anyway.
I outlined the benefits and debts involved from the US intervention in my post on the last page.
Originally posted by The Pict
Right so how were Germany, while fighting in Russia going to amount an invasion of a huge island, protected by a great navy? There was no way Germany could take out france then go for britain.
Not all of Germany was in Russia, just like not all of the US was in the Pacific. I beleive Germany's plan was to invade via the English Channel. But losing the Battle of Britian set them back.
It didn't set them back. It wasn't that sort of Battle. It proved to them that the entire idea was pointless. Britain could not be invaded by sea or induced to surrender by air assault; Germany was just taking heavy losses for no gain. And a lot of them knew it from the start; Adolf Galland is very particular on this point.
Nothing they ever did would have changed that.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaAs has been stated several times by people in this thread, textbooks and historians, Germany did not have the capacity nor the will nor the strategy to invade England. If they would have tried, they'd have failed. Much like they did anyway when they tried to invade Russia
Not all of Germany was in Russia, just like not all of the US was in the Pacific. I beleive Germany's plan was to invade via the English Channel. But losing the Battle of Britian set them back.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
They lacked the means and materiel perhaps, but not the will, ey.
Yes they did lack the will- easy to check the history to show that. Hitler didn't care, he wanted Russia; the Luftwaffe couldn;t see the point, the Wehrmacht didn;t want to have to lose so many resources on occupation, and all in all they all thought that the UK would eventually deal.
All the effort was looking East. For most it was already; the B of B convinced the rest.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
🙄 And tell us why....
because its turning into pathetic country vs country wars.
people on here are programmed into the 'proud to be british/american Programs etc'. its not real folks.
They are illusions written into the program to divide, rule and delude us. You are not American, British, South African, Mexican - any of them. You are Infinite Consciousness - 'infinite love is the only truth
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It didn't set them back. It wasn't that sort of Battle. It proved to them that the entire idea was pointless. Britain could not be invaded by sea or induced to surrender by air assault; Germany was just taking heavy losses for no gain. And a lot of them knew it from the start; Adolf Galland is very particular on this point.Nothing they ever did would have changed that.
Give America just a little bit of credit... America was supplying the U.K. wit hbadbly needed goods, without America the U.K. would not have withstood the aerial bombings and the u-boat attacks in the long run. Hitler and the German High Command were not planning an outright invasion of Britain, they planned on weakening and starving out the U.K. through air & sea.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It didn't set them back. It wasn't that sort of Battle. It proved to them that the entire idea was pointless. Britain could not be invaded by sea or induced to surrender by air assault; Germany was just taking heavy losses for no gain. And a lot of them knew it from the start; Adolf Galland is very particular on this point.Nothing they ever did would have changed that.
So then what sort of battle was the Battle of Britian? Was it just a bombing campaign, que no?
Originally posted by Robtard
Give America just a little bit of credit... America was supplying the U.K. wit hbadbly needed goods, without America the U.K. would not have withstood the aerial bombings and the u-boat attacks in the long run. Hitler and the German High Command were not planning an outright invasion of Britain, they planned on weakening and starving out the U.K. through air & sea.
The UK's Navy and Airforce was far more powerful than that of the German's. You have to remember that Germany hadn't had that long to equip themselves as the Treaty of Versailles left their millitary more than ravaged.