i hate god
enough said
i win
you lose
dont cry
i hate you too
im joking
or am i
maybe
for a baby
before i get married
YAY
another sin under my belt
no
dont cry
i said it earlier
dont cry
seriously dont cry
the next person to post is going to die
im going ot kill them
no
dont cry
im serious
dont make me call upon my satanic powers
im serious
dont make me do it
i will
dont cry
testicle
that is all
goodbye
ladies
im going to leave you now
peace out
P.S. dont cry
and i hate god
and you
Re: i hate god
Originally posted by undercoverninja
enough said
i win
you lose
dont cry
i hate you too
im joking
or am i
maybe
for a baby
before i get married
YAY
another sin under my belt
no
dont cry
i said it earlier
dont cry
seriously dont cry
the next person to post is going to die
im going ot kill them
no
dont cry
im serious
dont make me call upon my satanic powers
im serious
dont make me do it
i will
dont cry
testicle
that is all
goodbye
ladies
im going to leave you now
peace out
P.S. dont cry
and i hate god
and you
But God loves you and so do I [with Christian love, don't get it twisted] in Jesus Name.
John 3:15-17
15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[a] have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Ephesians 2:3-5
3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
1 John 4:8
He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:10
In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
1 John 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love,
and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
This is the most outstanding difference between the God of the Bible (Jesus Christ) and the gods of Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, and the like. The God of the Bible is love. Love is a Person--Jesus the Christ.
Re: i hate god
Originally posted by undercoverninja
enough said
i win
you lose
dont cry
i hate you too
im joking
or am i
maybe
for a baby
before i get married
YAY
another sin under my belt
no
dont cry
i said it earlier
dont cry
seriously dont cry
the next person to post is going to die
im going ot kill them
no
dont cry
im serious
dont make me call upon my satanic powers
im serious
dont make me do it
i will
dont cry
testicle
that is all
goodbye
ladies
im going to leave you now
peace out
P.S. dont cry
and i hate god
and you
OooooK.
Strictly speaking I don't think this will stay open, since it isn't the kind of thing this forum if for.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
God can't lie? So, he's limited? There's something he can't do?
God cannot lie because He is Truth. Limited? I see this as a blessing than a limitation for if God could lie it would imply that God is a sinner. If God were a sinner we would all be in trouble because there isn't anyone capable of restraining God. There isn't anyone bigger or stronger than God. God would be capable of being the biggest, most menacing bully that has ever existed. Man, the thought of that alone would terrify me if it were true. Just think about it: there is no "God" law enforcement to keep God in check or to curb His lawlessness if God were a sinner, so who would protect us from Him? He could do anything that He wants to us and we would be utterly helpless to stop Him.
But thank God that He cannot lie, is not a man that He should lie, and that it is impossible for God to lie! Hallelujah! God is holy! God is righteous! God is just! God is compassionate! God is lovingkind! God is merciful! God is Love (personified)!
If only truth was absolute.
God probably could lie but would still be called truth because he is God.
Just like he can kill but not be a murderer because he Is God.
Just like he can let his Children suffer terribly and without fault of their own but still be called a loving father who loves us more then anything. Because he IS God.
Just like he stand by and allow the supposed Sadism of Hell whereas a person who knew about something like that and did nothing would be liable under the law. Because he is God.
It is easy to be sinless when one works under the clause "no rules apply to me and thus I can never break them and thus I am sinless."
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
If only truth was absolute.God probably could lie but would still be called truth because he is God.
Just like he can kill but not be a murderer because he Is God.
Just like he can let his Children suffer terribly and without fault of their own but still be called a loving father who loves us more then anything. Because he IS God.
Just like he stand by and allow the supposed Sadism of Hell whereas a person who knew about something like that and did nothing would be liable under the law. Because he is God.
It is easy to be sinless when one works under the clause "no rules apply to me and thus I can never break them and thus I am sinless."
The last time you sounded this cynical and bitter I wrote this post but you did not respond to it except to say that I was in fact going off on a tanget:
Why do you sound so cynical and bitter? God is righteous, holy, and just. It is abundantly indicative in your tone that you don't know God personally, which is perhaps why I perceive that you sound so hurt or frustrated with God. You seem to want to know and understand God but your anger (which stems from your lack of knowledge about God's ways) is an impediment for you. God can and will get rid of your anger if you allow Him to love you. Maybe your earthly father failed you in some way and perhaps this is the root of your rancor towards God. But God is not your problem, I assure you of this. God has never done anything to you but good. Your enemies are satan, demons, and other people who are not fully submitted to God.
God and His ways are so past finding out (i.e. they are so profoundly mysterious except where God wills and chooses to make His ways known) that one illustration is not sufficient to adequately describe His multi-faceted ways (remember God is infinite). I used the parent-child analogy to describe the guiltlessness of God in terms of His children's behavior. But I have only dealt with one aspect of God's dealings with His creation. But you see God wears more than one hat as it were. God is not just our true Father, but He is our Judge as well. Hence, God must judge sinners for their sins. God is righteous and just. He does not take bribes and cannot be persuaded to adjudicate corruptly. That is why Adam and Eve died because they were separated from God (i.e. the Source of all life). God will not violate your free will. As much as God wants you to be saved and spend eternity at His feet learning from Him all of His mysteries, He will not override your free will. Did your parents not give you options as you grew up in their home? They gave you certain parameters (if they were good parents). They didn't just say, "Alright son, you are two years old now, you are on your own. We will let you do your own thing because we don't want to force you to do something that you don't want to do. We don't want to hinder or repress you in any way. We want you to prosper and flourish, so express yourself as you see fit." I am sure that is what your parents told you. No, that is not what they told you. I am positive that your parents laid down some ground rules to guide you and keep you headed in the right direction. So I said all that to say this: God has set boundaries for His creation but there is still ample room within the scope of God's will for us to express ourselves and be full of joy unspeakable and full of glory. Furthermore, God has to allow every single person to exercise their free will. As a result, there are times when in the process of folks exercising their free will, that what they do encroaches on our lives personally. For example, has someone ever cut you off in traffic? Has someone ever spread malicious rumors about you behind your back? Have you ever been in a physical altercation? Have you ever had something stolen from you? Has someone ever verbally abused you? These are all examples of other people exercising their free will even to your detriment. But here is the good news: God will protect you from certain things that people attempt to do against you. Now, why some people are protected and others are not, is all in the wisdom, purpose, plan, and counsel of Almighty God. Some people believe that if they just have enough faith that they will not go through certain things. This is partly true. But friend, there are just some things that not even faith will override because it may just be the will of God for you to experience that. For instance, we all have an appointment with death. So when that time comes there is nothing we can do to escape it. Am I going off on a tangent here?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The last time you sounded this cynical and bitter I wrote this post but you did not respond to it: [/COLOR][/I]
Actually I did respond to it in the first thread you posted it in. Then you posted it again in another thread and I said it is a tangent to post something off topic from another thread that I have already responded to. And now you post it here and I tell you again that I responded to it first time.
And it doesn't change the fact it is a valid point.
Is it, or is it not, easy to be sin free when one removes themselves the powers of the law? Is it not all to simple to be perfect when one refuses to let ones actions define them?
Did God, or did God not, kill? Yes. But this doesn't reflect badly as he has a shield of "I am good, ergo if I kill it is also good, and as such no murder. Thus I am still sinless."
Is that right? Do you believe there are men who should be above man made laws? If not by extension is it right we have the concept of a God above its own laws? That is the image of a dictator (I am the king, the law is not high enough to touch me.)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Actually I did respond to it in the first thread you posted it in. Then you posted it again in another thread and I said it is a tangent to post something off topic from another thread that I have already responded to. And now you post it here and I tell you again that I responded to it first time.And it doesn't change the fact it is a valid point.
Is it, or is it not, easy to be sin free when one removes themselves the powers of the law? Is it not all to simple to be perfect when one refuses to let ones actions define them?
Did God, or did God not, kill? Yes. But this doesn't reflect badly as he has a shield of "I am good, ergo if I kill it is also good, and as such no murder. Thus I am still sinless."
Is that right? Do you believe there are men who should be above man made laws? If not by extension is it right we have the concept of a God above its own laws? That is the image of a dictator (I am the king, the law is not high enough to touch me.)
Re-read my post it should clear up your ill-logical conceptions.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Re-read my post it should clear up your ill-logical conceptions.
Your post does not deal with the question I raise, it simply glosses over it with the catch all "God is to great for us to understand, so just go with it."
Give me you answer - yes or no - to the following.
As a human do you believe it right that men should be above man-made laws?
As a human do you believe a Dictator is glory incarnate because he rules on the concept "I am the king, no law is high enough to touch me, thus I am perfect"?
As a human do you believe it is correct then that we have the concept of a God whose sinlessness is based upon the fact it says it is above everything?
Has God killed?
Was it murder?
If no then how come it is not murder? Was it not premeditated? Was it not killing of people incapable of defending themselves?
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Your post does not deal with the question I raise, it simply glosses over it with the catch all "God is to great for us to understand, so just go with it."Give me you answer - yes or no - to the following.
As a human do you believe it right that men should be above man-made laws?
As a human do you believe a Dictator is glory incarnate because he rules on the concept "I am the king, no law is high enough to touch me, thus I am perfect"?
As a human do you believe it is correct then that we have the concept of a God whose sinlessness is based upon the fact it says it is above everything?
Has God killed?
Was it murder?
If no then how come it is not murder? Was it not premeditated? Was it not killing of people incapable of defending themselves?
Here is what I told Lana concening this similar subject:
Originally posted by Lana
In other words, you cannot answer so you are making it out to be my fault.Dodging the questions. Just as I called it.
I knew I was correct in deeming this not worth any time or effort.
God is sovereign Lana. You, me, and everyone else are not. God is Judge of all the earth, it is to Him that all people will answer for their sins, not the other way around. So having said all of that, God can arbitrarily choose to bring someone's life to an end in punishment for sin. It is His prerogative (i.e. exclusive right).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Here is what I told Lana concening this similar subject:God is sovereign Lana. You, me, and everyone else are not. God is Judge of all the earth, it is to Him that all people will answer for their sins, not the other way around. So having said all of that, God can arbitrarily choose to bring someone's life to an end in punishment for sin. It is His prerogative.
Not an answer to the rather simple questions I posed, and not truly dealing with the questions I asked.
Simple - Is a king who claims not to be bound by the laws pure because he can never be charged with a crime? YES/NO
Is a king who claims not to be bound by the laws pure because he can never be charged with a crime? YES/NO
Were the Children of Egypt deserving of death? YES/NO
Did God commit murder by killing them? YES/NO
Do you realise that murder with perceived cause is still classified as murder, though the cause acts as a mitigating factor? YES/NO
Has God done things that if done by a human would classify as a sin? YES/NO
In conclusion - if God didn't have the "I'm above the law" clause would he still be sinless? YES/NO
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But thank God that He cannot lie, is not a man that He should lie, and that it is impossible for God to lie! Hallelujah! God is holy! God is righteous! God is just! God is compassionate! God is lovingkind! God is merciful! God is Love (personified)!
If God is all of those things, why does He allow evil to exist? If He is all-powerful (omnipotent), that is.
"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. ... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. ... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?"
~Epicurus