Originally posted by JesusIsAliveAnd you actually believe that? Mate, religion is NOT fact. It's a bunch of shit people believe because they're too afraid to think for themselves. And you're the worst one.
But God loves you and so do I [with Christian love, don't get it twisted] in Jesus Name.[b]John 3:15-17
15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[a] have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.Ephesians 2:3-5
3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),1 John 4:8
He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.1 John 4:10
In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.1 John 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love,
and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.This is the most outstanding difference between the God of the Bible (Jesus Christ) and the gods of Islam, Sikhism, Hinduism, and the like. The God of the Bible is love. Love is a Person--Jesus the Christ. [/B]
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
A politician is not God and God is not a politician. It does not matter what I think. Friend, I do not know why you have such a hard time with this. If it is in the Bible and within my scope of answering then I will. But remember, I take my orders from Jesus Christ not you so don't get upset with me if I choose not to answer certain questions.
So Jesus called you on the phone and said "Whatever you do JIA, don't answer those questions Imperial asked, even the ones to do with humans."
And I have a hard time of nothing, I just find inherent humor in the fact you refuse to answer questions.
You feel personally fine quoting to the point of nausea all the good stuff, going on about fools and Antichrists and paranoia and the rest but the moment anyone asks for something deeper you clam up. How you expect people to find security and belonging with a God whose followers act like CEO's who have been caught with their fingers in the till is beyond me. "I refuse to answer that on the grounds it might incriminate me. My lawyer (Jesus) says so." It is far more admirable to deal with the hard questions, but you refuse to even deal with the simple ones.
You wonder why so few are turning to God these days? Because so many of his followers are still stuck with the medieval mindset of "Believe what I say, everything else can be attributed to God works in mysterious ways.
Is it right that can king can claim to be above the laws mad by man? YES/NO.Is a king who claims not to be bound by the laws pure because he can never be charged with a crime? YES/NO
Were the Children of Egypt deserving of death? YES/NO
Did God commit murder by killing them? YES/NO
Do you realise that murder with perceived cause is still classified as murder, though the cause acts as a mitigating factor? YES/NO
Has God done things that if done by a human would classify as a sin? YES/NO
In conclusion - if God didn't have the "I'm above the law" clause would he still be sinless? YES/NO
Maybe I should but that in my signature...
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
So Jesus called you on the phone and said "Whatever you do JIA, don't answer those questions Imperial asked, even the ones to do with humans."And I have a hard time of nothing, I just find inherent humor in the fact you refuse to answer questions.
You feel personally fine quoting to the point of nausea all the good stuff, going on about fools and Antichrists and paranoia and the rest but the moment anyone asks for something deeper you clam up. How you expect people to find security and belonging with a God whose followers act like CEO's who have been caught with their fingers in the till is beyond me. "I refuse to answer that on the grounds it might incriminate me. My lawyer (Jesus) says so." It is far more admirable to deal with the hard questions, but you refuse to even deal with the simple ones.
You wonder why so few are turning to God these days? Because so many of his followers are still stuck with the medieval mindset of "Believe what I say, everything else can be attributed to God works in mysterious ways.
Maybe I should but that in my signature...
I have answered countless questions from many a forum member but there are times when I choose not to answer (for the reasons that I gave not the re-characterized reasons that you provided). Are you trying to put me on a guilt trip pal, friend, ace boon coon? It sure seems like it. I reserve the right to answer what I will to answer and what I will not to answer. It is that simple.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I have answered countless questions from many a forum member but there are times when I choose not to answer (for the reasons that I gave not the re-characterized reasons that you provided). Are you trying to put me on a guilt trip pal, friend, ace boon coon? It sure seems like it. I reserve the right to answer what I will to answer and what I will not to answer. It is that simple.
Your "answers" are usually only ever given when it gives you the chance to extol the virtue of your religion and your God. When any question comes up that might reflect otherwise on them you refuse to answer.
The way you can avoid this? Don't make statements you don't want questioned. Post, but remember people will ask questions where questions are justified.
I just find it funny, once again, that you can post more then six posts justifying you refusal to answer but can't take the time (I tried it, less then half minute) to answer a series of yes/no questions.
All you are doing really is reaffirming that I have a point. I have raised an issue that is less then religiously sound and you can find no way of answering and keeping the whole "sunshine and lollipops" attitude going with how you present your God. You believe it will either reflect badly on God or yourself, and thus you fall back on the odd "I am Biblically required not to answer questions of this nature." Theodicy is an issue.
Is it right that can king can claim to be above the laws mad by man? YES/NO.Is a king who claims not to be bound by the laws pure because he can never be charged with a crime? YES/NO
Were the Children of Egypt deserving of death? YES/NO
Did God commit murder by killing them? YES/NO
Do you realise that murder with perceived cause is still classified as murder, though the cause acts as a mitigating factor? YES/NO
Has God done things that if done by a human would classify as a sin? YES/NO
In conclusion - if God didn't have the "I'm above the law" clause would he still be sinless? YES/NO
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Your "answers" are usually only ever given when it gives you the chance to extol the virtue of your religion and your God. When any question comes up that might reflect otherwise on them you refuse to answer.The way you can avoid this? Don't make statements you don't want questioned. Post, but remember people will ask questions where questions are justified.
I just find it funny, once again, that you can post more then six posts justifying you refusal to answer but can't take the time (I tried it, less then half minute) to answer a series of yes/no questions.
All you are doing really is reaffirming that I have a point. I have raised an issue that is less then religiously sound and you can find no way of answering and keeping the whole "sunshine and lollipops" attitude going with how you present your God. You believe it will either reflect badly on God or yourself, and thus you fall back on the odd "I am Biblically required not to answer questions of this nature." Theodicy is an issue.
Don't you just hate it when that happens?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: have you ever asked God to reveal whether He is true or not? Tell you what, when you have time, and there are no distractions and no one in the house to interrupt you, ask God (in your own words and in your own way) to come into your heart and make Himself real to you. You do not have to use my script just tell Jesus to come into your life if He is true. I know you said that you don't believe etc. But just do your best to communicate to Jesus Christ that you want Him to come into your heart/life if He is true and real.
*shrug* maybe I could give it a shot. The only thing really holding me back is my better judgement...my reasoning. But where the hell has that ever got me, anyway?