Then I'd really like to know where that info comes from. What you said sounds exactly like the comic. Terry & Alba fight Duke. You’ll be able to post links after you’ve been here for a while.
it was from wikipedia and that is why i metnion on my site that "it is said that he and ALba beat Duke together". i never mentioned it as canon cuz wikipedia tends to get many things messed up. More on that later.
It still looks like he just took advantage of a tired Iori. Otherwise, why not get him before he beat up on Kyo & Shingo?
yeah, well that's one way of looking at it. However, if you ask me, Berserk is still berserk.
Could mean that Hugo’s just got one hell of a chin. I think Ryu had to beat him to get to Oro though.
and yet Hugo and his whole family was beaten up by the Final fight cast. shame on Ryu.
Capcom has only stated that Ryu did the shinshoryuken to Hugo and Hugo survived it though it was a direct hit. techinically speaking since Hugo survived his STRONGEST move I don't see him putting him out with any other move. speaking logic.
the way I look at it is this:
Alex and Hugo are always pitted against eachother even in the intros of the game. Hugo is said to have made it to the wrestling thing because "of a good performance" in the SF3 tournament. the way i see it, Alex and he duked it out and after an impressive bout, Alex won (since they're both wresters and power houses). Later on as Ryu comes to US (canon) he probably meets Hugo on the way as Hugo was going around himself looking for partners. They fight and Ryu is pushed far enough to do the shinshoryuken. Hugo survives. Like i said if he survived his STRONGEST move i don't see any of his other moves doing the trick either. So either Hugo squashes him......or after getting the shitshoryuken they both call it a day. either of the two.
Honestly speaking though i find you as the one who is putting emotions before logic in a way. I tell you Ryu couldn't KO a side character like Hugo and you claim that Hugo has a chin. the real way to look at it would be "oh, so shinshoryuken, isn't really all taht great if it can't even KO someone like Hugo who is not even a god tier character."
also, Ryu now is as strong as the EVIL Ryu he was when he scarred Sagat. that shoryuken tore open Sagat (cheap shot mind you). so what's his excuse for not being able to defeat Hugo with an EVEN STRONGER version.
also keep in mind that at the age of 25, during the SF Alpha3 days, Ryu fought Sagat again as Psycho Ryu. this ryu had psycho power in him and psycho power is canon wise a twin sister to dark hadou. So you could say that, from this analogy, he was like Evil Ryu. And what happened? He got squashed again.
I’ve heard he beat Sagat w/the Dragon punch fair & square, but I’m not sure if that’s still canon. As for Ryu’s losses, look @ the people he’s losing to. They’d do the same to Terry most likely. I think Ryu losing gives his character more depth. If Terry is in fact undefeated, that makes his competition look weak more than anything else. In FF Terry was placed so high above the other fighters it’s ridiculous. & people talk about Kyo hogging the spotlight. @least Kyo can get his @ss kicked once in a while. Iori & Goenitz have kicked the s**t out of him. It would’ve been better to have Terry & Andy have to doubleteam Geese, the same way he had to team w/Alba to fight Duke in that book. When Duke fought Geese years ago he was lucky to escape w/his life(That scar on his neck was put there by Geese)
no not at all. Ryu's cheap shot is a CANON fact. most probably the guy who told you that is another ignorant Ryu fanboy.
As for the people he's losing to. Okay lets narrow it down. I'll mention all his landmark fights:
Sagat: very powerful but still human. kicked the shit out of him. Sagat was most probably defeated by whoever won the SF2 tournament (most probably Guile or Chunli). What's Ryu's excuse now?
Sagat: fought him as Pyscho Ryu. Got squashed again even though that version was as strong as Evil Ryu. What's Ryu's excuse now?
Bison: can't blame him.
Akuma: can't blame him for this one.
Oro: can't blame him again as oro had a draw with Akuma and wasn't even impressed. Nor was Akuma impressed (sheds light on Ryu's so called "powerlevel" now since he lost to someone that didn't even impress Akuma).
Hugo: a regular thug in the Final Fight series. Had his whole family beat up. pushes Ryu to the extent that he uses his shinshoryuken which still doesn't fall hugo.
Ken: someone who even Gouken considered inferior to Ryu (as Gouken and even Ken himself realized that Ryu is MORE skilled). he lost to someone less skilled than himself. What's the excuse? First time, yes, he was upset. What about teh second time. the fact taht he lost to Ken in SF2 is actually considered now to be canon.
Makuto: a little **** barely 16 years old fought impressively against a seasoned Ryu in his prime. err...yeah.
as for what you say about Terry and his overexaggeration? well that is a typical rant i hear. It's like saying Muhammed Ali is better than Rocky Marciano cuz Marciano never lost a fight.
Like it's his fault that he worked his ass off all his life since he was a lonely kid, training and getting beaten up by much older and seasoned fighters and surviving on the street without food and a father and became that tough fighter he is today. At least Ryu's fighting career began at the age of 18. terry started at 10.
First you claim that he isn't strong. Once you see the facts you say he's too strong. okay so here are a few pointers:
-In FF he and Andy fought Geese together for a while during the Real Bout tournament but Andy was no match and was defeated. Terry then went really pissed and fought Geese and eventually knocked him off the top floor.
-Yamazaki is stronger than Terry and that is a fact. It took all the characters of FF team to fight him and in the end it was only left to him and Terry fighting each other and still no dice for Terry cuz nothing was coming out of it. Yamazaki is god tier of FF series. He is so strong that he even stopped himself from being controlled by Orochi.
-the Jin Twins were both pummelling Terry. He was putting up his best efforts but was fighting a losing battle but didn't lose (unlike Ryu). jin twins were god tiers and even though they were double teaming him he was still not losing heart or spirit. It was only till Geese stole the scrolls taht he was able to defeat them. His persistence saw him through. compare that to Ryu being pushed to use shinshoryuken on non-god-tier Hugo and still failing.
-he was there fighting Orochi Iori along with the other strong characters. he didn't take him out single handedly.
as for character depth i think the fact that Terry is taking care of his sworn enemy's son is character even though he himself is a homeless vagabound.
the fact that he failed at saving Rock is also character (taking into consideration taht you consider a loss character). Terry failed at his life's one main goal and that was to stop Rock from taking the syndicate.
the fact that he is fighting for the kids of South Town so that they don't become orphans like him is character. He actually works in making the conidtion of South Town and those kids better. What does Ryu fight for?
The fact that he isn't so desperate to win fights that he unleashes his demonic side is also character.
The fact that he took every defeat of his team in stride is also character.
As for Ryu...if you think Terry's stealing people's thunder, what do you call Ryu easily beating the SF3 champ, Alex? From your anti-Terry logic isn't that too considered as stealing the show.
Speaking of which...what character does Ryu have?
Gouken gave Ryu the responsibility of opposing Gouki once his own power was surpassed by Gouki. when was the last time ryu actually mentioned taking that responsiblity. Ryu is a selfish prick. all he does is roam around with his three moves and act like he's some true warrior. he doesn't fight for anyone. his reasons for fighting every fight were entirely selfish. he didn't fight bison in SF Alpha3 cuz he was concerned about what would become of the world. he just went on with his "fight is all" theory. he also spent 7 years of his life trying to tame his dark side just cuz he was too desperate to win fights.
true warrior...i don't think so.
Ryu is the one who is put up on this pedestle of greatness by Capcom. When was the last time you heard SNK showing off Terry, Kyo or anyone else as the "true warrior". Ryu is flawless in terms of character. Terry, Kyo and all others from SNK have their flaws. Terry is a bit careless and irresponsible. Kyo is a slacker. K' is anti social etc. Ryu even comes to every place on time though he doesn't have a watch, lol.
the FF movie isn't canon so no need to start on it. And even there, Terry was getting his ass schooled the whole time in FF3 and he got a royal pounding by Krauser the first time.
why should Terry lose to Rock? this isn't Ryu. terry doesn't lose to someone who happens to be a good. Him losing to Rock doesn't even make sense. Also didn't Ryu defeat Alex too. Alex is the new hero and still Ryu took the spot light. And here you are blaming Terry for beating Rock.
it doesn't even make sense.
"hey wait Rock! i taught you how to fight and even though you use the moves of the man whose ass i've kicked all the way to hell and though you are also using my own moves....you still win!"
lol.
I gotta check them out you got a link to the particular faqs you use? Will they let you just type the address?
okay go to gamefaq.com
type street fighter and in FAQ look for this thing called plot guide by this guy called Tiamat. All the CANON info is there.
though you may think that i am coming across as rude, know that it wasn't my intention. sorry if you were offended at any point.
~Sado.