Originally posted by brainchild81
To beat Orochi? Yes. The others? No. The plot device is specifically for beating down Orochi. I don’t need to admit he’s a slacker. Anyone w/the slightest bit of knowledge of the character knows that. He’s a natural fighter, what’s so hard to understand about that? There have always been those among us who don’t have to try as hard. If you can’t prove the others are more skilled then your “didn’t have the skills to back it up” statement is nothing but speculation based on nothing. Let’s stop wasting time w/this one please. We have no idea how much not being focused takes away from Ryu. No huge gap was confirmed………………between Ryo & a NON FOCUSED Ryu. Perhaps that shows just how huge the gap is between Ryu and Ryu when he’s not focused. What’s so hard for you to grasp about this? That fight proves NOTHING @ALL except that Ryo trumps a non-focused Ryo.
Actually, a new Garou is in the works. I’ve heard nothing of a new B1 though 😆. I don’t think I ever asked anything. I said Ryo ain’t done nothing of importance in a loooooooooong time. B1 ain’t important to me. I’m not impressed if he was star in a game w/no other established characters. Wow. He’s the star when nobody else is around. Good for him🙂Supported by the number of KOFs they won after he showed up(000000.00)? Has a lot to do w/them appearing 1st.
Really? Every plot? What did he do in KOFXI then?
I forgive you. Those titles still don’t say “creator of Ryu”. Has anyone stepped up from them & claimed this title?
If he was fighting Shingo alone you’d have a very valid point. He is not fighting Shingo alone.🙂
Zaki it seems should be able to beat him, but we know SNK'd never let that happen. Geese? How many times has he fought Terry & how many times have he stalemated him? Never heard of Sakako. Who's lil bro is he?
1- We wer discussing when he first showed up...thats the Orochi storyline. The discussion wasent about the current Kyo, but the one as you put it : the slacker kyo.
2- And where is the proof that Ryo did more than just figth at the level Ryu was figthing? Nowhere. He even was dissapointed at the fact the guy wasent at the top. No huge gap was showed between a non focused Ryu and a dissapointed Ryo.
3- Key words: "B1 ain’t important to me. I’m not impressed if he was star in a game w/no other established characters".
How come you feel heated when pll bring the storyline slacker Kyo or personal dislike for Iori? And just for grabs, three characters of the game have been added in recent KOF`s. Gai Tendo? The main Boss? The young student of Kim?
4- Every major plot related related with every major game of that universe. He had plot importance at AOF. He had plot importance at FF. And he had plot importance at KOF. And at B1.
Kyo hasent done that much since K` and Ash stepped up either. And thats only at "KOF".
5- I cant say. I read once there was an interview of a single guy claiming just that in a Japaneze gaming magazine. I give more credit by knowing that the "main guys" of said team created and produced both franchises instead, tho. They designed and created the game as the whole, wich includes the characters, the mood, the way of gaming etc.
This is an issue that doesnt bother me at all. Its a fact the main creators wer the same. So "ripping off anothers work" its out of equation. What makes Ryo my fav from SNK its two things: The character`s character and devolopded design. Its character has nothing to do with Ryu. Hes not an Orphan. He lives in a more realistic setting. Hes a family man. He has a life. He has a crush. He has obligations he cant run from. He has an interesting original storyline at Southtown, etc.
Ryu is one dimensional in that regard as you can get. He never changes. (but i like him, still). The one moment he looks like having a personality its when his rivality with Ken and Sagat is pivotal. And all major "figthing games hero" have also that.
The design. Oh yes. He was never exactly the same as the "Sokotas" either. But now hes definatly its own man. His looks from WildAmbition to B1 to BattleNeoGeo to MI2 are simply badass. While i like him as standart KOF Ryo its as "old" Ryo/new Mr Karate from the original timeline(s) that he shines. Badass. Obviously your opinion differs. Its ok.
6- I know. Thats why in my first (or second, i dont recall) post i said if they do the correct teamwork together they take him. If HOWEVER each tries to take him for its own fame, Terry gets the chance to shot Shingo first and then deal with Kyo. Two people can figth one, but they dont have to figth as an oiled team.