Wolverine vs Daredevil

Originally posted by Muck101
You people are leaving out much of the advantages DD's senses gives him.

Originally posted by Muck101
1. sense of touch gives him balance, and agility.

Originally posted by Muck101
True, his agility isn't technically classified as superhuman, but it is on par with most superhumans.

Originally posted by Muck101
2. The radar doesn't just mean DD will know when the claws are coming out. 3. Hearing. The man can hear muscles contracting. He'll know when wolvie is going to strike, and where.

Originally posted by Muck101
Also, Im wagering a dodge from one of logans slashes fallowed by a swift billyclub strike to the nuts will hurt Logan plenty.

Originally posted by Muck101
And I could be wrong, but aren't wolverines tendons not coated with adamantium? If DD can shatter a DIAMOND absorbing man, Im wagering he can pop a few bones out of place.

Originally posted by riceroost
Wrong!

Wolverine 9/10.

You have to allow the Wolvy haters at least 1 win...even against weaklings like DD.
He may have more acute hearing, but Wolverine's sense of smell is more acute if I remember correctly. He was able to detect a fake Reed Richards in one of the Infinity Crossovers and DD was like, "Is his sense of smell really that much better than mine?"
HA! Pathetic.
Ha!! Nearly as pathetic as above.
Snort. Wrong! Except for Mr. Hyde I dont see any of these guys shrugging off hits from the Hulk.
HAHAHAHA!!! Too good.
Yeah, follow Cap's losing strategy, good idea.
No, he would have an impossible time doing it, especially since Wolverine is going to hit him first...and then DD will die.
Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The best example of a skilled martial artist using pressure points on a high level brick happened the first time Wolverine met Rogue back with Storm and Carol in the Pentagon.

It did nothing. Which is exactly how it should be. If Wolverine's pressure points and nerve pinches dont work on Rogue DD's shouldn't work on anyone with any kind of enhanced durability. And likewise DD's nerve strikes on Wolverine will be ineffective a split second after the damage occurs, while Wolvy's nerve strikes on DD will result in death for horn head.

Skill: Wolverine towers over DD. Way more experience. Not even close.
Agility: DD is human in agility. Wolverine has enhanced human agility, therefor he beats DD in that category.
Getting the Drop: How does radar help him get a drop on Wolverine? Neither one will get the drop on the other, obviously. Radar allows him to know the claws are coming, not get out of the way. Tagging DD would be child's play for Wolverine.
Not by DD. If Spidey can't tax Wolverine's OLD healing factor DD has no chance against Current HF.

Hmmm, I guess mine is too.
Who cares? Just his skills could wreck DD anyway. Add the abilities and it's just sad.
He will against anything DD can do to him.
No. Wolverine healed half a busted skeleton and complete major organ damage in SECONDS!
According to recent issues of Wolverine when his entire body burned away his nerves were some of the first things to heal. Dont bring real world medicine into a Wolverine healing factor debate.
Wolverine was not beat. He fell on a sword and the pain allowed him to break free of mind control that he had been fighting the entire time. Wolverine has punked DD pretty badly a couple of times.
I remember Logan being stabbed in the throat with a sai and fighting 3 elite assassins while ignoring the blade in his neck and beating the tar out of them all. Which feat holds more weight? Millar's (who says Cap can beat Hulk) or Tieri's?(one of the best Wolverine writers in the past decade) Gorgon also has super everything, none of which DD has. Dont compare DD to Gorgon. Thats silly. Wolverine was also completely fine with that sword through his throat. He was even talking. He only needed the help of shield agents because he didn't have the leverage to pull the sword out of the beam it was stuck in from his fallen position. He got right back up and chased after Gorgon. If Wolvy can do that a throat strike will do NOTHING to him.
Punisher's hand2hand is pathetic compared to Wolverine's. And back in the day he actually used to break even with DD in H2H.
Yes, while DD is tripping over his spilled entrails and Wolverine laughs at his "nerve strike."

"I take punches from Hulk you horned moron. What the heck will that do?"
Which proves Millar knew dick about Wolverine since Logan had just boinked the Native, Cassie Lathdrop, and was dating Storm at the time.

Wolverine can take anything Matt brings to the table. Matt is dead or near dead after a single strike from Wolverine. Kevin Smith said it best. Adamantium claws beat billy clubs every time.

Im not sure what to make of this post

some of it is semi-accurate, some of it is spooky

Originally posted by Muck101
You people are leaving out much of the advantages DD's senses gives him.

No I wasn't. You're the one who seems to think Wolverine is just a guy with claws. You know how the senses work right? He uses them, along with his sense of hearing and touch to sense an opponents moves so that he can effectively counter/dodge. Problem with this is its handy, but not so effective against a fighter thats not only superior in fighting skill but is faster and stronger.

Originally posted by Muck101
1. sense of touch gives him balance, and agility. True, his agility isn't technically classified as superhuman, but it is on par with most superhumans.

Hmm. I'll give Matt the agility edge here

Originally posted by Muck101
2. The radar doesn't just mean DD will know when the claws are coming out.

I know.

Originally posted by Muck101
3. Hearing. The man can hear muscles contracting. He'll know when wolvie is going to strike, and where.

Wolverine also has superhuman hearing.

Originally posted by Muck101
Also, Im wagering a dodge from one of logans slashes fallowed by a swift billyclub strike to the nuts will hurt Logan plenty.

Hurt? Yes. Take him out? No.

Originally posted by Muck101
And I could be wrong, but aren't wolverines tendons not coated with adamantium? If DD can shatter a DIAMOND absorbing man, Im wagering he can pop a few bones out of place.

Lol. For someone so upset that Daredevil is not getting his fair shake your quick to downplay Wolverine's strengths. His senses are almost on par with Matt's, he has more experience as a fighter, he's just as proficient with nerve strikes, is a hell of a lot more durable, and can take pretty much whatever Logan dishes out. Logan outclasses Matt in every physical aspect (cept agility), has an insane healing factor plus three lil weapons on each hand that can take Matt out.

Its a bit of hate and love when old threads are remade or bumped. We've been through this many times. At least most of us have.

Daredevil can beat Wolverine and Wolverine can beat Daredevil. I wanns say that its been mentioned that Wolvies bones are fused together. Thats totaly false. Regardless of what a pic shows. If that was the case, hed never be able to bend his arms, legs, bend over to tie his boots etc. Les be clear on that. His cartilage and tendons arent laced. Nerves and Cartilage would be considered Wolvies weak points if faced against a unarmed opponent who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman strength. DD via senses would have no troubles at all locating them. None.

Its been said by a couple of people also that Logan has better skills or is more skilled than DD. Now, with all fanboyism and bias aside, can someone HONESTLY say that Wolvie shows or have shown more skill than DD? Honestly now. Maybe a few times that show he has skills indeed, BUT nothing on a consistant level that says he more skilled. We may as well throw stats out the window here, cause i want this answered in truth. In all realness there may be 3 or 4 people who show to have as much skill as DD and show it regularly, and thats Iron Fist, Shang Shi, Elektra and probably Captain America. Taskmaster and Echo doesnt count imo.

Logan is fast and so is DD. In fact Wolvies even mentioned how fast DD was. Regardless of whos faster, it wouldnt be to the point where the other wouldnt be able to see the move coming at all. Les be clear on that as well. Logan very well CAN tag DD with the claws. I wont deny that at all. However, when people say "Once Wolvie connects its over." it just doesnt sound likely. Wolvie has connected and it didnt stop DD. A slash wont put DD down unless say its in the neck or something or its multiple slashes.

As most know due to that alone, ill give DD the slight edge as i always do. 6/10. Why?

1. Because Daredevil shows and have shown to have better skills than Wolverine.

2. Because Wolvie needs multiple slashes to take DD down and its not likely that would happen before DD can get off a nerve hit on Wolvie.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Its a bit of hate and love when old threads are remade or bumped. We've been through this many times. At least most of us have.

Daredevil can beat Wolverine and Wolverine can beat Daredevil. I wanns say that its been mentioned that Wolvies bones are fused together. Thats totaly false. Regardless of what a pic shows. If that was the case, hed never be able to bend his arms, legs, bend over to tie his boots etc. Les be clear on that. His cartilage and tendons arent laced. Nerves and Cartilage would be considered Wolvies weak points if faced against a unarmed opponent who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman strength. DD via senses would have no troubles at all locating them. None.

I agree with Logan having fused bones. Thats just dumb. Your point with the nerve strikes though, its not half as easy as you make it. Considering Logan is also well versed with nerve strikes and knows its one of Matt's preferred ways to fight he's gonna be on his guard

Originally posted by jrodslam
Its been said by a couple of people also that Logan has better skills or is more skilled than DD. Now, with all fanboyism and bias aside, can someone HONESTLY say that Wolvie shows or have shown more skill than DD? Honestly now. Maybe a few times that show he has skills indeed, BUT nothing on a consistant level that says he more skilled. We may as well throw stats out the window here, cause i want this answered in truth. In all realness there may be 3 or 4 people who show to have as much skill as DD and show it regularly, and thats Iron Fist, Shang Shi, Elektra and probably Captain America. Taskmaster and Echo doesnt count imo.

Because its common sense. Looking back at Logan's history we see countless examples of his skills, him training with arious masters even beatinf Shang. With Matt, there's no doubt that he's skill but most of his ability to defeat skilled martial artists come from the fact that he can sense what they are gonna do rather than him simply outclassing them

Originally posted by jrodslam
Logan is fast and so is DD. In fact Wolvies even mentioned how fast DD was. Regardless of whos faster, it wouldnt be to the point where the other wouldnt be able to see the move coming at all. Les be clear on that as well. Logan very well CAN tag DD with the claws. I wont deny that at all. However, when people say "Once Wolvie connects its over." it just doesnt sound likely. Wolvie has connected and it didnt stop DD. A slash wont put DD down unless say its in the neck or something or its multiple slashes.

A slash from Wolverine will certainly do damage though

Originally posted by jrodslam
As most know due to that alone, ill give DD the slight edge as i always do. 6/10. Why?

1. Because Daredevil shows and have shown to have better skills than Wolverine.

Huh? No he hasn't. He's shown that he is skilled and couple that with his senses he's dangerous. Take away his senses and he's not very impressive. Wolverine, relying on his skills alone has shown he's one of the best out there.

Originally posted by jrodslam
2. Because Wolvie needs multiple slashes to take DD down and its not likely that would happen before DD can get off a nerve hit on Wolvie.

If Wolverine is just standing there then sure Matt can get off a nerve strike. If Wolverine is actually fighting back, moving, than Matt would be hard pressed to take him down with a single strike. Daredevil is great an all but against an opponent who outclasses him, has a crazy healing factor and is more skilled than he is..well not even his senses can compensate for that.

wolverine wins this quite easily. Im not going to lie, when I see people put daredevil against spiderman, they seem pretty even to me because I have seen some agility feats that daredevil have done that is on par with spiderman so the only thing that i put above daredevil with spiderman is strength but daredevil make that up with his fighting ability but against wolverine he will go down very hard and might die during the fight.

Wolverine has fought the xmen 2 a stand still, fought hulk to a stand still, fought alpha flight, went against about every villian and hero in wolverine vs new york, fought at least 200 superhumans on the shield carrier, fought excaliber, fought against the fantastic four having thing crying on the ground, fought namor and beat the hell out of him, was weak while fighting captain america and almost killed him, fought the wendigo and defeated him, fought magneto and almost killed him. Now lets start with the names that marvel gives him:

1. Wolverine the best there is.
2. Unstoppable killing machine.
3. World deadliest man alive.

With all this said, this should be a walk in the park for wolverine.

Originally posted by carver9
fought magneto and almost killed him.

don't worry i DID read your whole post...but after reading that, i don't think i wanna pay attention to you anymore 😐

Originally posted by marvelprince
I agree with Logan having fused bones. Thats just dumb. Your point with the nerve strikes though, its not half as easy as you make it. Considering Logan is also well versed with nerve strikes and knows its one of Matt's preferred ways to fight he's gonna be on his guard

I do believe that Daredevil getting off nerve strikes would be easy indeed. Will he connect with everyone he delives? Probably not, but hes so presise with them, i dont think it would be as difficult as you make it seem. I dont think Wovie knows that it would be DD's m.o to go right for the nerve.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Because its common sense. Looking back at Logan's history we see countless examples of his skills, him training with arious masters even beatinf Shang. With Matt, there's no doubt that he's skill but most of his ability to defeat skilled martial artists come from the fact that he can sense what they are gonna do rather than him simply outclassing them

I never said that Wolvie doesnt have or has never shown any skill. Just not consistantly on the level of DD. Him beating Shang was hardly a fight. 2 panels was it? Its hardly conclusive as to what a real fight would be like between the two. Matt still has his skills without the senses. Theres been multiple occasions where they have been disabled and he had to rely on his skills. True he takes them for granted, but hes just as skilled MA's wise as he would be if he didnt have the senses.

Originally posted by marvelprince
A slash from Wolverine will certainly do damage though

I never said it wouldnt. Depending on how deep and where it is.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Huh? No he hasn't. He's shown that he is skilled and couple that with his senses he's dangerous. Take away his senses and he's not very impressive. Wolverine, relying on his skills alone has shown he's one of the best out there.

Youre speaking in hypothetical terms. DD does have his radar 90% of the time and ive stated that on a consistant basis, he shows to have more skills than Wolvie. If you take away his senses, he would still be highly impressive, being trained by one of the top Martial Artists in Marvel. I never stated that Wolvie wasnt one of the best. He just wouldnt be considered top 5 in terms of skill imo.

Originally posted by marvelprince
If Wolverine is just standing there then sure Matt can get off a nerve strike. If Wolverine is actually fighting back, moving, than Matt would be hard pressed to take him down with a single strike. Daredevil is great an all but against an opponent who outclasses him, has a crazy healing factor and is more skilled than he is..well not even his senses can compensate for that.

DD has landed nerve strikes while in combat. Hes delivered them while dodging his opponents attack. His opponent doesnt have to be still for him to get one off. The only thing Wolvie outclasses him in is durability and strength. All of which can be nulled. If you believe Wolvie has shown to be more skilled than DD then thats your opinion. The comics say otherwise though. DD's senses do compensate for many attributes that may be inferior to his opponent. Tats why he always do so well aganst many and even beats them.

"Best there is" "unstoppable killing machine" and the world's "deadliest man."

It is suppositions like this that make people hate Wolverine. Doctor Strange is a HELL of a lot more deadly than Logan EVER could be. Strange could cast a single spell and eradicate the entire human race. No mess. No fuss.

That said, Logan likely wins this battle. The two combatants' skill is approximately equal. We know this, at the very least, judging Wolverine's fights with the likes of Captain America, Shang Chi, and others. Yes, at times Wolverine will act like an idiot and literally LEAP into battle, but there are also examples of him being tactically and skillfully elegant.

He will also heal any damage Matt deals out to him. And this also doesn't even take into account Wolverine's superior physique. Strength and speed are both on Wolverine's side, even if agility is not.

That said, Matt's radar sense can act as a pseudo-spider-sense, AND he knows complex nerve strikes that, at the very least, could REALLY slow Logan down.

Could matt win this? Absolutely. The right combination of nerve strikes may be able to knock Wolverine out for long enough to constitue a forum win.

Will he win a majority? I doubt it. The two advantages he has over logan include agility and his radar sense. The radar sense being the primary one. Logan's advantages include his physique, his healing factor, and two VERY lethal weapons.

The latter outweigh the former, to me. Logan for a majority. Not 10/10, but a majority.

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
don't worry i DID read your whole post...but after reading that, i don't think i wanna pay attention to you anymore 😐

Youre right, Im just going by when he snuck attack magneto, not a face to face fight. Face to face against magneto, wolverine will go down HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD but he snuck him when magneto was trying to kill professor but the rest of the fights that i posted was face to face.

wolverine feels no different then you do when you get hurt. only difference is he recovers from it.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
wolverine feels no different then you do when you get hurt. only difference is he recovers from it.

I very much doubt that. Even if I knew it wouldn't kill me, I bet a bullet to the heart or a knife to the lungs or a sword to the throat would put me out of the fight.

I'm also pretty sure that if I were lit on fire, even if I knew I'd survive with out a problem, I would be in such excruciating pain that I wouldn't be able to keep on fighting.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Its a bit of hate and love when old threads are remade or bumped. We've been through this many times. At least most of us have.

Daredevil can beat Wolverine and Wolverine can beat Daredevil. I wanns say that its been mentioned that Wolvies bones are fused together. Thats totaly false. Regardless of what a pic shows. If that was the case, hed never be able to bend his arms, legs, bend over to tie his boots etc. Les be clear on that. His cartilage and tendons arent laced. Nerves and Cartilage would be considered Wolvies weak points if faced against a unarmed opponent who doesnt have enhanced or superhuman strength. DD via senses would have no troubles at all locating them. None.

Its been said by a couple of people also that Logan has better skills or is more skilled than DD. Now, with all fanboyism and bias aside, can someone HONESTLY say that Wolvie shows or have shown more skill than DD? Honestly now. Maybe a few times that show he has skills indeed, BUT nothing on a consistant level that says he more skilled. We may as well throw stats out the window here, cause i want this answered in truth. In all realness there may be 3 or 4 people who show to have as much skill as DD and show it regularly, and thats Iron Fist, Shang Shi, Elektra and probably Captain America. Taskmaster and Echo doesnt count imo.

Logan is fast and so is DD. In fact Wolvies even mentioned how fast DD was. Regardless of whos faster, it wouldnt be to the point where the other wouldnt be able to see the move coming at all. Les be clear on that as well. Logan very well CAN tag DD with the claws. I wont deny that at all. However, when people say "Once Wolvie connects its over." it just doesnt sound likely. Wolvie has connected and it didnt stop DD. A slash wont put DD down unless say its in the neck or something or its multiple slashes.

As most know due to that alone, ill give DD the slight edge as i always do. 6/10. Why?

1. Because Daredevil shows and have shown to have better skills than Wolverine.

2. Because Wolvie needs multiple slashes to take DD down and its not likely that would happen before DD can get off a nerve hit on Wolvie.

Finally! An Educated post!

Originally posted by Soljer
"Best there is" "unstoppable killing machine" and the world's "deadliest man."

It is suppositions like this that make people hate Wolverine. Doctor Strange is a HELL of a lot more deadly than Logan EVER could be. Strange could cast a single spell and eradicate the entire human race. No mess. No fuss.

That said, Logan likely wins this battle. The two combatants' skill is approximately equal. We know this, at the very least, judging Wolverine's fights with the likes of Captain America, Shang Chi, and others. Yes, at times Wolverine will act like an idiot and literally LEAP into battle, but there are also examples of him being tactically and skillfully elegant.

He will also heal any damage Matt deals out to him. And this also doesn't even take into account Wolverine's superior physique. Strength and speed are both on Wolverine's side, even if agility is not.

That said, Matt's radar sense can act as a pseudo-spider-sense, AND he knows complex nerve strikes that, at the very least, could REALLY slow Logan down.

Could matt win this? Absolutely. The right combination of nerve strikes may be able to knock Wolverine out for long enough to constitue a forum win.

Will he win a majority? I doubt it. The two advantages he has over logan include agility and his radar sense. The radar sense being the primary one. Logan's advantages include his physique, his healing factor, and two VERY lethal weapons.

The latter outweigh the former, to me. Logan for a majority. Not 10/10, but a majority.

absolutely, its doubtful that DD would win a majority, but its extremely possible that he can put wolverine down, and it would be a very close fight

Originally posted by jrodslam
I do believe that Daredevil getting off nerve strikes would be easy indeed. Will he connect with everyone he delives? Probably not, but hes so presise with them, i dont think it would be as difficult as you make it seem. I dont think Wovie knows that it would be DD's m.o to go right for the nerve.

Wolverine has seen Daredevil fight and watched him use nerve strikes on more than one occasion. He'll be on the lookout

Originally posted by jrodslam
I never said that Wolvie doesnt have or has never shown any skill. Just not consistantly on the level of DD. Him beating Shang was hardly a fight. 2 panels was it? Its hardly conclusive as to what a real fight would be like between the two. Matt still has his skills without the senses. Theres been multiple occasions where they have been disabled and he had to rely on his skills. True he takes them for granted, but hes just as skilled MA's wise as he would be if he didnt have the senses.

I don't get it. You have Logan has the skills, but he doesn't use them consistently so you doubt they're that great, but then you go on to say that Daredevil has skills even though he doesn't use them like that either?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Youre speaking in hypothetical terms. DD does have his radar 90% of the time and ive stated that on a consistant basis, he shows to have more skills than Wolvie. If you take away his senses, he would still be highly impressive, being trained by one of the top Martial Artists in Marvel. I never stated that Wolvie wasnt one of the best. He just wouldnt be considered top 5 in terms of skill imo.

And I say your wrong. I recommend you look back at some issues where Wolverine was depowered. You'll see just how skilled he is. Also you say Matt is one of the best cause he's been trained by one of the top martial artists in Marvel. What about the fact that Logan has beaten some of the top martial artists in Marvel?

Originally posted by jrodslam
DD has landed nerve strikes while in combat. Hes delivered them while dodging his opponents attack. His opponent doesnt have to be still for him to get one off. The only thing Wolvie outclasses him in is durability and strength. All of which can be nulled. If you believe Wolvie has shown to be more skilled than DD then thats your opinion. The comics say otherwise though. DD's senses do compensate for many attributes that may be inferior to his opponent. Tats why he always do so well aganst many and even beats them.

Please please show me these comics that show me that Daredevil is more skilled than Wolverine and then I'll accept you point. Based on what I've read however, Wolverine is EASILY in the top 5 martial artist in the MU. Wolverine breaks even with him in most aspects, but outclasses him in strength, durability and skills. Daredevil's senses do compensate for his lack of skill and enable him to last but alot of the tactics he relies on to win won't help here. Rolling with blows won't help against the claws, hoping his opponent will tire won't work since Logan has more endurance and nerve strikes against a guy who'll be expecting it from you plus knows how they work won't be very helpful.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
wolverine feels no different then you do when you get hurt. only difference is he recovers from it.

No, he has a very high tolerance for pain. Popping claws through your skin twice a day will do that for you

Originally posted by carver9
wolverine wins this quite easily. Im not going to lie, when I see people put daredevil against spiderman, they seem pretty even to me because I have seen some agility feats that daredevil have done that is on par with spiderman so the only thing that i put above daredevil with spiderman is strength but daredevil make that up with his fighting ability but against wolverine he will go down very hard and might die during the fight.

You must not no much about Spider-Man. Not to insult you but every agile thing Daredevil can do Spider-Man can do better. Spider-Man is way faster, stronger and much more agile. They may have had "close" fights before but Spider-Man has also embarassed him. Don't hate.

Originally posted by marvelprince

Wolverine is EASILY in the top 5 martial artist in the MU.

i digress

Originally posted by capt it up
Ya and you seem to forget logan ahs superhuman senses as well.

Ya? Logan ahs superhuman agility and sense of touch so a wonder how agile he must be.

How about a superhuman who has DD senses plus superhuman stats.

Logan reflexes and superhuman senses allow him to do the same thing. Logan sense and reflex even allows him to see bullets in slow motion.

First off you seem to think DD is the faster when it the other way around. You also seem to think a hit to the nuts would actually take logan out. You do realize logan has foughten while swords were through his throat. Logan ahs foughten well on fire and so on. A hit to the balls is nothing.

That was a one time feat and oh by the way logans bones are all attached to eachother.

I only want to say a few things to this:

1) DD's senses are far superior to Wolverine's. As much as you want them to be, Wolvie's just aren't in the same league.

2) DD is more agile. And possibly quicker/better reflexes OR as good as Wolverine. The guy bats away bullets with his billy clubs like it's his job.

3) A shot to the nuts has taken Wolverine out AT LEAST two times now in canon comics. I think it's safe to say that the severe pain a shot to the groin produces could put him down for a bit.

That's all. Just wanted to get that out there.

Merry Christmas, amigos.

If this would help I would like to say that im looking at a book that classifies both of the combatant fighting skills 1-7

Wolverine is at 7
Daredevil is at 5

It states that wolverine knows all the fighting skills on the planet and it states that daredevil know some martial art.

Shang hi his fighting skills is at 5

Its only 2 people in the marvel universe that fighting skills is at 7 and that is wolverine and captain america. Im looking at all of the fighters right now and its only 2.
Spiderman is at 3.
elektra is at 6
deadpool is at 6
sabertooth is at 6.
Mr. x is at 7
Gorgon is at 6
shatterstar is at 5
lady deathstike is at 6
black panther is at 5

These are some of the best fighter in marvel and it is classified that wolverine, mr.x, and captain america knows the best martial art in marvel it states that captain knows virtuall all of the fighting styles on the planet and that mr.x learned all of the fighting styles on the planet and killed his masters during combat training. Daredevil dont stand a chance against wolverine but he might do come in and win a few because hes no chump.

I meant to say theres 3 people in the marvel universe at 7.

Originally posted by carver9
If this would help I would like to say that im looking at a book that classifies both of the combatant fighting skills 1-7

Wolverine is at 7
Daredevil is at 5

It states that wolverine knows all the fighting skills on the planet and it states that daredevil know some martial art.

Shang hi his fighting skills is at 5

Its only 2 people in the marvel universe that fighting skills is at 7 and that is wolverine and captain america. Im looking at all of the fighters right now and its only 2.
Spiderman is at 3.
elektra is at 6
deadpool is at 6
sabertooth is at 6.
Mr. x is at 7
Gorgon is at 6
shatterstar is at 5
lady deathstike is at 6
black panther is at 5

These are some of the best fighter in marvel and it is classified that wolverine, mr.x, and captain america knows the best martial art in marvel it states that captain knows virtuall all of the fighting styles on the planet and that mr.x learned all of the fighting styles on the planet and killed his masters during combat training. Daredevil dont stand a chance against wolverine but he might do come in and win a few because hes no chump.

I meant to say theres 3 people in the marvel universe at 7.

While I appreciate the fact that Wolverine IS one of the top martial artists in Marvel, I'd probably put Daredevil on about the same level. Handbooks be damned. With Deadpool on that very same level, and Captain America a slight bit above them.

Then again, where do Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and the Cat come in? They should be the very VERY top martial artists in Marvel, yet Wolverine's punked Shang, and has beaten the crap out of someone who somewhat embarrassed Iron Fist in hand to hand.