Originally posted by Soljer
Also, Spidey's invisibility is hardly that. Stark described it as more of an active camoflauge than an actual invisibility.Not to mention the fact that the suit will eventually run dry of power, and when it does, no more invisibility for Parker, and Puck STILL wins 10/10.
Are we really using the "his suit's battery will eventually run out" method?
Couldn't we argue the same thing in Iron Man threads and such? 😕
Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Hell no, according to Innerhype, more or less everything charges his suit.Probably even air does it now. 🙄
Well, let's see. Spidey's outfit designed and built by Tony. That would lead me to believe that it has this feature as well, being able to charge itself from nearly any energy source.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Well, let's see. Spidey's outfit designed and built by Tony. That would lead me to believe that it has this feature as well, being able to charge itself from nearly any energy source.
Except they will still be sitting in an arena.
Also, just because Tony made something doesn't mean it can charge itself on kinetic energy, or the energy of the sun, or the energy of lame-ass arguments (The Suit would never run out! 😱!)
Fact is, you keep arguing stalemate.
It isn't.
EVEN if it came down to what you're arguing, Puck can outlast Spidey every single time.
Not that he'd have to, considering that puck is plenty fast, and PLENTY skilled enough to take Parker to school.
You're really just ignoring the fact that Puck WILL outlast Parker EVERY time.
There is no time limit set on the match. If no winner is decided in a day, or five, the match CAN still continue.
And even if it took that long, Puck would still come out on top.
The canadian midget (not Wolverine!) 10/10.
Originally posted by Soljer
Except they will still be sitting in an arena.Also, just because Tony made something doesn't mean it can charge itself on kinetic energy, or the energy of the sun, or the energy of lame-ass arguments (The Suit would never run out! 😱!)
Fact is, you keep arguing stalemate.
It isn't.
EVEN if it came down to what you're arguing, Puck can outlast Spidey every single time.
Not that he'd have to, considering that puck is plenty fast, and PLENTY skilled enough to take Parker to school.
Compared to Spider-Man, Puck's feats aren't that impressive. Spider-Man has beaten half of the Marvel Universe, and has fought and held his own against the other half - an exaggeration I know, but you get the idea.
Puck would give Spider-Man trouble, but not that much. Puck will only hold his own in this fight, because for some reason, Spider-Man can't use his most important weapon : his webs.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I hate to use this kinds of arguments, but Spider-Man has beaten lots and lots and lots of people who are much more dangerous than Puck.Compared to Spider-Man, Puck's feats aren't that impressive. Spider-Man has beaten half of the Marvel Universe, and has fought and held his own against the other half - an exaggeration I know, but you get the idea.
Puck would give Spider-Man trouble, but not that much. Puck will only hold his own in this fight, because for some reason, Spider-Man can't use his most important weapon : his webs.
Hold his own?
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Alright then. Enlighten me. Give me one. single. clear. method to victory?
Parker doesn't have his webbing, and it's an arena setting. Meaning..he..can...hit puck?
And when that doesn't work, he can hit him some more?
And when that fails, try punching him again?
This isn't Wolverine, Puck doesn't have a healing factor to get overtaxed. He's just invulnerable. Spiderman won't be dealing any damage. I don't care who Pete has faced in the past, it doesn't matter how dangerous they may have been. All the history in the world isn't harming puck.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's not like he would stop after 10 minutes of fighting. Or even a couple of hours. But really, what's he going to do? He keeps continuously giving it his all with no results. Spider-Man is all about fighting till the end, but really, what is there to fight anymore? Spidey's an extremely intelligent guy. I'm sure he'll realize he's causing Puck no harm at all. And then it's just a simple transition from "I'm going to pound you!" to "Well, I guess that won't work, looks like I'll just have to avoid him then". And since they're fighting in a featureless environment, there's nothing for Spidey's superior resourcefulness to utilize to defeat Puck.And why is all of a sudden "they're fighting to the win", when there have been PLENTY of KMC threads that result in stalemates when I'm sure they were originally meant to "fight to win". If these two both fight to the best of their ability and without CIS, then it's a stalemate. And you know it. You just don't want to believe it, you want Puck to win. I like Puck, but if they're both fighting to the very best of their abilities without CIS, then it's a stalemate, pure and simple.
No results? he has the power to hurt people far stronger and more durable than Spider-Man. He's been at this game A LONG TIME, yet you try to discredit experience. Once again did he back down from the Hulk or anyone else? No, basically your changing the characters personality to suit your needs. Once again Puck's an intelligent guy as well, your underestimating him once again. Superior resourcefulness? how so, please enlighten me.
Their wrong, why would they just fight to a standstill? I suppose I can make a Beak versus Hulk thread and it could be a stalemate if he ran away and didn't fight. That just? far from it. Actually no, I have proved as well as others without PIS or CIS, Puck can take the majority. Your keep ignoring Puck's abilities and claiming spidersense is all that, when it's not, and that invisbility is all that and it's not. Even Cap just beat Iron Spidey.
What else can I say then? It's useless.
It's like I pointed out several pages ago: this fight was made for Spider-Man to lose. Capt took away his webs (a most crucial aspect of Spider-Man), his newly-acquired stingers, and his usual environment (which I don't see how this would hinder Puck any at all), while taking nothing away from Puck.
But, whatever. I concede. Puck wins this stipulated fight.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
What else can I say then? It's useless.It's like I pointed out several pages ago: this fight was made for Spider-Man to lose. Capt took away his webs (a most crucial aspect of Spider-Man), his newly-acquired stingers, and his usual environment (which I don't see how this would hinder Puck any at all), while taking nothing away from Puck.
But, whatever. I concede. Puck wins this stipulated fight.
Webs yes could give Spider-Man the advtange, stinger wouldn't even work on Puck, well if it was Puck with all his possible equipment he would have his own glider made for him by Department H and use Nemesis Sword
Originally posted by MetalmanxDitto. I gotta read up on Puck. Puck's pretty cool & he could show Spidey how important nutshots can be in a fight. They work on almost anybody, although Puck's nuts would just bounce off your knuckles. Where's the Puck Vs Wolverine w/No adamantium fight? 😈
What else can I say then? It's useless.It's like I pointed out several pages ago: this fight was made for Spider-Man to lose. Capt took away his webs (a most crucial aspect of Spider-Man), his newly-acquired stingers, and his usual environment (which I don't see how this would hinder Puck any at all), while taking nothing away from Puck.
But, whatever. I concede. Puck wins this stipulated fight.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Where's the Puck Vs Wolverine w/No adamantium fight? 😈
oh Wolverine had adamintium, just not there 😎
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Wolverine #179 (Vol.2): Wolverine [Puck (Upgraded)]
A demon has attacked half of Alpha Flight and changed their headquarters into a bug infestation and taken control of Sasquatch and Puck. The reason the demon is attacking ALpha Flight is due to he wants Shaman's new apperentice, Earthmover. So Shaman calls Wolverine for some backup, and Puck makes him regret it
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Wolverine #172 (Vol.2): Puck (Upgraded)
Mauvais is mad crazy and wants to get revenge against the Gods of the Artic since they have ruined his plans multiple times. So he creates a barrier blocking the gods from this world using the bodies he killed from a tv show [Survivor up North]. Mauvais summons demons on the same level of Wendigo, but that doesn’t phase Puck
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Wolverine172-09.jpg
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Originally posted by Grimm22
Um, no 😐Puck is far more skilled, smarter, faster, and tougher than Spidey
Err...no.
While I concede to the fact that Puck wins this highly-stipulated match, I can't allow this to be said.
Puck is more skilled, having had training from Department H.
Smarter? Doubtful. Peter's got that one.
Faster? Apparently they exhibit the same speed. Nice try. Though honestly, I've yet to see Puck pull of a speed feat of this calibur yet (see attachment).
Tougher? Eh. Debatable. He's more durable, but toughness has nothing to do with durability.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThe Spider of steal strikes again 😈
Err...no.While I concede to the fact that Puck wins this highly-stipulated match, I can't allow this to be said.
Puck is more skilled, having had training from Department H.
Smarter? Doubtful. Peter's got that one.
Faster? Apparently they exhibit the same speed. Nice try. Though honestly, I've yet to see Puck pull of a speed feat of this calibur yet (see attachment).
Tougher? Eh. Debatable. He's more durable, but toughness has nothing to do with durability.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
While I concede to the fact that Puck wins this highly-stipulated match, I can't allow this to be said.Puck is more skilled, having had training from Department H.
Smarter? Doubtful. Peter's got that one.
Faster? Apparently they exhibit the same speed. Nice try. Though honestly, I've yet to see Puck pull of a speed feat of this calibur yet (see attachment).
Tougher? Eh. Debatable. He's more durable, but toughness has nothing to do with durability.
The only stipulation that could win Spider-Man the majority but even then is not an easy win is webbing. So don;t bull that crap.
What? He's not more skilled from Department H. He was the one who was training everyone at Department H not the other way around. As mentioned he has been all over the world battling mystical and alien foes for almost a century.
Book smarts yes, but streets debatable.
Classic Puck even dodged Caliber's laser blasts that tagged Sasquatch easily. Dodged enemies such as mauvais who was easily tagging Wolverine and Wolverine has repeatedly kept up with Parker.
Not really? classic Puck who was peak human was always the first to charge into battle even against opponents who easily outclassed him. When he was nearly killed when he was just a dwarf, he got out of the hospital bed busted a drug ring and in another incident went against Omega.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Book smarts yes, but streets debatable.
Come again ? Spider-Man practically lives on the streets. The streets, the buildings, the rooftops are his territory, not Pucks.
Classic Puck even dodged Caliber's laser blasts that tagged Sasquatch easily. Dodged enemies such as mauvais who was easily tagging Wolverine and Wolverine has repeatedly kept up with Parker.
As mentioned he has been all over the world battling mystical and alien foes for almost a century.
