To Surreal44 - Terry on wordplay

Started by calypso10 pages

When I look at COTBP and DMC I see two endings in each so, why would they change their method and style of writing for AWE.

Maybe it is an ending for W/E but not the actual ending of AWE. They have to tie up alot of threads in order to finish AWE satisfactorily for everyone. Clever devils.

But you don't know that for sure---that's your hunch. Whose to say if that is, in fact correct? Like I said, the ending could imply something completely different than what you're thinking.

It's your opinion but tons of people are taking that as fact. It's the blind leading the blind. No offense, but that's what happens when the whole story isn't had.

Also, his quote was meant to be very tongue and cheek. I'm surprised that you're taking it so literally Lovelyone, you should know better! You're focusing on that one quote and not looking at what he said before that.

How clever of us to have created an ending in which inevitably one side of the fandom is disappointed.

Do you not hear the joke? Of the fact that he's rubbing in the fact that they have a really good ending that no one has thus far been able to guess?

Let me just add something, Savysparrow I totally agree with you. All of us are like that, we jump in to conclusions without having the real details. That is a bad habit that all of us human beings have. I mean its always inevitable to try not to think of the worst. I have been situations were I start to think the worst of it. But at the end it doesn't turned out to be as bad as I though it would be. I'm trying to stay positive, but is inevitable to not think of the worst.

Originally posted by LovelyOne
Yes but he also said that the ending of the movie is being shot (before he replied to me with something different) right now and Johnny is not there so IMO its W/E

I dont really mind anymore though..J/E should have been together but I dont think it is gonna be

aw come on, keep the faith! im still hoping on a Jack/Will ending..... 😮‍💨

its my opinion and I'm entitled to it..but what I'm basing it on is a little more than internet info

and I really DO think they set out to make W/E and they are mocking their own mistake because now J/e is a phenomena: 1 billion..again CotBP had special effects..it had various other things goin on but it didnt get to 1 billion.

the only thing that could have possible made movie 2 get 1 billion is J/E IMO..they realised this IMO

I think it's sad that J/E's greatest defender has now become it's greatest critic but you're entittled to feel how you feel. Nothing that I can say or do will make you change your mind. Though, I will say that you've claimed to know a little of what was going on for a while, and still you shipped J/E with more conviction than a lot of us--so that tells me that you didn't believe the whole story or didn't know it up until yesterday.

Whew, I think I need a break for a while. Things are too heavy on the board and it is a gorgeous day outside.

Keep your spirits up friends. I'll bet you money that we'll get thrown a bone.

I'm not its critic. I still believe in it I still think its the relationship that should be..It needs to be there if AWE is to even get close to 1 billion.

but I'm just fed up with putting all my faith into something and then having my heart ripped out when I find out new things that dont point towards it.

Iv'e been feeling like it for a while but now that Terry said that its what took the donut.

And still you shipped J/E. Why? If you've known all along, or have this mysterious info, why did you ship them with such passion?

because I thought the ending might still be changed and not "set in stone" as he said.

Its being shot right now. The last scene being shot he said. Jack is not there its only Elizabeth and Will..IMO its going to be their ending.

Just for a shred of hope here
what if
they are shooting the W/E ending
but they have already shot the ending of the movie, It may be somthing totaly different that what we are all thinking

If Will Dies maybe the final scene is Her telling him goodbye

I do not think it will be a W/E ending, Jack has to be in the final scene, it may be that the final sceen with Jack and iz has already been shot and will be editied in for the ending??

It's a movie! Seriously, is anyone not going to see it if they "know" it's going to end a certain way? Like someone pointed out before, the writers are also responsible for Shrek, and Shrek was full of surprises and unconventionalism. So far, POTC has been the same way. These are nonconformist writers that dug themselves into a hole by establishing a couple (W/E) and then all of a sudden playing with the idea of changing it to J/E through subtle changes in symbolism and character development. The same thing could happen again! They are unpredictable and they love to taunt and entice. Get over all this "information." Remember when we all thought Liz would die? Remember when we all thought Will would die? Who's to say this is how it's going to be? Nothing can be known for certain yet. Just appreciate the fact we have another Jack movie coming.

I'm not getting this from mere info on the internet.

There are other reasons why I'm feeling in doubt...ones that are far more convincing than internet rumors and random info.

Just to get that across. I'm not one of these people to believe rumors on the internet..I'm not basing all I say on that and that alone.

Here, here!

Not to mention, even if the couple ship doesn't turn out the way people expected, isn't there still going to be a great movie to see? Absolutely!

I'm actually more excited to see AWE now, even with the potential of the W/E ending.

There are so many other great stories to resolve, and, as willofthewhisp said: it's got Jack in it. How can you not love a movie like that?

I agree
I am a total J/E shipper
bu I cant wait for the movie, just to see more Captain Jack! Lets all just chill for a while, seems like evryday we have a new piece of news and we all get bent out of shape and start to change our minds. lets just have fun with this and not be so serious

LovleyOne> do not loose Hope, every theroy and point you have made on these boards have made perfect sence. T&T are not going to tell us, or mush less anyone anything about the ending of the movie, or anything about the movie, lets have some rum and chill girls🙂

Originally posted by shannstar79
I agree
I am a total J/E shipper
bu I cant wait for the movie, just to see more Captain Jack! Lets all just chill for a while, seems like evryday we have a new piece of news and we all get bent out of shape and start to change our minds. lets just have fun with this and not be so serious

LovleyOne> do not loose Hope, every theroy and point you have made on these boards have made perfect sence. T&T are not going to tell us, or mush less anyone anything about the ending of the movie, or anything about the movie, lets have some rum and chill girls🙂

rum party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *grabs the rum*

drunk

BRING IT ON 🙂

Right we all need to just calm down and breathe. And Chill out and take a deep breath! Everything is going to work out!

and guys, think about it. there are 3 very viable endings...

1. liz and will end up together.

2. liz and jack end up together

3. liz ends up alone.

and 2 of the 3 of those endings work with what we want--- cause if liz ends up "alone" we can always assume what happens in a year or whatever, right? 🙂

and even if will and liz end up together, WE will know that Liz and Jack carry on secret affairs. 🙂

Or Elizabeth could end up with Norrington. *smiles brightly* What? It MIGHT happen!

LOL^^^ woot!

aww norrie..I love his character..I really do

I watched his and Keiras commentary again and I have to say this cracked me up..when the little girl is speaking he says somethign like:

she has better manner of speaking than you do to Keira..... or something.

.made me laugh