There's alot of fanboyism here...
Yoda, Dooku and Mace were in their own right outstanding duelists.
Where does the PT is now the best Jedi Order come in? You take out the Masters and exceptional talents and you're left with Jedi using Niman, and Jedi that couldn't block 3 or more blaster fires.
How does this even come close to being the best Saber era? Given that Revan doesn't have as much knowledge on him, you cant say, due to the lack of knowledge, that Anakin is automatically going to win.
Sure we can, Seeing as there is absolutely no evidence of Revan's saber skills at all, and since conversely we KNOW Anakin is an amazing duelist, better even then Dooku (which puts him on the level of Yoda, Mace and Sidious). Then Anakin wins by default.
Revan's beat Malak, and a few crappy underling Sith. None of which have any evidence at all of being anything more then moderately efficient with a lightsaber. Revan was, in all likelihood, the best duelist of his time, but none of the people who he was better then have anything to thier name in terms of saber ability. Anakin on the other hand has proven to be the one of the greatest duelists of his time, only with him we have actual evidence of how good the other people we are comparing him to are. We know just how good Dooku was, we know how good Mace Windu was, we know how amazing Yoda was. There's actual narrative, evidence, quotes and the like to back it up. Malak has nothing to his name, nor did anyone Revan beat. (in terms of lightsaber prowess)
In a force battle its a different story. Revan would effectively smash Anakin up. In a lightsaber battle though, Anakin is a proven master duelist, Revan isn't.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Don't pretend to know what appeal to majority is. You've already proven yourself to be a dumbass. Anakin>Dooku according to the movies, the novelization, and pure common sense.
😆 Hilarious stuff.
Feel free to post one idiotic thing I've said. Wait you can't can you, that's what I thought.
Originally posted by Deception
There's alot of fanboyism here...Yoda, Dooku and Mace were in their own right outstanding duelists.
Where does the PT is now the best Jedi Order come in? You take out the Masters and exceptional talents and you're left with Jedi using Niman, and Jedi that couldn't block 3 or more blaster fires.
How does this even come close to being the best Saber era? Given that Revan doesn't have as much knowledge on him, you cant say, due to the lack of knowledge, that Anakin is automatically going to win.
A few articles have named it, and Lucas himself has. I will try to find you the source. Try looking on AotC special features DVD.
Originally posted by Kadesh
I thought revan used soresu which can counter djem so as obi1 did,
You'd have to understand that Soresu isn't necessarily made to counter Djem So, but combined with the fact that Obi-Wan knew Anakin inside and out, it proved useful. Obi-Wan knew how Anakin would think, how he would move, how he fights basically. He knew him like the back of his hand. Revan, however, does not.
And Revan just possibly knowing Soresu really isn't even much to base a decision off of anyways. Cin Drallig knew Soresu apparently, so did Luminara Unduli, but Cin was shown to be in the process of getting owned by Anakin (and logic would dictate if Soresu can counter Djem So, he'd use it), and Luminara would undoubtedly get her ass handed to her by Anakin in a lightsaber fight.
Originally posted by Escape81
Anakin is near equal (or possibly superior) to Yoda and Mace in sheer swordsmanship. I'd put him above Revan.
Good noting Escape...seriously good. 😉
But Revan might be a lil' more skilled in swordsmanship than Anakin.
He is estimated to be at Yoda's level after all.
And realisticly Yoda is about 10% better than Anakin or slightly more with a lightsaber.
(Ive done ALOT of thinking about this.)
Originally posted by Advent
You'd have to understand that Soresu isn't necessarily made to counter Djem So, but combined with the fact that Obi-Wan knew Anakin inside and out, it proved useful. Obi-Wan knew how Anakin would think, how he would move, how he fights basically. He knew him like the back of his hand. Revan, however, does not.And Revan just possibly knowing Soresu really isn't even much to base a decision off of anyways. Cin Drallig knew Soresu apparently, so did Luminara Unduli, but Cin was shown to be in the process of getting owned by Anakin (and logic would dictate if Soresu can counter Djem So, he'd use it), and Luminara would undoubtedly get her ass handed to her by Anakin in a lightsaber fight.
Revan knows the following:
1. Juyo (Mastery)
2. Makashi, Variation of Tulak Horde
3. Jar'Kai
Thats it. 😉
Where is it stated that Revan knew Jar Kari? Concept Art doesn't count. As for the vision on Korriban, that wasn't Revan but a vision brought on by the dark side. And he only saw it fit to use one against four Jedi on his ship. However one could make a case that since it was the Exiles thoughts she possibly saw Revan using this form, but a master of it? Theres not enough evidence.
1) While there isn't any solid evidence, several things imply that Revan at least practiced Jar'Kai. First off is the concept art, second is the illusion. While I agree that the concept art isn't much, wasn't the illusion based on the Revan that the Exile knew? I haven't played it in a while, so I'm a little sketchy on the details of that cave. There are some things pointing against this though.
- In all of the story sequences of the first game, Revan is shown wielding a single blade...Not something Jar'Kai does, unless I'm mistaken.
- Once again, in the comic where someone has a vision of Revan (I think it was one of the Qel-Droma characters...) standing above the defeated Malak, he's once again wielding a single blue saber.
Of course, it's hardly impossible that he'd learn more than one style.
2) We have nothing showing that Revan got the Holocron. It's possible that he gave it to Uthar for prestige. It's also possible that he just didn't do it. IIRC, even Kreia said that nobody had any idea what happened to the artifacts of the tombs. Plus, did it ever actually say the Sith Holocron they found in the Tomb was about his saber abilities? Can't remember...
3) When was it said that he knew Juyo? I haven't seen much that his single-bladed style resembles.
Originally posted by VinCon01
3) When was it said that he knew Juyo? I haven't seen much that his single-bladed style resembles.
Good question.
At the beggining of KOTOR, we can see Revan weilding his lightsaber against Bastilla and the Jedi strike team in the first cinematic.
Revan uses the basic stance for the Juyo Form.
The Form he began learning as a Jedi.
Note: For further clarification, this same ready stance is utilised and mirrored by Mace Windu in the ROTS Video Game. Who uses Juyo in that game.