Revan vs. Anakin (RoTS)

Wow, the level of Bullsh*t being thrown around about Revan in this thread is astounding.

What bullshit? Read POD. Do some logical deduction.

I think he was talking about the lightsaber forms...

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What bullshit? Read POD. Do some logical deduction.

Originally posted by Dessel
I think he was talking about the lightsaber forms...

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
Good noting Escape...seriously good. 😉

But Revan might be a lil' more skilled in swordsmanship than Anakin.
He is estimated to be at Yoda's level after all.

And realisticly Yoda is about 10% better than Anakin or slightly more with a lightsaber.

(Ive done ALOT of thinking about this.)

And this:

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
Revan knows the following:

1. Juyo (Mastery)
2. Makashi, Variation of Tulak Horde
3. Jar'Kai

Thats it. 😉

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
actually that's pretty correct. Revan was a master of Jar'kai

and this:

Originally posted by Dessel
Well it's possible. He most likely was a master of it, that's probably the form he used in the Mandalorian Wars and what The Exile remembered him like. He also most likely received Tulak Hord's holocron, and could possibly have mastered his technique as well.

Need I go on?

lol hold up, how is what I said bs?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Revancon.jpg

Originally posted by Escape81
In a lightsaber fight? Yes, I'd wager Anakin, hands down. The PT Jedi Order = "[B]the best" in terms of lightsaber skills. Anakin was on par with Mace and Yoda (who are two of the very best - and likely the two best duelists ever for the Jedi). [/B]

This is why GL needs to put down the beer and stop making blanket statements like this. Because every time I look at this statement I keep thinking of all those Jedi who got their asses wiped by droids...

That somehow the Jedi of an era of lasting peace (other than a few minor conflicts) are somehow the strongest warriors in 25,000 years of Jedi history when they don't even show it just bugs me to no end.

Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
This is why GL needs to put down the beer and stop making blanket statements like this. Because every time I look at this statement I keep thinking of all those Jedi who got their asses wiped by droids...

That somehow the Jedi of an era of lasting of peice (other than a few minor conflicts) are somehow the strongest warriors in 25,000 years of Jedi history when they don't even show it just bugs me to no end.

Well, I am of a mind that the events that the movies are concerned with, are by far the most essential of the entire universe. In the grand scheme of things, the KotoR era is irrelevent. The PT and OT are the essential times of the movies.

So, why not have them be at the peak? Why not have the Jedi at their strongest? It makes the Sith's victory more sweeter.

Anikin wins, in everything, because Revan, gets aids, from yoda.

lol, jk

Originally posted by Escape81
Well, I am of a mind that the events that the movies are concerned with, are by far the most essential of the entire universe. In the grand scheme of things, the KotoR era is irrelevent. The PT and OT are the essential times of the movies.

So, why not have them be at the peak? Why not have the Jedi at their strongest? It makes the Sith's victory more sweeter.

Because they didn't act like they were the strongest. I mean it's been like a Pax Jedi kind of situation, yet out of the blue they get credited for being the most powerful? I can understand, I suppose since GL doesn't really pay attention to EU as it is.

Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
Because they didn't act like they were the strongest. I mean it's been like a Pax Jedi kind of situation, yet out of the blue they get credited for being the most powerful? I can understand, I suppose since GL doesn't really pay attention to EU as it is.

Perhaps. But I entertain and enjoy that the PT is the strongest era of the Jedi. I can only assume that Lucas shares thoughts similar to mine. The movies, the two trilogies, are the essential storyline. Nothing comes close. KotoR, NJO, LotF, the Ancient Sith, they are just spin offs of the essential storyline.

I assume he wanted to make this the prime of the Jedi as a sort of irony. He wanted them at their strongest so their defeat would have more of an impact. The recurring theme of "the most powerful can be defeated" has been repeated in Star Wars before.

It makes zero sense for the PT to be one of the weaker states of the Jedi, as was the taboo here on KMC back when Janus and Illustrious and co. were around.

It makes zero sense for the PT to be one of the weaker states of the Jedi, as was the taboo here on KMC back when Janus and Illustrious and co. were around.

It's set in stone insofar as Lucas said it, but that doesn't mean it has to be logical or even vaguely sensible; merely correct, ironically enough.

I think it is logical. I mean, they have had millenias on correcting their techniques, their force powers and defences, their saber styles.

Well the order back in the Ancient Republic did seem more powerful as a whole. I still don't buy all this 'Prime of the Jedi' bs refferring to the PT order.

Why not? It's stated by Lucas, that's as canon as it gets.

I think it is logical. I mean, they have had millenias on correcting their techniques, their force powers and defences, their saber styles.

For what? The greatest advancements happen during times of war and the honing of skills are generally perfected through open warfare; not silent contemplation. The Jedi didn't have any particular enemy to pit themelves against, aside from the CIS.

There were still techniques undiscovered, there were still saber stances to enhance, there were still force powers to learn a defence against. Since we know that the jedi of the PT are the best, we could assume that this is a logical explenation. ^

Originally posted by kamikz
There were still techniques undiscovered, there were still saber stances to enhance, there were still force powers to learn a defence against. Since we know that the jedi of the PT are the best, we could assume that this is a logical explenation. ^

Not really. Neccessity breeds ingenuity. The Jedi of the PT didn't have to improve anything, since they weren't fighting a great threat like those of the Od Republic.

I've read Path of Destruction. And I fail to see where most of this is coming from.

Lightsaber skills - It never says anything about Revan. Anything Bane learned he learned at the academy.

Force Skills - Bane didn't learn anything from Revan, and Revan's were barely mentioned.

Rituals - Bane learned two rituals which required having other people aid him to use. The Thought Bomb, a suicidal ritual that killed everyone in the immediate vicinity, and the Force Storm, which Bane needed the rest of the Sith Lords for.

Another note: I've seen a lot of people say that Bane learned the "Puddy Blast" as many have called it (The blast that wasted the temple) from Revan...How? It wasn't a technique, he was just throwing out raw Force power that he had been gathering. That's like saying that it's some technique they learned from Revan every time a Sith or Jedi uses Force Push.