Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Indeed I was, mostly about comments such as this:And this:
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Need I go on?
Thats not Bullshit, Retard. 😉
If you pulled your water-head out of your ass you'de know that. 😆
Mabye you need to stop trying to debunk the facts that other people happen to know like a lil' kiddie, and do some hard research.
It would do you some good.
You woulden't sound like an imbecile all the time. 😉
Originally posted by VinCon01
Another note: I've seen a lot of people say that Bane learned the "Puddy Blast" as many have called it (The blast that wasted the temple) from Revan...How? It wasn't a technique, he was just throwing out raw Force power that he had been gathering. That's like saying that it's some technique they learned from Revan every time a Sith or Jedi uses Force Push.
Well its such a simple power that pretty much anyone could do it thats why Revan gets credit for knowing it. I don't see whats so hard about just completely unleashing your force energy, utterly ridicules and impractical yes, but could most anyone do it? Yes too.
Originally posted by Deus Venèficus
This is why GL needs to put down the beer and stop making blanket statements like this. Because every time I look at this statement I keep thinking of all those Jedi who got their asses wiped by droids...That somehow the Jedi of an era of lasting peace (other than a few minor conflicts) are somehow the strongest warriors in 25,000 years of Jedi history when they don't even show it just bugs me to no end.
Considering the Jedi were outnumbered 1 to 100 I could see them getting killed. The Jedi/Sith you faced in KoToR weren't that great now were they? Considering Revan went through an entire Sith Temple killing them left and right with only 2 people helping him.
You make it sound like the Jedi from KoToR or any thing else would have done better in the arena. They were vastly outnumbered getting blasted from all around.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Considering the Jedi were outnumbered 1 to 100 I could see them getting killed. The Jedi/Sith you faced in KoToR weren't that great now were they? Considering Revan went through an entire Sith Temple killing them left and right with only 2 people helping him.You make it sound like the Jedi from KoToR or any thing else would have done better in the arena. They were vastly outnumbered getting blasted from all around.
Revan could do that because he was an exceptional warrior and Jedi Prodigy.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Considering the Jedi were outnumbered 1 to 100 I could see them getting killed. The Jedi/Sith you faced in KoToR weren't that great now were they? Considering Revan went through an entire Sith Temple killing them left and right with only 2 people helping him.You make it sound like the Jedi from KoToR or any thing else would have done better in the arena. They were vastly outnumbered getting blasted from all around.
Major hole in your argument due the fact that gameplay means Niman users of a peaceful era (other than your random regional war) outclass battle hardened Jedi. I'm not about to argue with GL, but that doesn't mean I think he is logical. Of course I have my doubts GL even knows about KOTOR or the Jedi Civil War since only the movies concern him.
I think revan takes it. Why? I think anakin was still not as strong as yoda or sidious by this time, yet, i think that revan, even if he was slightly weaker then sidious (in my opinion), he would be much close.
Also, i would like to ask something: i saw people saying that tge ancient siths were all stronger then revan. This is not right, when Revan talked with Adjunta Pall in his grave, he clearly said revan was superior to him, he said several times that he was "so strong with the force" and all that kind of stuff, and you could be dark or lightside user, in both sides he say and he is admired about how strong revan was in the force. And he was 1 of the most powerfulls ancient siths... Also, even the great Darth Bane was terrified about Revan's force knowledge.
So, i say that we shouldn't underestimate Revan. I think he wins, with much effort probably, but i think he would win.
Well, to hear GL say that at that time, Anakin was the most powerful Jedi, that seems pretty obvious that he is in fact, the most powerful. Does that mean he has the same level of mastery? No, does that mean that Revan or anyone else is just gonna walk all over him? Of course not.
Bane isnt Anakin, nor did he ever know him. We dont know what Bane would think of Anakin.
Without an example of the effects of an all out force attack from Revan, I believe Revan can't do enough damage with the force (especially lightside Revan) to avoid melee, which, I think we can agree that Skywalker would win in.
I say that because we haven't seen the effects of an all out attack with the force from Revan. Also, Anakin has a much higher potential(with the whole "Chosen One" thing), Revan, despite his exact age being unknown, isn't that much older than Anakin (I would imagine, maybe like... 30?), and even Count Dooku's force mastery was described as a "joke" when up against Anakin (Dooku has "studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners", in addition to what we see in EU and in the movies).
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Without an example of the effects of an all out force attack from Revan, I believe Revan can't do enough damage with the force (especially lightside Revan) to avoid melee, which, I think we can agree that Skywalker would win in.
I say that because we haven't seen the effects of an all out attack with the force from Revan. Also, Anakin has a much higher potential(with the whole "Chosen One" thing), Revan, despite his exact age being unknown, isn't that much older than Anakin (I would imagine, maybe like... 30?), and even Count Dooku's force mastery was described as a "joke" when up against Anakin (Dooku has "studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners", in addition to what we see in EU and in the movies).
Revan is vastly superior to Anakin Skywalker in the mastery of the force.
Anakin's great potential means jack shit when he never fully mastered it. And Dooku's case is entirely different from that of Revan and Dooku was actually testing Anakin but he soon realized his mistake during his dueling with Anakin, but it was too late.
Revan is more smart then Dooku and he never tries to taunt his opponents to unlock their hidden potential, like Dooku did when fighting Anakin.
Anakin will be slaughtered very early in a pure Force based contest against Revan.
Without an example of the effects of an all out force attack from Revan, I believe Revan can't do enough damage with the force (especially lightside Revan) to avoid melee, whichHe slaughtered an army of Rakatan with force lightning, I doubt Anakin would be able to defend against that.
[quote]I think we can agree that Skywalker would win in.
By default I guess, because we know jack about Revan's lightsaber ability.
and even Count Dooku's force mastery was described as a "joke" when up against Anakin
Dooku is firmly above Anakin in the force, wherever you got your quote from is wrong.
ROTS Novelization > your opinion, sorry. It didn't say that Anakin is better at using the force, just, it can't really help you against him when he starts going. The fact that Dooku's mastery is a joke when put up against Anakin means something.
By the way, when Dooku said the stuff about anger to make Anakin realize what he was doing. Anakin was starting to let his anger take over and beginning to punk Dooku, then Dooku told him to release it so that Anakin would remember not to let his emotions get the best of him. It was a good strategy, and still he ended up dead.
ROTS Novelization > your opinion, sorry.
RotS Novelisation isn't canon, sorry.
It didn't say that Anakin is better at using the force, just, it can't really help you against him when he starts going. The fact that Dooku's mastery is a joke when put up against Anakin means something.
And? Dooku's a pipsqueak in the force compared to Revan.
By the way, when Dooku said the stuff about anger to make Anakin realize what he was doing. Anakin was starting to let his anger take over and beginning to punk Dooku, then Dooku told him to release it so that Anakin would remember not to let his emotions get the best of him. It was a good strategy, and still he ended up dead.
Why are you telling me this?
How is Dooku a "pipsqueak" in the force when compared to Revan, seeing as Revan really has done nothing impressive, and "Dooku had studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners"?
Name a few things that we can use to quantify Revans power, please.
Solid feats would be nice.
Oh wait, nothing? Damn. It can be assumed that he is very powerful, given his defeat of Malak, knowledge of some ancient techniques, and how he was such a hero and all, but, assumptions don't cut it when he is in a versus match against someone really powerful.
Prove it. Advent tried, and failed.
It contradicts the highest form of canon on too many occasions to be considered canon, this is largely due to it being based on an early draft of the script.
Now even if (and that's a big if) the movie novelisation was canon, the fight scene certainly is not as the whole thing is a direct contradiction to the movie. and I'm pretty sure that's what JJ is referring to, so either way, I win.