Prayer Requests

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's very considerate of you, but you do know your prayers wont make a difference for those who do not beleive in your religion, right ?

You can pray all you want for Athiests/Agnostics/Buddhists/Liberals/Gays...whoever...to see things you way, but that will never happen.

All you can pray for is who obtains more power....

All prayers make a difference.

Whether or not a person I pray for believes in God doesn't change what God can do for them.

Also, I'm not praying that they "see things my way", just that they will come to experience God as a very real thing in their lives and that they do it "His Way."

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am a Buddhist and I believe in the teaching of Jesus. Does that count?

That when He was crucified on the cross that he payed the penalty for your sins?

Because he also taught that he was the Son of God and that he was here to save mankind.

You can't believe in some of his "teachings" without believing him to be Lord and Saviour.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
All prayers make a difference.

Whether or not a person I pray for believes in God doesn't change what God can do for them.

Also, I'm not praying that they "see things my way", just that they will come to experience God as a very real thing in their lives and that they do it "His Way." Do you believe He was the Son of God?

Sounds great, but how do you know what God's way is ? I have extensive knowledge with the Bible, and I just don't beleive it. It contradicts what I already know to be true, and also contradicts itself.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
[BThat when He was crucified on the cross that he payed the penalty for your sins?

Because he also taught that he was the Son of God and that he was here to save mankind.

You can't believe in some of his "teachings" without believing him to be Lord and Saviour. [/B]

Yes you can ✅

I certainly do....I also beleive he was heavily influenced by Buddha.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
...Do you believe He was the Son of God?

That when He was crucified on the cross that he payed the penalty for your sins?

Because he also taught that he was the Son of God and that he was here to save mankind.

You can't believe in some of his "teachings" without believing him to be Lord and Saviour.

I believe that we are all the sons and daughters of God.

I don't think the paying the penalty of for sins was part of the teachings of Jesus.

All Buddha are here to save mankind.

What does the term "Lord and Saviour" mean? That is nothing but medieval talk to me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe that we are all the sons and daughters of God.

I don't think the paying the penalty of for sins was part of the teachings of Jesus.

All Buddha are here to save mankind.

What does the term "Lord and Saviour" mean? That is nothing but medieval talk to me.

According to the New Testament, Jesus did mention Hell...but he never said it was for non beleivers. He said it was for the cruel hearted.

"Lord and Saviour" is just a term. It only means as much as you allow it to mean. We are all capable of saving ourselves, others, and improving our world.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Amen. We should all be praying.

For our country, for our elected officials, for a victory for values in the coming elections, and obiviously for all of the people who post at KMC that don't believe in Jesus.

Praying against psychos who think their hateful "values" have a place in public discourse.

Praying against theocracies.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Go for it. Praying is a much older idea then Christianity.

And just as futile.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
All prayers make a difference.

Whether or not a person I pray for believes in God doesn't change what God can do for them.

Originally posted by Storm
I don' t think God should be alerted to the needs of people, or begged, coaxed and pleaded with.

What is Pray? Is it begging a higher power for something, or is it focusing of the mind, the powers of the mind? I believe that it is the power of the mind even if you think you are asking a higher power.

Prayer is a personal moment between man and God, an attempt to communicate with your spiritual source either to offer praise, to make a request, confess sins, or simply to express one' s thoughts and emotions.
Focusing of the mind, the powers of the mind is meditation.

Originally posted by Storm
Prayer is a personal moment between man and God, an attempt to communicate with your spiritual source either to offer praise, to make a request, confess sins, or simply to express one' s thoughts and emotions.
Focusing of the mind, the powers of the mind is meditation.

Spot on. ✅

Originally posted by Storm
I don' t think God should be alerted to the needs of people, or begged, coaxed and pleaded with.

"Ask and you shall recieve"

"Ask and I'll give the nations to you."

Originally posted by Storm
Prayer is a personal moment between man and God, an attempt to communicate with your spiritual source either to offer praise, to make a request, confess sins, or simply to express one' s thoughts and emotions.
Focusing of the mind, the powers of the mind is meditation.

I guess meditation is prayer to me. I chant to find the inner self, the karmic voice, and then I communicate about my deepest desires.

I'm just going to pull up the bottoms of my pant legs and step over the muddy puddle that this thread could turn into. Especially if I say what I'm thinking.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm just going to pull up the bottoms of my pant legs and step over the muddy puddle that this thread could turn into. Especially if I say what I'm thinking.

What? Come on, say it, unless it's about me. 😆

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Spot on. ✅ The Lord says that you should call upon his name:

"Ask and you shall recieve"

"Ask and I'll give the nations to you."

1. Why does the lord say this? Because the bible says so. Why is the bible the word of god? Because it says so? One big fat juicy circle.

2. Besides, apparently god lied as Christian theocracy does not conrtol the world (thankfully).

It means for them to be saved, to be in fellowship with God.

All the nations believing in Jesus and going to heaven.

Nobody wants a theocracy Alliance, stop it man. 😬

"Ask and I'll give the nations to you."

"All the nations believing in Jesus"

Sounds an awful like a theocracy to me. Every government with the Bible as its foundation.

How is it not?

Because it's about souls, not senators.

It means ("ask and I'll give the nations to you"😉 that we should pray and we will see the Lord work in other countries to bring people to Christ.

As many as want to come.

That's it.

I have no idea how they would or wouldn't change the governments they live in, but that isn't the point.

The point is for their own personal lives to be better.

🙂

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Because it's about souls, not senators.

It means ("ask and I'll give the nations to you"😉 that we should pray and we will see the Lord work in other countries to bring people to Christ.

As many as want to come.

That's it.

I have no idea how they would or wouldn't change the governments they live in, but that isn't the point.

The point is for their own personal lives to be better.

🙂

If you want to pray of any of us, that is fine. ✅

I have nothing against it. I would rather a Christian pray for me, then try to pass a law limitting my freedom or social standing.

As long as you don't pray, "Please God, turn Lord Urizen straight" lolol then we won't have a problem. Either way, you can pray all you want for that 1, it aint ever gonna happen lol 😆

I just hope you pray for something USEFUL, like :

1) Find the cure for AIDS

2) Help the starving in Africa

3) Stop the animal abuse in China

4) Stop the human rights abuse all over the world

5) Put an end to Poverty once and for all....

Something that would actually MAKE A DIFFERENCE, instead of just praying "Dear Lord Jesus, please give everyone your wisdom so they can become good ol' Christians like me and hold true to conservative values, and please protect good ol' marriage ! YEE HAW ! AMEN !" lLOL

Sorry for the rudeness, but sometimes i find teasing necessary to make a point clear.

Indeed, many of those things are in my prayers now, and I'll include the animal abuse too.

Don't worry, teasing is fine.

A little off-base with the YEE-HAW!, considering I'm a city boy born in the Bay Area of California, and living just outside of Sacramento now, but fine.

😛

Oh, and I wouldn't pray that God make you straight, God made you just as you are and wants you just as you are.

I would only pray that you could experience him as a real power in your life, not the bearded figure who shakes his figure at you from the clouds and from an ancient book as many suppose him to be.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Indeed, many of those things are in my prayers now, and I'll include the animal abuse too.

I know your prayers have power. All of us as human beings have some sort of power. I just hope your prayers are more powerful than the negativity that many other people will desire.

And I am not talking about other Conservatives either....Liberals and Conservatives alike both come in good and bad.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Don't worry, teasing is fine.

I'm such a tease 😛

Originally posted by sithsaber408
A little off-base with the YEE-HAW!, considering I'm a city boy born in the Bay Area of California, and living just outside of Sacramento now, but fine.

I was kidding. I actually love cowboys. I was a cowboy stripper for halloween and I had sex with a cowboy once ! droolio

LOL- sorry bro....i have a fetish for the WEST !

Originally posted by sithsaber408
😛

droolio

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Oh, and I wouldn't pray that God make you straight, God made you just as you are and wants you just as you are.

That is probably the first time a Christian or a Conservative has ever told me that....I'm touched tear

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I would only pray that you could experience him as a real power in your life, not the bearded figure who shakes his figure at you from the clouds and from an ancient book as many suppose him to be.

I think that's a noble prayer. If God truly does exist, then hopefully I find him (or her)....remember..i used to be Christian....