What determines if a character is above Street Level?

Started by capt it up17 pages

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Wolverine is Batman without a belt and claws 😠

ya if batman had superhuman stamina, strength,reflex,agility, healing factor, senses and so on

Originally posted by batdude123
You consider a guy who can shoot optic blasts that are capable of damaging adamantium street-level?

he can't damage adamatium it is unbreakable.

scott phyisically is street level

Originally posted by capt it up
reflex,agility

I agree with the rest, but these two categories he shows feats often enough that could possibly push him in that level.

Originally posted by capt it up
he can't damage adamatium it is unbreakable.

scott phyisically is street level

Its unbreakable?

Like caps shield is unbreakable?

Like a celestials chest cavity getting tore open by invisible woman?

like thor's hammer getting cut in half?

If adamantium was "unbreakable" it couldn't be manipulated.

Btw. even Thor dented true adamantium.

and have you seen what artic vibranium does to true adamantium? just ask ultron.

Originally posted by capt it up
he can't damage adamatium it is unbreakable.

scott phyisically is street level

Iron Man is physically street level...
but you throw him in that suit of armor...

scott can level down forests...

Originally posted by batdude123
You consider a guy who can shoot optic blasts that are capable of damaging adamantium street-level?
*I* don't think he's street level I was asking it rhetorically. 😄

Originally posted by batdude123
I agree with the rest, but these two categories he shows feats often enough that could possibly push him in that level.

ya night wing and batman have some nasty agility reflex feats

Originally posted by rotiart
Its unbreakable?

Yup unless broken down a molecular level

Originally posted by rotiart
If adamantium was "unbreakable" it couldn't be manipulated.

It is made through many chemicals that have to stay heated at certain degree once harden how ever it can never be broken or melted again.

Originally posted by rotiart
Btw. even Thor dented true adamantium.

That was secondary

Originally posted by rotiart
nd have you seen what artic vibranium does to true adamantium? just ask ultron.

That broke it down on a molecular level.

But that would make it "virtually" unbreakable and not "unbreakable" right?

Originally posted by grey fox
A guy who can vaporise a whole forest and take out multiple sentinels. Hell no.

Shadowcat may have been street when she started but not any more. Ninja skills + Heart pull FTW.

What about phasing the arena floor? 😛

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But that would make it "virtually" unbreakable and not "unbreakable" right?

well it unbreakable to physical froce how ever if you can alter in molecular structure then it can be breaken how ever not by any amount of heat or strength

I had to mention this...

Theres a scene in the first episode (I think) of JLU- The JL tries to recruit Green Arrow (who just finished preventing a store-robbery), and his first reaction is to refuse- because while their battling godzilla-level threats, he was the guy who looked after the little guy. Took out the seedy and gritty side of a city. The thugs.

I think street-level is defined by two things- firstly, what kind of threats you battle, and secondly, what kindof threat you are to those you battle. This term would obviously not work in comics- both criteria would only fit some of the time, because level of threats of pretty much everybody fluctuates due to PIS.
But on KMC, where everybody fights to the best of their ability (though INCLUDING CIS), it works.

I consider Batman working on his own in Gotham a street-leveler. I consider Batman working for the JLA, coordinating attacks on the white martians non-street-leveler. Notice the threat he''s battling is quite substantial in one scenerio, whereas in the other, it's quuite less of a threat (though they in themselves are capable of exceeding street-level)

To finish my definition, I am going to clarify a major point. Let me use Captain America as an example- I realize that he battles major threats as a whole, things like saving the world, etc. But, Cap's method of taking down the forces of the Red Skull is different then Hulk tearing through hordes of soldeirs, or Ironman blasting through them, in a matter of seconds. Cap battles every thug- albeit some battles are very simplistic- but he does take a number of steps to take down a thug, whereas someone like Superman barely has to think about it.
You could look at it this way: Captain America is a high threat to every single thug. Martian Manhunter is a high threat to the entire operation.

See the difference?

EDIT: On a further note, this is not the level or threat of the POWERS. I believe I already capatalized that CIS was allowed- For these reasons I consider Shadowcat to be streetlevel. Her POWERS are a major threat to anyone she battles. But she doesnt go around heart-pulling everyone she battles.

I think it is that as well. Good post, but I feel it's the nature of the power too.

Superman fights great threats but he usually isn't considered a "cosmic" being, however someone like Surfer is... don't they both go in the depths of space? Don't they absorb energy (although Surfer's is greater)?

Originally posted by capt it up
well it unbreakable to physical froce how ever if you can alter in molecular structure then it can be breaken how ever not by any amount of heat or strength
So virtually indestructable, or until someone comes by and does it... so it's indestructable in some aspects as far as we know.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think it is that as well. Good post, but I feel it's the nature of the power too.

Superman fights great threats but he usually isn't considered a "cosmic" being, however someone like Surfer is... don't they both go in the depths of space? Don't they absorb energy (although Surfer's is greater)?

So virtually indestructable, or until someone comes by and does it... so it's indestructable in some aspects as far as we know.


yup

if capt went running around kill people I think he be a population thread. hell punisher went around kill every one he saw would be an even greater population threat then capt.

This is a great thread. we need a thread like this to see who is exaclty street level..
I hate when people think spiderman is street level, for god sakes, he can pick up freaking train cars..
Captain America in my opinion is a upper street leveler, he's stronger than wolvie, and batman..i guess that makes bas and wolvie mid teir.
Another "street leveler" that should be discused is deathstroke, his he street?

Originally posted by Priest
This is a great thread. we need a thread like this to see who is exaclty street level..
I hate when people think spiderman is street level, for god sakes, he can pick up freaking train cars..
Captain America in my opinion is a upper street leveler, he's stronger than wolvie, and batman..i guess that makes bas and wolvie mid teir.
Another "street leveler" that should be discused is deathstroke, his he street?

did you just say wolverine a mid tier street and capt upper? That makes no sense since logan has more powers and has greater powers.

also strength wolverine>>Capt

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I think it is that as well. Good post, but I feel it's the nature of the power too.

Superman fights great threats but he usually isn't considered a "cosmic" being, however someone like Surfer is... don't they both go in the depths of space? Don't they absorb energy (although Surfer's is greater)?

So virtually indestructable, or until someone comes by and does it... so it's indestructable in some aspects as far as we know.

Fair enough. Thanks.

Originally posted by capt it up
if capt went running around kill people I think he be a population thread. hell punisher went around kill every one he saw would be an even greater population threat then capt.

But the level of threat he'd be fighting would be harmless, probably terrified civilians 😐

Originally posted by capt it up
did you just say wolverine a mid tier street and capt upper? That makes no sense since logan has more powers and has greater powers.

also strength wolverine>>Capt


i wasent talkin bout powers. in the powers department, wolvie deffinalty has the edge.
Strenght wise, yeah i belive cap is stonger than wolvie..
i should do take it back, batman <wolverine in every catagory.

Originally posted by Priest
This is a great thread. we need a thread like this to see who is exaclty street level..

Thanks.

Originally posted by Priest
I hate when people think spiderman is street level, for god sakes, he can pick up freaking train cars..
Well if people go by who you fight, he's most likely street considering he faces the Rhino and Vulture, but then there are Venom and Carnage as well.

Originally posted by Priest
Captain America in my opinion is a upper street leveler, he's stronger than wolvie, and batman..i guess that makes bas and wolvie mid teir.

Well Wolverine has the healing, so I personally would place him above Cap.

Originally posted by Priest
Another "street leveler" that should be discused is deathstroke, his he street?
He's tough, but I don't know if I see him in the big picture of things being that high.