John Kerry implies soldiers are all idiots.

Started by sithsaber40811 pages

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You win, I misread.

Touche to you.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Well, I agree, he did not intend it that way but it was a stupid thing to say being who he is. Now the Right will kneejerk and run as far as they can with it.

Almost like what happened when President Bush used the phrase "Islamic fascists," amirite?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
You or I can talk about the dim-watts that turn that way, and we'd be right saying "some" or "a few", not "most of"

"some" or "a few" seems to contrast your earlier statement of :

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I'm not disputing that many drop-outs or low performers enlist to achieve training, direction, etc....

But my point is that Kerry saying that getting bad grades is no less an insult than it is an abuse of teh military commited by this administration, who have used backdoor drafts to keep soldiers there long after their term is up or pushing for military recruiters to mine inner city schools for cannon-fodder. If you want to get flustered over an insulting comment, then I'd expect you to get that worked up over insulting treatment. Keep dropping the minimum requirements to enlist and you'll get more and more people joining like the ones to which Kerry was referring.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Or three:

It was a general comment for the larger group of posters in the thread.

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@dirkdirden:

That's cute, welcome to the boards.

Also, you may want to change the word "board" in your biography to "bored".

thank you for the Welcome, If I changed it people wouldn't be able to ask me to change it from board to bored and I wouldn't want that.

Don't vote becuase it's fixed anyways.

in my opinion this is all really getting out of hand, the media is acting as if Kerry slit a soldiers throat and laughed about it. He stated his opinion, and most people took it the wrong way. If he wants to apologize then I believe it should only be to the soldiers and their families he may have offend. But he certainly does not owe any apology to Bush or the Bush administration. I honestly don't think he was actually calling the soldiers stupid. More like saying, Know whats going on for real. Or else you will buy into Bush's bullshit and end up fighting in this war. And even if Kerry meant it any other way I don't see how it can be any worse compared to the crap Bush as been feeding the American Public. If anything Kerry was being straight forward.

Now its time for the lot of you to disagree with me and Bash me like every time I state an opinion

Originally posted by sithsaber408
ZING!

You win, I misread.

Touche to you.

Vote Republican.

get bent, neocon

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
in my opinion this is all really getting out of hand, the media is acting as if Kerry slit a soldiers throat and laughed about it. He stated his opinion, and most people took it the wrong way. If he wants to apologize then I believe it should only be to the soldiers and their families he may have offend. But he certainly does not owe any apology to Bush or the Bush administration. I honestly don't think he was actually calling the soldiers stupid. More like saying, Know whats going on for real. Or else you will buy into Bush's bullshit and end up fighting in this war. And even if Kerry meant it any other way I don't see how it can be any worse compared to the crap Bush as been feeding the American Public. If anything Kerry was being straight forward.

Now its time for the lot of you to disagree with me and Bash me like every time I state an opinion


You aren't real.

Originally posted by Raven Guardia
the media is acting as if Kerry slit a soldiers throat and laughed about it.

oh dont be so melodramatic....after all fox regretfully doesnt have nearly enough time to spin it into that before election day.

Despite what some may think, we in the military aren't a bunch of idiots. Recruits who join the military are more likely to have a high school diploma than another kid their age, and they are usually from the middle class, ie they can afford to go to college.

Don't think just because we're military we're stupid.

Originally posted by PVS
oh dont be so melodramatic....after all fox regretfully doesnt have nearly enough time to spin it into that before election day.

zomg not more of teh paranoid "republicans last minute election ploy is coming!!!!" dribble.

Originally posted by KidRock
zomg not more of teh paranoid "republicans last minute election ploy is coming!!!!" dribble.

Shut up

Originally posted by Kinneary
Despite what some may think, we in the military aren't a bunch of idiots. Recruits who join the military are more likely to have a high school diploma than another kid their age, and they are usually from the middle class, ie they can afford to go to college.

Don't think just because we're military we're stupid.

Rock on Sir!

I salute you!

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Vote Republican.

Originally posted by Kinneary
Despite what some may think, we in the military aren't a bunch of idiots. Recruits who join the military are more likely to have a high school diploma than another kid their age, and they are usually from the middle class, ie they can afford to go to college.

Don't think just because we're military we're stupid.

I happen to think Military Men are Sexy....not stupid

SIR YES SIR ! droolio

Why are people equating not doing good in school to being stupid. They aren't one in the same. He's talking purely about education, not the intelligence of the soldiers.

And he's right, it's nice to see a politician being blunt and honest about something. Many of the soldiers aren't well educated and can't afford college, which is why they are in the military to begin with, in hopes of finding direction for their life.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why are people equating not doing good in school to being stupid. They aren't one in the same. He's talking purely about education, not the intelligence of the soldiers.

Exactly !

Bush graduated from Harvard, but he's still an idiot !

Originally posted by Kinneary
Despite what some may think, we in the military aren't a bunch of idiots. Recruits who join the military are more likely to have a high school diploma than another kid their age, and they are usually from the middle class, ie they can afford to go to college.

Don't think just because we're military we're stupid.

Even you have to admit that there are some dumb ass people in the military. I'm not saying all of them are dumb but they just recently decrees the requirements to get into the military so even dumber people could join.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Almost like what happened when President Bush used the phrase "Islamic fascists," amirite?

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Even you have to admit that there are some dumb ass people in the military. I'm not saying all of them are dumb but they just recently decrees the requirements to get into the military so even dumber people could join.

There are dumbasses in the military. There are smart people in the military. The point is, the military isn't made up of stupid people or insanely smart people. We're just PEOPLE.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Right, like all of the gullible fools who joined the military in WWII?

Exactly. I don't think all the tens of thousands of men who enlisted on Dec. 8th 1941 were a bunch of "gullible fools".

Originally posted by Kinneary
Despite what some may think, we in the military aren't a bunch of idiots. Recruits who join the military are more likely to have a high school diploma than another kid their age, and they are usually from the middle class, ie they can afford to go to college.

Don't think just because we're military we're stupid.

No one said you were. Much like Sithsabre, I invite you to comment on my earlier point:

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If you want to get flustered over an insulting comment, then I'd expect you to get that worked up over insulting treatment.

Now, I understand that you're in Japan and how that's different from being stationed in Iraq. But you don't think backdoor drafts and dropping the requirements to join or sending troops into battle with inadequate supplies, support or equipment is an even greater insult to our troops? I'm not denying that it was a stupid thing to say. I'm saying that you shouldn't get so worked up over a comment when the actions of the current administration do more to insult those men and women who want to serve for the noble reasons you guys seem to think every serviceman joined to express.