Re: Re: Re: Re: John Kerry implies soldiers are all idiots.
Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo I actually have met many military people, specifically lower ranking soldiers - and although you may be one of the exceptions, I have found most to fit the proto-typical "Beatle Bailey" stereotype.
Many see the military as some form of refuge -- one which allows them to shirk the responsibilities they feel incable of fulfilling as a "civilian." If one feels inadequate about facing life, then indeed, there is no better place to join than the American military. They provide for all of your "civilian" needs -- but for a price, which is indeed a hefty one. That price being -- one's individuality, love, and the ability to question the motives of those who have authourity over onself - regardless of how base or how evil their intentions may be.
And even the "intelligent" ones like yourself do tend to be on the doctrinal side of espousing how dedicated they are to their service and/or country, as oppossed to being informed about the type of service they are truly performing.
Do not get me wrong Kinneary, I respect one who has dedication and devotion to one's family, friends, country like yourself -- however, I have great pity on any who walk blindly like lambs to the slaughter, simply because they have not taken the time to educate themselves about the situation present before them, or the true motivations of those whom they blindly follow. [/B]
And I think it's important that you realize that just because we're in the military doesn't mean we can't question those above us. It's Officers who can't say anything detrimental about his leaders. We Enlisted can talk about how much we hate Bush all we want.
Regardless, after seeing Kerry's apology the other day, I'm inclined to believe that what he said was in fact a mistake. I don't like to believe any serious politician is stupid enough to say what he said and not expect a backlash.
Re: Re: Re: Re: John Kerry implies soldiers are all idiots.
Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Many see the military as some form of refuge -- one which allows them to shirk the responsibilities they feel incable of fulfilling as a "civilian." If one feels inadequate about facing life, then indeed, there is no better place to join than the American military. They provide for all of your "civilian" needs -- but for a price, which is indeed a hefty one. That price being -- one's individuality, love, and the ability to question the motives of those who have authourity over onself - regardless of how base or how evil their intentions may be.
Who are you?
Honestly? Where do you pull this crap from. Loosing your individuality? This is nto a robot army my friend. Each soldier has a soul. Joining the military through a sense of inadequacy? Military service is the highest form of political responsibility possible.
Try educating yourself on what the military is and then re-evaluate what your opinons are.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Wouldnt democrats make liberal or anti war comments like that?I dont blame Kerry at all. But please to bash me if you know what I mean.
Well...liberals would state those facts....(maybe cause it fits their agenda), but the joke is that the worse issues do not matter while Kerries statement is made out to be an important issue.
I don't get your last sentence.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Wouldnt democrats make liberal or anti war comments like that?I dont blame Kerry at all. But please to bash me if you know what I mean.
It was a joke intended to diss Bush, pero he ****ed up and ended up dissing the troops.
Made all the more stupid cause he was a swift-boat captain in Vietnam.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaI wouldnt say trying to diss bush but he was being Anti war like.
It was a joke intended to diss Bush, pero he ****ed up and ended up dissing the troops.Made all the more stupid cause he was a swift-boat captain in Vietnam.
Originally posted by Bardock42........And guess what.......0 died. While bush makes a joke of weaponds of mass destruction and 2800 soldiers die. Way to go bush!
Well...liberals would state those facts....(maybe cause it fits their agenda), but the joke is that the worse issues do not matter while Kerries statement is made out to be an important issue.I don't get your last sentence.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Fairly recently, I'd assume.
You'd assume? You posted it. Shouldn't you know?
It just seems to agree with my point in this thread. That's the only reason i ask. Should I also assume that you agree with the hypocrisy its claims, considering you posted it and had nothing else to say about it?
Re: John Kerry implies soldiers are all idiots.
Originally posted by KidRock
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2oWay to go Kerry! Apparently he tried to make a crack at Bush then made himself look stupid..again..
Man, that guy is going to get so ass raped by the media he's going to need to buy an entire factory's worth of Preparation H.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You'd assume? You posted it. Shouldn't you know?It just seems to agree with my point in this thread. That's the only reason i ask. Should I also assume that you agree with the hypocrisy its claims, considering you posted it and had nothing else to say about it?
He said "'Nuff Said" ...which is "stupid" for "I certainly do agree with the point that has just been portrayed and therefore think there doesn't need to be anything added to it" ....anyways, watch out Faceman, you might end up in Iraq.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You'd assume? You posted it. Shouldn't you know?
Should I also assume that you agree with the hypocrisy its claims, considering you posted it and had nothing else to say about it?
Originally posted by Bardock42
He said "'Nuff Said" ...which is "stupid" for "I certainly do agree with the point that has just been portrayed and therefore think there doesn't need to be anything added to it" ....anyways, watch out Faceman, you might end up in Iraq.