If you could...

Originally posted by queeq
I do?

Well, Lucas takes an awful lot of time on stuff.... he doesn't propel his story forward very well and fails to enhance the plot. We get a lot of fighting time, flying around Coruscant, sitting in meadows and riding Shaaks, clone battles and stuff... buthe enlightens us very little. That's why it's too long with no content.
For instance, there's this huge chase on Coruscant and all it does is take OB1 to Kamino. Then he finds out Clones are being made, but that is not a problem, the Republic owns them, there's only the question who ordered them. Adn we never learn who Sifo Dyas is... So with all that chasing, so-called detective work and fighting Jango... in the end we know nothing... That's why it's too long.

Lucas' problem is that instead of using dialogue to help you learn things, he takes you from scene to scene. I see some of your points, yet in the political scenes you tend to learn a lot, and most people don't like those. Look at the scenes on the cutting room floor: Padmé's apartment and Mace and Kenobi on the temple landing platform. Those scenes told you things. Lucas needs to be aware that content should be dense, especially in a movie like Star Wars and espeically in AOTC which has 2 major plotlines.

I agree... I don't understand why Lucas focusses so much on bullsh!t that looks great and less on content. It used to be quite different with him.

Thats because he used to not be able to make the stuff he wanted. He's so thrilled to have the visual capabilities he never had, he forgot to write a story.

Maybe... I still find it extremely odd though...

Also keep in ming that ANH and ESB are cockpit-based movies. Most of the action happens in space. Hence a narrower focus. ROTJ-ROTS take place mostly on the ground. There are more distractions when you are depicting an open environment.

That is BS.... Location doesn't define a good story. I've seen excellent warmovies like THree Kings or Apocalypse now. They are depicting an open environment and yet they work like a charm. It all comes down to identification with main characters and their good story... And that is what's wrong here. Not whether it's cockpit based...

I'm not saying that the location defines the quality. I'm saying that when the locations became expanded, Lucas got distracted by insiginificant details like "Lets go the the street vendor over here!" or "Lets walk through this very long corridor!"

And let's have lots of extra characters I want to expand on a little...

But again, it's not the shots, it's what happens (or doesn't happen) in them what is flawed. Form is one thing, content is another. And the sad thing is: conceptually he had good content. And form wise he had all the money he needed to make it look the way he wanted. So where did he go wrong?

The transfer from concept to reality, I think. Mankind never really gets it quite right.

A lot of filmmakers do though. Lucas did... once...

Then the power of translation from thought to film doesn't last? ermm

Yes, it does... when done well.

TPM
more lighsabre fights
jawas inclued
Attack of the Clones:
1). A lot less love scenes
2). More information of Sifo-Dyas
3). A longer Geonosis fight between Jedi and droids
4). More of Coleman Trebor and Jango Fett
5).mace vs dooku
ROTS
more war!
yoda vs general g
more jedi diying-not that i like them dying

EP 1

1)Anakin not only being nine years old
2) Obi-Wan actually going on tatooine (not just the ship)
3) have count dooku in it

EP 2
1) Obi-Wan better hairdo
2) anakin with a double saber

EP 3

1)LONGER OBI VS ANAKIN FIGHT

Longer????

It was already pretty long for a lightsaber duel, longest yet maybe?

Yup, long enough methinks.

Here are my top 5 for all 6 episodes - maybe I will specify for each episode later:

Top 5
1. No Ewoks (then ep. 6 would have been the best of them all)
2. No Jar Jar
3. Yoda beat up Sidious and Dooku - Dooku manage to escape and Sidious got help, why Yoda had to leave the fight before he could finish him off
4. Darth Vader killing of Sidious in a long fight
5. Change Obi Wan's fight against Anakin. At that time Anakin was much more powerful compared to Obi Wan. Ridiculous fight.

VAder klling Sidious in a long fight???? That is really lame... I can only judge you have no clue what that was all about then...

Originally posted by queeq
Yup, long enough methinks.