Originally posted by AllianceShould I say "O rly?" or "R u Shur?"
Wait? How is killing another any better than the crime?And they're HANGING him for christ sake. The Guillotine is a more advanced form of punishment. Stoning him to death is the only thing more barbaric.
This is a fricking Stalinistic showtrial with Bush parading Saddam out to be hung in front of thousands just so Bush can get a good press picture.
Its animalistic.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Oh cut the &^%&*( crap. The death penalty is a fair and just punishment for murder, and most certainly for someone like Saddam Hussein. Europe routinely lets brutal killers out of prison after a few years because to keep them in any longer would "be against human dignity". You might as well take a shit on the victems graves, it's the same thing.
You're funny...
Brutal murderers often face penalty's like life. Which in this country at least actually means life. Also Europe isn't one country, the laws are different in the country's in Europe and even in the EU they are completely different meaning the penalty's for crimes are also different. A murderer in this country for instance can get 4 years for murder, that is true. But they have to go to an asylum after that.
Which often means that they can stay in there for the rest of their lives, or at least a very large part of it.
Now the death penalty in some cases is deserved. But then what if people are innocent? Innocent people are still being executed today even in the US, because the criminal justice system isn't fool proof. Besides killing people is seen as inhumane and is against the laws of humanity. So it would be a bit hypocritical if we would kill people for committing crimes against humanity then now wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by Alliance
Wait? How is killing another any better than the crime?And they're HANGING him for christ sake. The Guillotine is a more advanced form of punishment. Stoning him to death is the only thing more barbaric.
This is a fricking Stalinistic showtrial with Bush parading Saddam out to be hung in front of thousands just so Bush can get a good press picture.
Its animalistic.
You're obviously forgetting his victems. Why is there always sympathy for the killer (or in this case the initiator of) but never for the victems? You people make me sick.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
You're obviously forgetting his victems. Why is there always sympathy for the killer (or in this case the initiator of) but never for the victems? You people make me sick.
They're dead, who cares....
But seriously killing somebody because he killed somebody won't make those people get back, it's just a hypocritical way of punishing people.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
You're obviously forgetting his victems. Why is there always sympathy for the killer (or in this case the initiator of) but never for the victems? You people make me sick.
No, we are not forgetting his victims.
His victis are either dead in which case they have no need for him to be killed or they are now rid of him, but why should they (or anyone for that matter) now have the right to make him a victim of theirs?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Sounds pretty babaric to me as well.Revenge is such an idiotic idea.
Ok I have it, Let's set Saddam up with a new life in the US, apologize to him for his past few years in confinment (obviously too harsh a punishment for genocide), give him a free condo in Malibu and a new Lexus. While we're at it let's let all the worlds violent criminals out of prison and give them our children to rape.
Jesus H fukking Christ, with attitudes like yours not wonder the world is fukked up.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Ok I have it, Let's set Saddam up with a new life in the US, apologize to him for his past few years in confinment (obviously too harsh a punishment for genocide), give him a free condo in Malibu and a new Lexus. While we're at it let's let all the worlds violent criminals out of prison and give them our children to rape.Jesus H fukking Christ, with attitudes like yours not wonder the world is fukked up.
Well, if it stops him from harming people I would not see a problem with that at all.
And, no, the world is certainly ****ed because of people like me...actually last I checked the US was lead by some ****head who totally digs killing off criminals...you'd probably like him, you seem to share the fascist believes.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not the one to judge that. I think I have no right to torture anyone beyond what is necessary to keep society safe. To kill him is just taking more rights than anyone should have.
That's why I say send him to a Leper colony; I'm not killing him, a disease is doing my work for me. I'm completely devoid of blame. 😉
Originally posted by RocasAtoll
That's why I say send him to a Leper colony; I'm not killing him, a disease is doing my work for me. I'm completely devoid of blame. 😉
Yeah, or lets throw him down a cliff...we are completely innocent..gravity killed him.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Exactly, who cares. And when someone murders your family I'll have a drink and say, "oh well, just some more European trash, who cares"
Accepted. Although I would like if you'd not call them trash, but that's up to you as well. You are not very reasonable, are you?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, if it stops him from harming people I would not see a problem with that at all.And, no, the world is certainly ****ed because of people like me...actually last I checked the US was lead by some ****head who totally digs killing off criminals...you'd probably like him, you seem to share the fascist believes.
No, I'm not a fascist nor do I care for Bush, but with attitudes like yours I could support genocide, as long as it only happened to people like you.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
You're obviously forgetting his victems. Why is there always sympathy for the killer (or in this case the initiator of) but never for the victems? You people make me sick.
No I am not and its disgusting for you to say so.
Killing Saddam does not solve the problem, it does not bring these people back. If killing Saddam would right wrongs, I'd be all for it, but its just another wrong thrown onto a huge pile. Killing Saddam does not bring peace, only lust, greed and thirst for blood.
Saddam is a vile thing, but if you sink to his level, and you execute him(not even bringing up the public and barbaric method of execution) you become him. You stand for everything Saddam did. I do not.
I'm on the right side the anti-Saddam side. You two would get along great killing people.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
No, I'm not a fascist nor do I care for Bush, but with attitudes like yours I could support genocide, as long as it only happened to people like you.
Hmm, yeah, that's what Hitler thought. Just with Jews, not people like me.
You don't see what an unbelievable hypocrite you are, do you?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, or lets throw him down a cliff...we are completely innocent..gravity killed him.
Yup.
No, I'm not a fascist nor do I care for Bush, but with attitudes like yours I could support genocide, as long as it only happened to people like you.
So do you want to kill German people or intelligent people?
Originally posted by Alliance
No I am not and its disgusting for you to say so.Killing Saddam does not solve the problem, it does not bring these people back. If killing Saddam would right wrongs, I'd be all for it, but its just another wrong thrown onto a huge pile. Killing Saddam does not bring peace, only lust, greed and thirst for blood.
Saddam is a vile thing, but if you sink to his level, and you execute him(not even bringing up the public and barbaric method of execution) you become him. You stand for everything Saddam did. I do not.
I'm on the right side the anti-Saddam side. You two would get along great killing people.
No, you peice of excrement. He killed anyone and everyone who he saw as a threat to his power. I only support the lawful execution of barbaric killers after a trial. There's a HUGE difference.