Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Death

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Yup.

So do you want to kill German people or intelligent people?

Neither, only people who think a slap on the wrist is sufficient punishment for murder or genocide.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
No, you peice of excrement. He killed anyone and everyone who he saw as a threat to his power. I only support the lawful execution of barbaric killers after a trial. There's a HUGE difference.

He was the law in that country. It certainly was just as lawful as this trial.

You support killing people because they killed people. That is what it comes down to.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
No, you peice of excrement.

He killed anyone and everyone who he saw as a threat to his power. I only support the lawful execution of barbaric killers after a trial. There's a HUGE difference.

Why are you throwing around insults?

Actually, you missed Alliance's point.

Neither, only people who think a slap on the wrist is sufficient punishment for murder or genocide.

So you want to commit genlcide against others because they don't believe in the same thing as you. Didn't Saddam do that too?

Originally posted by Bardock42
He was the law in that country. It certainly was just as lawful as this trial.

You support killing people because they killed people. That is what it comes down to.

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Hence, you become the killer.

Originally posted by Alliance
Explain how killing is not killing?

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Exactly, who cares. And when someone murders your family I'll have a drink and say, "oh well, just some more European trash, who cares"

Originally posted by Bardock42
He was the law in that country. It certainly was just as lawful as this trial.

[b]Just as Hitler used to be the law in yours

You support killing people because they killed people. That is what it comes down to.

Now you get it

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Originally posted by JacopeX
Thats pretty much the thing others must think about. Saddam is a cold hearted evil person that shouldnt even be called a human. He gave up his humanity with crimes like this and he must die. Revenge? What revenge? Its punishment!!!!

Its bloody revenge. Why should we emulate Saddam and kill people. Why should we give up our hummanity?

Originally posted by JacopeX
Thats pretty much the thing others must think about. Saddam is a cold hearted evil person that shouldnt even be called a human. He gave up his humanity with crimes like this and he must die. Revenge? What revenge? Its punishment!!!!

And the people, by killing him, do not "lose" their humanity? Why? Because you do not like their victim?

Also, I am not actually against capital punishment. As I said I can see that it is easy and useful...but a) it is often used for the wrong reasons and b) it is indeed quite hypocritical.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
I just did, but obviously you're too dense to understand it.

Well, i guess you have nothing further to state since you've resorted to insults. Since you can't back up your points any more, i guess your position has unraveled.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its bloody revenge. Why should we emulate Saddam and kill people. Why should we give up our hummanity?

Is it also revenge if we just lock him up because we felt he was wrong and yet he didn't, either way you can call punishment revenge, death penalty or life in prison.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus

Yes, just as Hitler used to be the law in my country. What is your point? Because you think the laws of your country are better than the laws of his country you can do the same things he did as long as it is accepted by your laws?

Point taken, but one solves the problem and the other solves the problem by supporting everything Saddam did.

Lock him up, throw away the key and let him rot himself to death. But DON'T support his methods.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, just as Hitler used to be the law in my country. What is your point? Because you think the laws of your country are better than the laws of his country you can do the same things he did as long as it is accepted by your laws?

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Originally posted by Soleran
Is it also revenge if we just lock him up because we felt he was wrong and yet he didn't, either way you can call punishment revenge, death penalty or life in prison.

That's what I mean. It is seen as punishment or revenge. That are (in my opinion) wrong reasons for laws. It should be to protect society from future crimes..which, I have to admit, is made sure with the death penalty. So if you can live with the blatant hypocrisy...that's fine...I just don't like people that talk like it is something he deserves for doing something and that they are so much better besides calling for his death.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And the people, by killing him, do not "lose" their humanity? Why? Because you do not like their victim?

Also, I am not actually against capital punishment. As I said I can see that it is easy and useful...but a) it is often used for the wrong reasons and b) it is indeed quite hypocritical.

I belive that death sentence would be better than life. Killing is a crime period and you face serious punishment for that. Life sentence is not enough trust me. Theres people who deserve it, and the charges can even be very sick a brutal. You are being dolt by calling the US and the president barbaric when the killer himself is way more barbaric and killed many upon many people. Or youre eighter one of those who support the conspiracy behind the goverment!

Originally posted by JacopeX
I guess you are one of those who are against it.

I belive that death sentence would be better than life. Killing is a crime period and you face serious punishment for that. Life sentence is not enough trust me. Theres people who deserve it, and the charges can even be very sick a brutal. You are being dolt by calling the US and the president barbaric when the killer himself is way more barbaric and killed many upon many people. Or youre eighter one of those who support the conspiracy behind the goverment!

As I said. No. I am not against it per se. It is a useful tool. I am against a certain state of mind, people in favour of the death penalty have. Hmm, this reminds me of an argument I had about gun control, where I also argued the anti-gun side without being actually against access to guns..I think Soleran participated. I wonder if my opinions changed, I can't recall.

"Killing is a crime period and you face serious punishment for that"...I suppose that is the point. Is the death penalty not killing someone? Why is life sentence not enough. why should I trust you? What makes life sentence less of a useful punishment but without taking a life?

"You are being dolt by calling the US and the president barbaric when the killer himself is way more barbaric and killed many upon many people."

That is also and idiotic statement. I can't call a barbaric practice "barbaric" because there are even more barbaric practices? Come on now..just think that through once more.

I had pretty much forgotten about Hussein, really....

I thought the trial would go on until the end of time

I suppose that is the point. Is the death penalty not killing someone? Why is life sentence not enough. why should I trust you? What makes life sentence less of a useful punishment but without taking a life?

It's enough, just taxing on the government, which already has a bunch of druggies to deal with.

I have always been of the opinion that using the death penalty is people thinking that two wrongs make a right.