Will deserves a chance at Liz

Do you think AWE is going to end emotionally?

pirates 1 and 2 ended up with Will/Liz but physically. Emotionally Liz was on jacks mind and jack was on her mind.

Yup that's how I saw it too, just what you ladies had said. It all makes very perfect sense. Editing to say that I think AWE will end emotionally.

T&T say its the choices that matter in the movie. I think we may see her make a choice in one way or another when it comes to Jack..or we will see something that suggests she has made that choice. They may use a slightly different way to express it in AWE. they cant make it exactly the same..

I think I know what Jack may realize about himself..Elizbaeth will realize it too..and if she does indeed love him and care about him...she wont be able to find it in her heart to leave him like that IMO

I cant imagine the audience exactly LOVING her character if she leaves him like that..because its actually her fault it happened.

And its obviously something he cant overcome on his own..he needs to be helped as that thing says...and if this is the moment where she truly realizes where her heart lies..then it means its with Jack.

This sorta happened in DMC at the end in a way..

Whilst Liz is so concentrated on Will...I think she's missing something rather major when it comes to Jack. 😉 It may take her a while to realize..or it may hit her like a TON of bricks. Unless they want her character to be forever known as a heartless ***** I think they will end it J/E

I think I know what you mean....I think lol

Im not sure if shes too concentrated too much on Will because she feels a need to protect him. Since she was the one who rescued him from the boat so I figured ever since shes been keeping an eye out for him. And remember that she took the medallion to protect Will, so nobody will think that he's a pirate.

Im not sure if Liz reasons to be with Will is because that she feels that she owes it to him since Will loves her.

I mean that kinda...but Chiki I really do think she loves Will and its not only to protect..but it doesnt mean she doesnt have feelings for Jack...she may just be pushing them down whilst Will is around...I dont think she loves Jack yet but She seems to get a huge "dont know what you got till its gone" moment when ever she realizes something major about him...then she seems to show how much she wants him to be back because "she may indeed love him" and she realizes she's killed a good man..."already the world seems a bit less bright" - Gibbs..this whole emphasis on Jack being a good man is very important IMO..people need that man in their world, Elizabeth needs that man in her world.

and for some reason..now that spoiler on podcast makes about 1 million times more sense because that thing doesnt happen to Will/Liz at all in the story.

This whole thing I'm getting at is very hard to explain but it makes sense in my head lol.

Originally posted by LovelyOne
I mean that kinda...but Chiki I really do think she loves Will and its not only to protect..but it doesnt mean she doesnt have feelings for Jack...she may just be pushing them down whilst Will is around...I dont think she loves Jack yet but She seems to get a huge "dont know what you got till its gone" moment when ever she realizes something major about him...then she seems to show how much she wants him to be back because "she may indeed love him" and she realizes she's killed a good man..."already the world seems a bit less bright" - Gibbs..this whole emphasis on Jack being a good man is very important IMO..people need that man in their world, Elizabeth needs that man in her world.

Yes of course I do believe she loves him 😂 I have said this...again 😛

Elizabeth is a human being. If she stood by him all this time is because she does love him. She wouldnt be too cruel to just let the man all over her just because she feels pitty.

When I said that she stood by him because she thinks that she owes to will, I was talking about the ending in DMC. She made a choice, her choise was to be with Will, but you can read on her that thats not the exact choice that she wants.

Someone said she cried because she killed a human being...well I didnt see her crying when barbossa's crew killed Norington's men. And I didnt seee her crying when the kraken took some of the crew away.

Its just...IMO she made that choice because of shes Will's fiance. And for a woman to leave a "good man" for a pirate probably wouldnt be to good for society to see.

So she thought it was just only a temptation, just kiss him, chain him up, and go back to Will.

But it kind of all back fired.

DMC's ending is very significant to the end of AWE IMO..its gonna pretty much be based around the same emotions coming from Elizabeth

She's not crying there because she killed a man..she's crying because she's killed Jack. Chiki I agree with you she's not only showing guilt for killing a man..right here she's showing us just how loyal her heart to Jack really is IMO and this is the last thing we get from her in the movie..meaning this is where she emotionaly ended in DMC..they said if they wanted to end the story here they would be comfortable with it because ithe closure is there already...IMO in AWE its going to be the same..but probably right at the very end.

I thought Tia was the only one who could bring back Jack

lol you dont get what I'm hinting at

I cant exactly say it because its spoilers kinda..

I'm talking about the ending of AWE..

I honestly don't think all the emotions Liz showed towards Jack before and as she chained him up are important at all. Whats important is what we see afterward with her character.

this whole thing what Terry said on wordplay about Liz crying because she's killed someone that she may indeed love and it reveals a part of herself she cant live with..IMO this is NOT a part of her that is like a pirate and leaving people to die..its part of her that leaves people she might LOVE to die she cant live with herself if she does that.

This may be echoed later on with her and Jack.

because something happens to Jack in AWE because of what she did to him on th pearl and she may realize it rather late in AWE because she is so concentrated on Will.

OOOOOOO *slaps hand on forhead*

Ok Lovely say it " Mina, you dumb ass" lol

Yes that yeah I agree. So Liz could bring back Jack as in waking up his feelings again?

😉..kinda..there's something I'm just dying to say but i cant.

Am gonna stop now lol

where is that darn spoiler on Podcast..I wanna read it again..

In the end, it says that the captain finds his love and the only way his curse can be lifted is if his love casts herself into the sea. It says his love knows the story of the Flying Dutchman very well. Even though his love is caught in a love triangle, her faith in the captain is the strongest. So, she casts herself into the sea, the curse is lifted on the Flying Dutchman, and the captain and her go to heaven

something tells me we shouldn't take this spoiler at face value..or as literally as it comes across.

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."

Or I may be totaly off the mark here 😂

cuz that spoiler kinda suggests that she helps him then goes off with Will possibly 😂

but I can say that podcast spoliler doesnt mean Will/Liz IMO

those two "spoilers" may be indicating something similar when it comes to Jack what Elizabeth's last choice in AWE will be.^^^

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The Flying Dutchman is actually the name of the captain and not the ship believe it or not.

http://www.occultopedia.com/f/flying_dutchman.htm

not saying this website ties in with Jack or Will in anyway..just posting it to give a bit of history on the legend.

Thanks Lovely Im sorry If I posted late.

"Jack realizes something about himself that stems from what happened in DMC. With the help of Elizabeth and his father, he is able to overcome this struggle. It is at this moment that Elizabeth realizes where her heart truly lies."

I dont have exact prrof myself, but I know its not really a Liz/Will ending. Jacks sturggle was to accept that he wants elilzabeth. I think his father and Elizabeth will help him overcome his feelings. Then she probably plans to go with Will....but theres something missing in there.

Its very incomplete: Helps Jack, then runs with Will. I think there are some things missing in here.

no IMO..he realises something about himself and so does Elizabeth and teague...

I'm wondering if one of the main reasons Jack hates his honest self is because of his father and something teague did to him in the past, something that hurt him..It happens again with Elizabeth and that may be the "last straw"...

Will Lizzie and Teague reconcile with him? Save him?

It amazes me that Jack tries to seperate himself from his emotions so much..even before he met Elizabeth..

does his cold hearted behaviour in the draft script remind you of a certain someone??

Will the audience WANT Jack to become like this? and stay like this?

what would teague have done in the past?