Thanos versus Marvel's Top Villains

Started by Wally West9 pages

Its hardly speculation since Thanos has shown matter manipulation ability and the ability to drain the lifeforce from someone.

From someone... you said it yourself.

I'd like to see however Thanos drawing the life force from Absorbing Man, or Juggernaut, or Ultron, or Apocalypse, or Sinister...

That should be interesting.

Yes it would certainly be interesting to see someone drain the lifeforce of Ultron...

Tell me, do you have any examples of Juggernaut resisting matter and energy manipulation?

Originally posted by Wally West
Tell me, do you have any examples of Juggernaut resisting matter and energy manipulation?

As much as you have examples of Juggernaut being weak to those kinds of things.

You're assuming too much. Godforce from Thor ? Juggernaut hardly notices it. A guy who can take that, can also take Thanos punches and blasts.

Of course Thanos can beat Juggernaut, but not in physical way. But I don't want to turn this into a Thanos vs Juggernaut thread.

Thanos is outnumbered. Way outnumbered if I might say so.

Doom, Absorbing Man and Juggernaut can beat Thanos. Or Magneto, Apocalypse and Ultron. Unless they fight stupid.

"Doom, Absorbing Man and Juggernaut can beat Thanos."

No they can't.

"Or Magneto, Apocalypse and Ultron"

Neither can they.

I forgot though, you like to chime in on Thanos threads and insist everyman and their dog can beat him, so theres no point debating with you.

Here is the Senario Thanos use a large blast to K.O Doom off the bat then he he uses his eye blastes and knocks Juggernaut's helmet off and easily attacks his mind turning him into a ally and then it's Thanos and Juggernaut vs Absorbing Man.

Originally posted by bigbran

Also, Juggs is going to have to take down his shield.
Plus, what exactly is he going to do to hurt Thanos?
Thanos can hurt Juggs.
Take off his helmet, and Juggs is a gonner.
Is this really going to distract him?
I mean, he still has his shields up, that Galactus had to exert force to pierce them. Omega fired off a massive blast, and Thanos was still alive because of his shields. Fallen One tried to attack him, and Thanos put him down with a wall. Thor tried to throw his hammer through it, and his hammer stopped dead, then hit the ground.

How would Absorbing Man defend against getting turned into stone...


Why on Earth would Juggernaut have to take off his helmet?

And Absorbing man would turn him self to stone and continue moving?

And most of all, Thanos used the shields of his SHIP against Galactus, not shields created by his own power. Hence, the point is utterly moot.

Only real threat here is Absorbing Man. Take him out and Thanos stands a chance, but as he's in there, the team wins 10/10

Originally posted by Wally West
I forgot though, you like to chime in on Thanos threads and insist everyman and their dog can beat him, so theres no point debating with you.

Whatever. At least I bring some arguments to the table, unlike the "It's Thanos he can't lose" argument.

This team : overkill.

Half of the team : still overkill.

Each of these guys alone against Thanos : Thanos wins (Juggernaut and Magneto... I don't know however, they have very powerful force fields and Magneto is more versatile than Thanos).

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Whatever. At least I bring some arguments to the table, unlike the "It's Thanos he can't lose" argument.
Thats funny because I don't recall using that argument, and have listed several different ideas on how he can beat most of the people he is facing here, whereas you have relied on insiting Juggernaut cannot be beaten and Magneto can solo Thanos, and not brought any other arguments to the table...

Originally posted by Wally West
Thats funny because I don't recall using that argument, and have listed several different ideas on how he can beat most of the people he is facing here, whereas you have relied on insiting Juggernaut cannot be beaten

Not in a physical way. Thanos needs more than his fists and his blasts.

I thought this was basic knowledge ?

and Magneto can solo Thanos, and not brought any other arguments to the table...

A "high end" Magneto can definitely give Thanos serious trouble. Why not ? His forcefield has survived nuclear blasts without effort, and Magneto is a very versatile fighter.

Have you forgotten that Thanos has upgraded himself not only in a mystical way, but also in a technological way ? There's a good chance Magneto can manipulate those enhancements. And does Thanos have iron in his blood by the way ? You'd probably say "No he doesn't" because it would be bad news for Thanos.

And even if he hasn't, there are lots of other ways to hurt Thanos or to make the fight interesting : create a wormhole, invert gravity, turn invisible, drop a mountain on Thanos and so on.

And you think Doom and Apoc and Absorbing Man and Juggernaut are just gonna sit there and fill in the crosswords ?

Thanos is so screwed.

(I like Thanos much more than I like Magneto, but I know where to draw the line : at Thanos fanboys. They are ruining a pretty good villain)

Magneto is nothing to Thanos.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Not in a physical way. Thanos needs more than his fists and his blasts.

I thought this was basic knowledge ?

You must have missed the post where I said Thanos wouldn't rely on brute strength and force to beat Juggernaut, because you know its not like he has other attributes like telepathy, telekensis, energy and matter manipulation, astral projection, etc etc. Oh and an intellect that makes Doom and Reed look like 2 year olds.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
A "high end" Magneto can definitely give Thanos serious trouble. Why not ? His forcefield has survived nuclear blasts without effort, and Magneto is a very versatile fighter.

Have you forgotten that Thanos has upgraded himself not only in a mystical way, but also in a technological way ? There's a good chance Magneto can manipulate those enhancements. And does Thanos have iron in his blood by the way ? You'd probably say "No he doesn't" because it would be bad news for Thanos.

And even if he hasn't, there are lots of other ways to hurt Thanos or to make the fight interesting : create a wormhole, invert gravity, turn invisible, drop a mountain on Thanos and so on.

And you think Doom and Apoc and Absorbing Man and Juggernaut are just gonna sit there and fill in the crosswords ?

A high-end Magneto isn't even as powerful as Silver Surfer, who Thanos has beaten to near death with ease.

I have no idea if Thanos has iron in his blood, I would assume he does, but he also has complete molecular control over his body and Magneto is not ripping him to pieces or whatever else you have in mind, take a look at him traveling to the In-Betweener and see what his body can take.

Dropping a mountain on Thanos? Hes survived much worse. Wormhole? He can teleport away and even if he didnt has survived being sucked into a black hole. Magneto cannot dish out the punishment needed to take down Thanos. And its not like Thanos would just let his opponent's attack him without attacking back.

Oh and anyone who thinks Absorbing Man is troubling THANOS is out of their minds. He could just turn him to stone or glass (something he has done before) and shatter him to pieces, or shut down his mind, in case him in a block of force etc.

Non-prepped Doom or Apocalypse are nothing to Thanos either. Thanos could turn most of these guys into his thralls and even things up.

The only place you'll ever see Magneto get the better of Thanos is in the 'Marvel Super Heroes' fighting game...or 'Marvel vs. Capcom 2'. Other than that, he's a joke to Thanos.

Originally posted by Wally West
A high-end Magneto isn't even as powerful as Silver Surfer, who Thanos has beaten to near death with ease.

ABC Logic. Surfer is not Magneto. Surfer is an idiot when he fights Thanos, he only uses half of his powers and almost never uses his awesome speed.
Oh and anyone who thinks Absorbing Man is troubling THANOS is out of their minds.

I never said that. Absorbing Man giving Thanos trouble is something that can happen, but Absorbing Man beating Thanos is bollocks.
He could just turn him to stone or glass

I don't know about that. I really doubt it.
(something he has done before) and shatter him to pieces, or shut down his mind, in case him in a block of force etc.

I only remember one occasion in which Thanos turned somebody into a statue or so - with that Skrull dude, an old comic.

Glass Thor doesn't count - IG.

Non-prepped Doom or Apocalypse are nothing to Thanos either.

Doom is by far my favorite villain, but I agree he's nothing to Thanos without prep. Apocalypse... depends, is it Jobberclypse or the True Apocalypse (whatever that may be) ?
Thanos could turn most of these guys into his thralls and even things up.

Yes. You don't have to convince me, I know that already. But all at the same time ? Forget it. Is not gonna happen.

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Always great to hear the opinion of someone who diametrically opposes one of the characters in the thread. No one listens to Kid Kurdy in Thanos threads just like no one listens to Grimm22 in Wolverine threads. It would be pointless.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I only remember one occasion in which Thanos turned somebody into a statue or so - with that Skrull dude, an old comic.

Glass Thor doesn't count - IG.

Doom is by far my favorite villain, but I agree he's nothing to Thanos without prep. Apocalypse... depends, is it Jobberclypse or the True Apocalypse (whatever that may be) ?

Yes. You don't have to convince me, I know that already. But all at the same time ? Forget it. Is not gonna happen.

Re turning the Skrull to stone, I don't think it should be disregarded simply because its from an old comic, its an example of matter manipluation which Thanos still shows today, just not that extreame (but the character isn't as ruthless now), its within his capability. Turning Thor to glass, granted he was using the power gem during that fight, but again its not an example of a power he doesn't normally have, that particular case may be him amping his power up with the gem though. There are other examples of him manipulating matter, so its not a power that should just be disregarded.

Apocalypse is to inconsistant for me to actually believe without prep he is a Thanos-beater.

And remember, Thanos has a personal teleporter on him at all times, he could take this fight and any of his opponent's to wherever he wants on the planet and continue the battle there (I don't know if that counts as battlefield removal or not since the Earth is the battlefield...), or since he has force fields that even Galactus has to exert himself to break he could keep any of these guys at bay for as long as he needs to pick them off one at a time.

Originally posted by Tshern
Why wouldn't it work on a non-human if the damn Ovoids are using it? I don't think the Ovoids are common people from Alabama either.

Doom has so strong will that Thanos wouldn't shut his mind that easily. Has Thanos ever shut down anyone's mind on panel?

And planning is allowed according to the forum rules. Good points regardless, I like your posts.

Ovoid ploy would work.
If they were able to disable a Herald of Galactus, they have the ability to effect Thanos. So, their technology would most likely work on Thanos.

Originally posted by bigbran
There is no prep.
That was a future Doom.
That Doom also had to use a machine to get Galactus's power.
I don't even think Doom can really absorb power like that.
Didn't he use machines to do it to Surfer?
I know a Doombot used a massive machine to steal Surfer's energy.

Also, I guess I need to read Secret Wars again, since there are people saying he beat him, and there are people saying Beyonder beat Doom.

So basically, Doom isn't taking his power.

Doom was able to absorb the power of Galactus' ship. Then he went up to battle Beyonder.
Beyonder had Doom defeated, and he was actually disecting him.
While Doom was split in half, (up the middle), he did his classic "Doom Thing", where is realizes the unbeleivable pain of his last moments of life as he starts to fade away, and then states that he is not just an average person or something. Beyonder continues his disection and inspection of Doom's dying body.
He is dying, but refuses, for, he is, after all, "Doom", and they show his outstretched hand reaching toward a single button within his split armor...

Doom Triumphant.

So, in reality, he defeated Galactus and Beyonder. With just his brain.

Don't tell me that He can't do the same to Thanos.

Originally posted by Wally West
Re turning the Skrull to stone, I don't think it should be disregarded simply because its from an old comic, its an example of matter manipluation which Thanos still shows today,

Old comics are like handbooks you need something to back it up as well because old comics can sometimes contradict completely what characters can do today. What skrull was this, was this a super skrull or a normal skrull?

Originally posted by Wally West

just not that extreame (but the character isn't as ruthless now), its within his capability. Turning Thor to glass, granted he was using the power gem during that fight, but again its not an example of a power he doesn't normally have, that particular case may be him amping his power up with the gem though. There are other examples of him manipulating matter, so its not a power that should just be disregarded.

Yes but until you have actually seen him turn a super powered person like Thor to stone without a gem you are just speculating. Obvoulsy turning Thor into stone is going to be alot harder than turning a normal skrull into stone.