Wow, PirateDiva, what an opportunity. I'm so glad the next movie won't be a prequel. What an honor to meet such respected writers. I'm envious of you.
In some ways, I really respect that they wanted to be original and it sort of parallels real life. Someone can touch you in such a way that you develop and really grow as a person, but that doesn't always mean you'll end up romantically with them. I also have said that I wouldn't have gone for Elizabeth actually cheating on Will after they had married. So just going off the actual events that occured, a friendship as strong and loving as theirs was the best that could have happened, and I do respect and admire the originality and uniqueness of their relationship.
But at the same time, I don't think they knew just how many people would respond so strongly as they did to J/E. And there is nothing wrong with preferring them to the other shipping ideas that circle around. I'm sure there is a site somewhere dedicated to Elizabeth and Barbossa's kindred spirits. It takes all kinds to make a world. But there was something there between them and I think part of the lust they felt for each other in DMC had to deal with the fact that they lusted after the Person and not just the Body. They found in each other something special and became better people for it. I wish it would have worked out and AWE would have been a little different, but oh well. Maybe T&T knew it would spark something, especially when they saw the natural chemistry between Johnny and Keira that (in my opinion) she lacks with Orlando (but he's a good actor who has chemistry with others). Publicity of any kind is good publicity. So now that we know their thought process, let's just celebrate the movies and not be bitter about anything. They are what they are and we have wonderful things like youtube and fanfiction where we can think about what could have been. This isn't my first preferred pairing that didn't happen, so I'm used to it, but for people struggling, remember the good times and remember what the movies mean to you. When it all comes down to it, the artist(s) intention never matters because art is defined by the people who experience it.
Willo, thank you for such a wonderful post. I love your cheerfulness on a subject which I sometimes find very depressing. I agree that I'm glad that while Lizzie and Jack didn't end up together romantically, they had a good parting of ways as friends. An almost "i'll be seeing you sooner than you think" seemed to be communicated. I am sure that they did see eachother over the next ten years, even if it was not romantic.
I'm in love with Sparrabeth again, off to read fanfic..
With due respect to your opinion, Willo, I can't be as positive as you. I mean, fanfic and videos can only do so much, ya know. I need my Sparrabeth closure in POTC 4, now that I know TnT are indeed working on it. Even if Keira doesn't appear in part 4, I need Sparrabeth to be acknowledged. Jack's character had developed in parts 2 and 3 so I can't see him back to his old self in part 1 for part 4. He's gotta admit that Liz meant something to him in part 4.
If Keira doesn't come back, then there has to be another credible female lead who has tons of chemistry with Johnny. No Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Johansson, heck definitely not Lindsay Lohan!!! Only one - Kate Beckinsale, the female vampire in Underworld, can do a kickass pirate role.
yes, I agree. With all due respect, Willo...I'm just not as cheerful and content with Jack and Elizabeth's relationship as you seem to be...I wish I was...then I'd be able to let this go and move on....I feel like a tortured soul who can never find it's way out of the darkness....when I think about Sparrabeth. And I agree with you To Freedom, fanfics and vids and such can only go so far....I wanted some real action between Liz and Jack because the chemistry between them was to die for....
and therein lies the problem, Willo...yes, it did mirror real life and more is the pity...through Liz and Jack we were able to live that life we will never know....the girl and the bad boy......throwing caution to the wind and going with your passion.......and that was why I fell so in love with DMC and Sparrabeth..to escape the real world....but then it came crashing down again in At World's End.......
Originally posted by To Freedom
Like Liz, I long for freedom in my heart yet my mind tells me it's impossible becos' of my reality. I'd love to just get up and go, anywhere, anytime but I've commitments, how can I just let go? If I do let go, I'll be full of guilt. And like Liz, I find it hard to communicate how I truly feel for fear of hurting people.As for Jack, he seems to run away or tries to find a way out whenever he is confronted with a problem. I totally do that a lot. Jack also represents freedom, a bit devil-may-care, which I find so attractive in a man. Unfortunately, the reality is that such a man may not want to settle down permanently. I would love my lover to be less repressed and uptight yet I don't want him to take off and go anytime.
Miz 2Freedom--The only thing in this world that I can't handle, that hurts beyond comprehension, is lies, either by commission (yes you look great in that coat) or omission (I didn't tell you I had 14 other boyfriends becos I didn't want to hurt you). Don't know what your life is, your responsibilities, yet I know you have freedom in your heart, you have it in your brain. It doesn't always mean blasting out the door for the horizon--it sorta sounds to me you've chosen your freedom to be keeping your life(family?) together. There's lots of people who've walked away from their lives, to me that's selfish. You can choose anything--do not let anyone (and for me, that means me) tell you you can't.
Now to you, little precious blurry Missy Imperial Pirate DIVA, DIVA, DIVA!! Our DIVA is RED HOT. Your gris-gris is vast. please, a corner of your shirt you wore as a Holy relic (lol). I am so stoked for ya, dearie--what a helluva treat. I loved the picture where Terry(?) was leaning down to your tiny, petite darling self. I sorry that you got the truth from them and it didn't bear the dreams to fruition.
Here's the deal though, we all endured the hardest part of the trilogy in DMC, we buried the man. He was gone, no more of this world, lost to any goodness, human joy or caring. How smooth God awful was that--and I know the hopeful romantic in me, knew we would contrive to bring him forth again. If the story can be imagined beyond AWE, then shall we not choose our "ending" (or middle-ing) to be that which we desire. They had the great ideas to begin. We know what we need.
Now see here, Miz Pi Diva==I'm being all forthright and serious and stuff, don't you know, well maybe some silliness. However, what have I said now that got you attention? you are definitely on your oneseys in that, correct my score-keeping behind, but! you set your gris-gris and brought Johnny Damn Depp to your hand, to your veryownself, missy and now you have these swell mems of TnT (he is the very big one, right?)right very dadgum close by your Imperial ownself==so explain to me why you didn't buy lottery tickets, a fistful!!
I say this becos it's my fond desire and dream to travel to France and it'll be so much easier if you will just win a sizeable chunk of change and volunteer to be wild with your considerable winnings, taking all of us with you when you go for your next audience with Mr. Depp and Miz Vanessa. Don't you think so? Also, we, er, you should keep back a little for either a tutor or a proxy to finish up this semester, if you get those lottery tickets. You have the light, what you will, it seems, will be.
All I'm doing is stating the obvious--Hoist your colours, baby PiDi, work that gris-gris. By the by, is your face still hurting from smiling so much? I know mine is a bit becos of your posts. Ta dearie, it's a good life, innit?
lol...living in Cali does have its perks! but its takes work to meet these amazing Celebs! I truly have been fortunate to have been in the presence of such amazing people! 🙂
Lottery tickets? maybe i should try it...lol...n if i do win i dont see why we all cant go to France!! lol....sounds like fun...I'm Game!! 😄
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayk2DrOORE
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I finally got round to doing a new sparrabeth video 🙂
Took me a while, but i think im back on track lol.
'Cant turn back' by Speedway.