Sparrabeth

Started by PirateDiva300 pages

Originally posted by katelovespirate
I was just re-reading the DMC script...

"The kiss continues all the way to the mast of the ship.

An incredible kiss. A kiss for the ages. A kiss that has been building since Jack and Elizabeth met.

They break the kiss. Jack looks at Elizabeth, knowledge of his fate already in his eyes--

-- there is a CLICK--

Jack glances down. Elizabeth has manacled his wrists, chaining him to the mast.

Jack looks into her eyes, desiring her all the more, knowing her true heart is the same as his. Elizabeth can't hold his gaze...

OH THE HOTNESS!!!! THE TENSION!!!!! IT really was a kiss for the ages...

*eyes roll back and faints*

Jack and Liz just took on a whole other level in my perspective! It's one thing to see the passion on screen but then reading the script and getting into their heads, OMG! It's MIND BLOWING! *faints again!*

Hmm, I wonder if there is some reason no deleted scenes were included in the DMC or AWE dvds? The secrets of AWE seem to be just that, secrets. Seeing some first drafts would have been very interesting, especially since AWE short-changed us on EVERY relationship, not just the sparrabeth.

well, the scary thing is, we DID have about the first third of the script in our hot little hands well before the film came out, I think most of us were (or at least I was) convinced it couldn't possibly be the real deal--- or at least, it was an early draft bearing no connection to the movie that would be filmed... but as it turns out, it was nearly word for word the film, except for several sparrabethical lines that were seemingly removed...

re-reading the DMC script, someone just dropped the ball with continuity there. We aren't crazed fans seeing something that wasn't there. it was WRITTEN to be there, and we see that clearly in DMC. so why this strange leap in AWE to trying to convince us we were wrong all along? it was their script to begin with. I just don't get what the plan was there--- most likely there was no plan and they realized they were taking the film somewhere they couldn't really resolve disney style, and so backtracked or whatever. lol. what a mess.

Anybody still have those 60-odd pages? Maybe we could make sense of some reason, any reason, why certain scenes would be cut.

It's not just the sparrabeth, but all relationship/character building seemed to take a backseat. In COTBP, they took about 10 minutes out of the film just to explore Jack and Elizabeth's budding relationship, no plot at all there. We're not willabethers here, but that below-decks scene between them in that movie really seems to delve into their relationship. We sense their attraction to each that has had to be pent up, some foreshadowing that maybe Liz does things without seeing how Will feels about them, and Will gets the whole conflict about having pirate blood in him.

In DMC, the whole freakin' movie is character development! We knew there was some real significance to Beckett in spite of how little we saw him. Gov Swann got to get into the action a little bit. Will and Bootstrap had like how many scenes together? The whole 3-way sword fight is so symbolic and says a lot about the characters.

AWE? What do we get? Exposition, exposition, someone kisses Liz, they die. More exposition, a would-be gunfight cut short by water, someone kisses Liz, they die, etc. What happened?

I have the early draft of AWE and things that Terry and Ted wrote during that time saved on my computer.

well then what ya waiting for hun!! SHARE SHARE SHARE!! lol

I just feel so sad....why did AWE have to turn out the way it did....I wish there was no such thing as AWE....cuz it ruined the entire trilogy for me....when I watch COTBP and DMC....it's sad to think how it all ends for three of them.....

Okie! I don't know how I would share? It's quite long. I guess I could just take up a bunch of space. Oh wellz. Here is the first part and I'll do the rest later cause I'm going to bed. 🙂

"Thanks, all, for your compliments about Terry's and my work. Truth be told, the reason I posted in this thread is because of the quality of the draft that was posted. Like I said, it was needed for budget and scheduling purposes only, but it's nowhere near to being anything Terry and I would deliver to a studio otherwise -- let alone be content to have shot (there's already significant differences between what's been shot and what's in that draft; for instance, no one brings Will to Sao Feng as a prisoner).

Generally, I don't lurk on any fansites, for a number of reasons (although it's a nice to know they exist ...), but, also like I said: I would not want anyone forming impressions or making judgments about the third movie based on that draft. "Rough" doesn't even begin to describe it adequately.

-Start-

Pirates of the Caribbean 3: Script--Early Draft

EXT. SINGAPORE HARBOR - WHARF – NIGHT

Asian junks jammed into raised, crisscrossing docks. Weird shadows cast by hanging lamps.

Amid the pylons, ELIZABETH SWANN pilots a small boat with a long pole. She moves through the maze of ropes, stairways, rafts and skiffs. It's Singapore harbor, a place of danger and decadence, mystery and magic.
Elizabeth sings softly and very slowly

ELIZABETH
(singing)
Come all ye young fellers that follows the sea

She waits, listening.

Silence.

Again she sings –

ELIZABETH
Come all ye young fellers that follows the sea

A VOICE IN THE DARK answers, completes the line

MAN (Off Screen)
(singing).
Way! Hey! Blow the man down

Elizabeth changes course, toward the voice. The singer is an ASIAN MAN crouched on a platform. Cleaning fish, guts up to his elbows. He raises his eyes to Elizabeth. Points.

Elizabeth pushes off in that direction. Sings the next line –

ELIZABETH
I've a deep water Clipper just in from Hong Kong

ANOTHER VOICE in the dark before her answers.

OLD MAN(Off Screen)
Give us the time and we'll blow the man down

The OLD MAN washes clothes on floating dock; she gestures for Elizabeth to continue on her path. Elizabeth sings:

ELIZABETH
If you'll give me some grog, then I'll sing ye a song

A DARK FIGURE stands on the dock before her.

DARK FIGURE (Off Screen)
To my way, hey, blow the man down!

The Figure turns -- is revealed to be BARBOSSA. He is flanked by half a dozen Chiese SOLDIERS. Barbossa nods, gestures at the boat - -

BARBOSSA
Bring him.

Pintel and Ragetti stand up in the boat. Reveal - -

A HOODED PRISONER, bound, between them in the boat. He is lifted out. They start to move forward - -

- - but one of the SOLDIERS holds up a hand. Twirls a finger for the Prisoner to be turned away. The Soldier RIPS AWAY the Prisoner's shirt - -

Revealed on the Prisoner's back is an elaborate TATTOO of a DRAGON.

The Soldier nods - - this is the right guy. They start forward.

CLOSE ON: the Prisoner listens to the FOOTSTEPS around him, taking in his situation by sound - -

Suddenly the Prisoner pushes away from his guards, knocks down the Soldier. Pulls his bound hands down around his feet, bringing his hands to the front - - grabs a sword from the Soldier, and jumps up to a fighting pose - -
other Soldiers attack - - amazingly, the Prisoner, even blinded by the hood, and with both hands bound in front, is able to deflect their blades.

Barbossa rolls his eyes.

BARBOSSA (Off Screen)
Don't fight him one at a time. Rush him all at once, all of you.

Soldier rush the Prisoner and he is overwhelmed, falls to the dock. Elizabeth presses a knife under his chin, letting him feet it - -

ELIZABETH
You don't realize, do you?
It doesn't matter to us if you are alive or dead.

The Prisoner lets go of the sword. He is dragged to his feet, and pushed along the dock - -

INT. TEMPLE – NIGHT

Barbossa leads the group into a modest temple. Plain floor and walls, bamboo tapestries.

Opposite him is CAPTAIN SAO FENG, notorious Chinese Pirate - - flanked by his PIRATE SOLDIERS. Behind Sao Feng, sitting on a raised throne is a young, beautiful Chiense DRAGON LADY. She says nothing - - and misses nothing.

Barbossa bows before the Dragon Lady.

BARBOSSA
My Lady. I am pleased to return and see you are well. I bring you a gift - - the treacherous Lang Si, who slayed your brother many years ago.

Soldier turn the Prisoner around - - revealing the dragon tattoo. Many of the soldiers react, scowl in anger - - Sao Feng holds up a hand.

SAO FENG
The Lady thanks you.

BARBOSSA
And does the depth of her generosity extend to a gift in return? Perhaps the charts we discussed?

Sao Feng opens a satchel, revealing a set of charts inside.

SAO FENG
The charts are here. the Lady knows of your interest in Jack Sparrow, who is known to us as a scoundrel and evildoer and who himself has a price on his head.

Elizabeth pushes forward.

ELIZABETH
How much?

Sao Feng focuses on Elizabeth. Looks at Barbossa.

SAO FENG
I command your choice in a traveling companion. I fear we chose the wrong payment.

BARBOSSA
The Wench is not for sale at this moment.

ELIZABETH
Wench?

Barbossa implores her to silence with a look.

BARBOSSA
The charts?

SAO FENG
I can tell you that Jack Sparrow resides in Davy Jones’ Locker, which lies on the path to the Land of the Dead.

BARBOSSA
Just like Jack, to cheat death.

SAO FENG
He will suffer for eternity. Some say Death would be kinder. but Davy Jones never gives up what he takes from the sea.

BARBOSSA
Let me see the charts.

Captain Sao Feng smiles.

SAO FENG
How do we know your quest was successful? The Lady desires to look upon this coward.

Barbossa pulls a pistol. Swords are drawn in response. But - - Barbossa aims the pistol at the Prisoner.

BARBOSSA
The Lady desires revenge. Hard over the charts, or Lang Si dies and the Lady will be robbed of her satisfaction.

Pintel and Ragetti, on opposite sides of the Prisoner, edge away from the Prisoner.

Sao Feng regards Barbossa he plays with an intricate Chinese knot pendant on a string around his neck. Shakes his head. he closes the satchel.

SAO FENG
No.

It's a stand-off. One of the Chinese soldiers notices something, stares at the Prisoner's back.

Sweat on his back. The Tattooed Dragon is melting.

The Soldier catches Sao Feng's eye. Shakes his head slightly.

Sao Feng raises an eyebrow.

SAO FENG
Kill them.

His soldiers swarm around him to attack - -

The prisoner, still hooded, dodges an attack. Elizabeth defends against two soldiers, takes a sword down one as he falls. She turns and SLASHES at the Prisoner - -

- - cutting the Prisoner's bonds and throwing him a sword.
The Prisoner yanks off the hood - -

- -it is WILL TURNER.

Elizabeth and Will smile at each other. Then spin to fight back to back - -

Barbossa takes on Sao Feng as Elizabeth darts in the grab the Charts. She is cut off by two Guards. Will goes to her rescue - - and now there are a half dozen soldiers surrounding the Charts. Sao Feng makes note of this - -

The Dragon Lady watches it all, never flinching.

WILL
Back! To the doors!

The group is quickly outnumbered and overwhelmed. Pintel and Ragetti cut a path to the door - -

EXT. SINGAPORE - DOCKS – NIGHT

Our heroes flee down ramps, up ladders, swing on ropes.
Elizabeth and Barbossa fight through an array of Pirates.
Pintel and Ragetti fight and also gleefully knock stuff over.
Will holds off a group, and then swings away on a rope - -

- - and comes face-to-face with Captain Sao Feng.

The two of them cross blades.

They fight their way across a platform and CRASH through a window.

INT. PLATFORM HUT – NIGHT

Will and Sao Feng stand. But a weird thing - - they don't continue the fight. Instead, Sao Feng pulls out - - the Charts.
He glances at Will.

WILL
I will deliver Jack Sparrow. There is no love lost between us.

SAO FENG
I wish you luck.(eyes a window) Shall we?

Will smiles, the two of them race toward the window on the other side of the shack - -

EXT. SINGAPORE HARBOR – NIGHT

- - Will and Sao Feng crash through the window, roll, and come up fighting. Will cuts Sao Feng's sword away, and races off. Sao Feng calls out - -

SAO FENG
I see him! Follow me - - this way!

SOLDIERS appear - - and Sao Feng leads them in the opposite direction Will took.

EXT. SINGAPORE - DOCK – NIGHT

Will hooks back up with Barbossa and Elizabeth.

WILL
I have the Charts.

BARBOSSA
I'm impressed, Mister Turner.

WILL
You have us a ship?

BARBOSSA
Aye, we're got a ship.

They race around the corner, and revealed before them is - -
- - the HAI PENG, an old, decrepit Chinese JUNK with patched sails.

TIA DALMA is on board, and has the ship pulling away from the dock.

WILL
It's junk!

BARBOSSA
Aye.

WILL
No, I mean, it really is junk..

BARBOSSA
She's a strong spirit. she'll take us to the edge of the world! Or perhaps you'd
rather stay here?

SOLDIERS appear; they are chased along the docks, leap onto the ship - - a narrow escape from Singapore!

EXT. HAI PENG - DECK – NIGHT

Will looks back - - CHINESE SAILORS line the docks, there are dozens of ships nearby, but none of them pursue.

ELIZABETH
Why aren't we being followed?

TIA DALMA
There is something on the seas that even the most staunch and bloodthirsty pirates have come to fear."

Finally finished Kate's vid request!! 😄😄😄

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZhpL7NOq0

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i4D7yXmiWfw&feature=related

Huh, I didn't notice this before. I pulled up the COTBP blooper reel for some laughs and that whole bit in AWE where like every main character shouts "Fire!" is a callback to COTBP. Just when I thought we had found all the connections.

I Love Sparrabeth!!! <3 I need to livin this place up!!!

Originally posted by katelovespirate
well, the scary thing is, we DID have about the first third of the script in our hot little hands well before the film came out, I think most of us were (or at least I was) convinced it couldn't possibly be the real deal--- or at least, it was an early draft bearing no connection to the movie that would be filmed... but as it turns out, it was nearly word for word the film, except for several sparrabethical lines that were seemingly removed...

re-reading the DMC script, someone just dropped the ball with continuity there. We aren't crazed fans seeing something that wasn't there. it was WRITTEN to be there, and we see that clearly in DMC. so why this strange leap in AWE to trying to convince us we were wrong all along? it was their script to begin with. I just don't get what the plan was there--- most likely there was no plan and they realized they were taking the film somewhere they couldn't really resolve disney style, and so backtracked or whatever. lol. what a mess.

lol I still cant believe we managed to find out exactly how the movie ended like 3 months before relase, im surprised T&T didnt actually hunt us down..I got booted off Wordplayer cuz I was teasing ted he was sayin one thing and i said what really happened, dropping little hints about Will Jr and Tia having a crab problem and he booted me off lmao

still not revealing my source to that script hehe, i knew it was 100% legit because it was confirmed to me

lol rememebr that thread where we revealed that Will dies in AWE after he married Liz

people were sooo upset us sparrabeth fans were crying because it meant no J/E and the will fans were crying cuz will was dead..everyone was heart broken

lmao oh memories

then people from KTTC started spying on us, the bastards actually banned me for my theories on that site and then like a week later i got the salmon script and knew the ending and they were all here sweet talkign me trying to get me to send it to them..(someone from KTTC tipped me off about that)

lol!! Oh Wow Lovelyone I love how you randomly turn up on here every once in a while!! lol...Good to see ya again!!

And Ya I remember all those heart wrentching moments when we'd find out info that destroyed us and other times when we would get sooo excited and our hopes would get rejuvenated...lol! *sighs* those were the days! I also remember when this forum would suddenly burst out into huge fights and everyone would lash out at each other! Oh the drama! lol....I miss a lot of the girls i got to meet here and that stop comin 🙁

Hi, lovelyone! Long time, no see.

I visited kttc just to see what it was like. It was surprisingly active in spite of the fact nearly a year has gone by since AWE came out. What shocked me is that they've actually banned sparrabeth threads. They've banned all shipping threads, actually, stating that it causes too much debate and they wanted to stick to "canon." There are some interesting things they're talking about on there, but I was so surprised at the lack of shipping. There wasn't even a thread acting as a shrine to Will/Liz. What's the deal there?

lmao oh yeah those fights piratediva..i would start most of them ha

willofthewisp, I have no idea whats going on in KTTC cuz I cant even veiw the forum loool

but that doesnt surprise me with what you said, they are control freaks over there.

I know POTC isn't really a romance series per se, but romance transcends all genres. It can happen in any movie you see regardless of what the main plot is. So it seems to me that it is a huge topic worth discussing that they have decided to not even open up.

Hell, the whole first movie wouldn't have even happened if romance wasn't an issue. As much a sparrabether as I am, it is Will's love for Elizabeth that makes him go after her in the first place and get involved with Jack. I watched the COTBP commentary for the first time a few days ago and T&T had some interesting things to say about the last scene where Will helps Jack escape the hanging. They said that for Elizabeth, all the events that have happened to her should have pretty much made her disillusioned with pirates, but what she wants is the "storybook pirate," the pirate with a cause who is more like a Robin Hood. They said in the first movie, only Will fits that description because he does not commit piracy for greed, but for other people. He resorts to piracy to save her, and then actually puts his own life on the line to save Jack at the end. So there you go.

DMC? Do I have to tell anyone here how big a part the classic love triangle plays in this one? I'm not a fan of the compass and I would love to have seen someone smash it to bits in AWE, but the whole reason Jack is struggling with getting the key and chest for himself is that his compass isn't helping him out. There is SOMETHING he wants that is competing with his very desire to SURVIVE. That's huge.

AWE? Well, I'll give to to KTTC that there isn't as much romance in this one. There's not much of anything in this one but exposition and crabs. But this is the only movie in the series to actually have a wedding (of sorts) in it. The entire climax is based on the love the trio feel for each other, each one pulling through for the other. It can be argued that Jack sacrificed his immortality just as much for Elizabeth (if not solely for her) as he did for Will. Combine that with the elements of the curse and you have an adventure movie relying very strongly on romance.

To paraphrase Aida, every story is essentially a love story.

exactly, the love story will always stand out in a film, its a pretty major part of all 3 IMO..not so much AWE like you said but its still how it ends for W/E

so true about the compass..dude obviously wants love

It really must be, lovelyone, because self-preservation trumps just about everything. I know T&T have said that if you really, really want a waffle for just a second, the compass will point to it, but if you have a waffle on one side of you and on the other is the route that will get you out of a life/death/soul situation, which one would normally win out? I'm not saying the compass always points to the heart's desire. That's been debunked. I'm just saying that his lust/love or whatever Jack is supposed to feel for Liz is strong enough to rival even his soul. Being trapped on the Dutchman is basically death and hell all rolled into one.

yuh huh

i wonder if pitares 4 will explore that some more, even if Liz is in it or not.