Rethinking the PT - Alliance Speaks

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What I have to say is this.

For those of you where were expecting a reworking of Lucas' PT, I'm not going to do that. Star Wars is Lucas artistic piece, I'm not going to do a physical retool of his work as it is, ultimately, his work. I don't think its fair to him as an artist. However, I am going to recontextualize the fall of Anakin.

What I intend to do, which was WHY this was in the PT forum is to envision another story similar to the PT, one that corrects for the mistakes of the PT. I believe you will find incredible parallels between Manek and Anakin. In most ways, Manek is Anakin. This story is meant as if the PT was made as a stand-alone saga, without the OT bearing down on it.

While the characters may be EU, the plot and the message is not. This story was specifically created by me to reflect on the PT, not to expand it or to flesh out unneeded detail, but to present a correct picture of the PT that explains Anakin's fall.

You will find that each of my chapters has the same intent and purpose as TPM, AOTC, and ROTS, but presents an argument that describes Anakin's fall that is much more convincing than what Lucas attemped to pass by us.

In many ways, Manek is Anakin, simply a version of him that does not infringe on Lucas' artistic freedom and work.

I should have explained this earlier before everyone went "WHOA! EU!"

Thats what distinguishes this from a "My First Fan-Fic" and "Rethinking the PT" The characters may be different, (EU, so to say), but this is meant to directly parallel and speak to the PT, to redefine the context of Anakin Skywalker and his fall in realistic and more convincing terms.

So, when does Obi-wan get to meet him?

Is it in the arena, or on Tatooine?

Where's Mace?

No Padme?

Originally posted by Alliance
What I have to say is this.

For those of you where were expecting a reworking of Lucas' PT, I'm not going to do that. Star Wars is Lucas artistic piece, I'm not going to do a physical retool of his work as it is, ultimately, his work. I don't think its fair to him as an artist. However, I am going to recontextualize the fall of Anakin.

What I intend to do, which was WHY this was in the PT forum is to envision another story similar to the PT, one that corrects for the mistakes of the PT. I believe you will find incredible parallels between Manek and Anakin. In most ways, Manek is Anakin. This story is meant as if the PT was made as a stand-alone saga, without the OT bearing down on it.

While the characters may be EU, the plot and the message is not. This story was specifically created by me to reflect on the PT, not to expand it or to flesh out unneeded detail, but to present a correct picture of the PT that explains Anakin's fall.

You will find that each of my chapters has the same intent and purpose as TPM, AOTC, and ROTS, but presents an argument that describes Anakin's fall that is much more convincing than what Lucas attemped to pass by us.

In many ways, Manek is Anakin, simply a version of him that does not infringe on Lucas' artistic freedom and work.

I should have explained this earlier before everyone went "WHOA! EU!"

Thats what distinguishes this from a "My First Fan-Fic" and "Rethinking the PT" The characters may be different, (EU, so to say), but this is meant to directly parallel and speak to the PT, to redefine the context of Anakin Skywalker and his fall in realistic and more convincing terms.

So basically what you are saying is that you have no life and because of that you decide to do the PT but with your own characters because for some reason you can't get over the fact that the PT didn't live up to your high standards because for some reason you expected so much even though the OT has Return of the Jedi (the Emperor's best soldiers got defeated by two foot tall Ewoks and yet everyone complains about Gungans).

Go ahead and write your little Star Wars story.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
So basically what you are saying is that you have no life and because of that you decide to do the PT but with your own characters because for some reason you can't get over the fact that the PT didn't live up to your high standards because for some reason you expected so much even though the OT has Return of the Jedi (the Emperor's best soldiers got defeated by two foot tall Ewoks and yet everyone complains about Gungans).

Go ahead and write your little Star Wars story.

So basically, what you're saying is... you're a troll.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
So, when does Obi-wan get to meet him?
Is it in the arena, or on Tatooine?
Where's Mace?
No Padme?
Spoiler:
Manek will meet Kenobi at the Jedi Academy. Mace will not be a major figure in the story until Manek enters the Jedi Academy. Padmé will likely only be mentioned in passing, she may play a small role.

Again, I have a slightly different vision that Lucas. TPM mostly took place on Tatooine and ends with Anakins acceptance into the Academy.

Spoiler:
Without giving away too much, the same will happen to Manek
Master apprentice relationships will be a little different. Skywalker is already Kenobi's apprentice. My vision of Jedi training is slightly different from the PT's version.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
So basically what you are saying is that you have no life and because of that you decide to do the PT but with your own characters because for some reason you can't get over the fact that the PT didn't live up to your high standards because for some reason you expected so much even though the OT has Return of the Jedi (the Emperor's best soldiers got defeated by two foot tall Ewoks and yet everyone complains about Gungans).

Go ahead and write your little Star Wars story.

You very much misinterpret me and my point of doing this. This did not start as an "I haxxor Lucas" project. It started as an art project and far superceeded myexpectations as well as scope.

It may never be finished, but I'd like to share the work I've done.

Then please Alliance, share with those of us who will read/listen. Just make sure you have some type of Grievous character 😛

I recieved thiw question through a PM.


What's the problem with using Anakin as a main character? That would be interesting to see. Who cares about a Zabrak?

Everyone already has preconceptions abou who Anakin is, what he should be doing.

By starting with a new character, I get a clean slate, instead of having Lucas' epic character bearing down on me. It also gives me the opportunity to develop the character as I want, instead of having to rebuild into the actual PT.

By doing it this way, I can present a character as Anakin should have been presented. Not only can I comment on Anakin through Manek, but I can actually have him interact with Anakin.

So much of Anakin has been written by Lucas, there's not much gold for me there, just fanboys wet dreams. Manek allows me to show in incredible detail WHY Anakin became Vader. The environment that drove him there. Honestly, if I can't redo Lucas' saga, but I can reinterpret it in a way that makes sense.

Who cares about a Zabrak? Who cares about a little sh!t from Tatooine? You'll start caring when you meet the character, as shoulod have happend in the PT.

Originally posted by General G
Then please Alliance, share with those of us who will read/listen. Just make sure you have some type of Grievous character 😛

Oh Grievous will most certainly play a major role.

You will also find two direct criticisms of Grievous. Druj and Aru.

Alliance, man don't listen to the haters out there. Obviously they're jealous that they don't have the fortitude to creativity to create something such as this. They're the type that have no imagination and when they were younger, they didn't have their own imaginary friends, so they had to play with other people's.

So basically what they're saying is, even though you're creating something because you have no life, they're going to criticize you for making it, because, ultimately, they have no life.

Well I take that back, trolling is a very time consuming project, especially when trolling someone "with no life".

I guess in their eyes, every single person that made a fan film of some sort has no life, yet they take the time to watch it, as they're taking the time to read this....toolboxes.

Do ya thing Alliance.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Do ya thing Alliance.

Thanks, I will 😄.

It was a major shock going from last nights high to this morning's "shove it in the EU forum"

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Alliance, man don't listen to the haters out there. Obviously they're jealous that they don't have the fortitude to creativity to create something such as this. They're the type that have no imagination and when they were younger, they didn't have their own imaginary friends, so they had to play with other people's.

So basically what they're saying is, even though you're creating something because you have no life, they're going to criticize you for making it, because, ultimately, they have no life.

Well I take that back, trolling is a very time consuming project, especially when trolling someone "with no life".

I guess in their eyes, every single person that made a fan film of some sort has no life, yet they take the time to watch it, as they're taking the time to read this....toolboxes.

Do ya thing Alliance.

ESB-1138 got pwnd here.

Alliance...you still working on this, man?

I haven't seen him around for a while, his profile says he hasn't been on since the 17th, let's assume he is making this major peice of art that we will all love and enjoy and that you can't rush greatness.

this is true...

Or maybe he left us sitting here wondering forever! 😐

bastard! he's like, "those fools..muaahahahahahaha...i have them waiting like idiots!! right where I want them, lol!!!"

so he's a meanie head. oh well...hopefully he's still working on it.

😂

All we can do is hope...

Sounds abit like Spartacus in space... doesn't it?

All too much

Well, we'll see how it goes.

All we can do is wait now...