Superman: Man of Steel

Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman killing Zod is justified within the context of the film. There was no Justice League, no kryptonite, no depowerment, no Phantom Zone - nothing that could have stopped him, and Superman was the only force that could stand against him. That was made quite clear, and the decision to kill Zod was forced on Superman, who really had no other way.

But, like I've already said, this shouldn't have happened on the part of the writers. "How can we put Superman in a situation where he must kill?" misses the idea of the character completely.

I know Superman is a fantasy character. Yet it's not realistic to have a character who fights the villians he does not to be put in a situation where he may have to kill them. There comes a time when an enemy can only be stopped by killing them.

If that never occurs Superman becomes more distant and unrealistic to us....(again I know I'm talking about a flying man who shoots fire out of his eyes.) 😄

I think it's ridiculous to portray Superman as always having a way without killing. Killing should be the last resort but not off the table completely. Just look at the real heroes out there fighting the bad guys. Sometimes they have to kill the bad guys. I don't see them as any less of a hero.

Originally posted by Redwolf
Just look at the real heroes out there fighting the bad guys. Sometimes they have to kill the bad guys. I don't see them as any less of a hero.

I do. Because 9/10 times there's no need for it at all.

Originally posted by Redwolf
I know Superman is a fantasy character. Yet it's not realistic to have a character who fights the villians he does not to be put in a situation where he may have to kill them. There comes a time when an enemy can only be stopped by killing them.

If that never occurs Superman becomes more distant and unrealistic to us....(again I know I'm talking about a flying man who shoots fire out of his eyes.) 😄

I think it's ridiculous to portray Superman as always having a way without killing. Killing should be the last resort but not off the table completely. Just look at the real heroes out there fighting the bad guys. Sometimes they have to kill the bad guys. I don't see them as any less of a hero.

And Supes didn't take it lightly. At first I was upset that he killed Zod, but his reaction immediately after was perfect.

Originally posted by stickman618
And Supes didn't take it lightly. At first I was upset that he killed Zod, but his reaction immediately after was perfect.

You could tell that he really didn't want to do it, but he had no choice. You can see that he was filled with regret.

Hopefully they focus on this a bit more in the sequel.

I found it strange that he felt he had to kill Zod at that moment rather than before when Zod threatened the entire Earth or when they were destroying buildings without regard for whoever was in them if I recall the film correctly.

I think Supes was still trying to overpower and subdue Zod before he "awakened". After that, shit got real.

And yeah, I never really liked how Supes never tried to take the battle away from the city.

Sorry guys but for all the bashing about the too much action, people really ignored everything but the action..

This is a new take on Superman. It's a new version of the Kents. Pa Kent is not Uncle Ben. He's not teaching Clark heroic values, rather he's more interested in keeping Clark safe in order for a better future. He'll be something the human race looks up to. That does not translate into saving each and every person. When Clark tried, he was reprimanded..

Clark is not fighting to save every person he sees unlike previous incarnations. He's fighting to fight for humanity, not to save it.

Whether people like it is obviously subject to opinion but people are viewing the movie as if it were pre-Crisis Superman. He's not. He's different in a myriad of subtle ways.

I think it was Angry Joe who said it's best to look at this as an "Else-worlds" title instead of comparing every little thing to past incarnations.

Originally posted by Based
Sorry guys but for all the bashing about the too much action, people really ignored everything but the action..

Originally posted by stickman618
I think it was Angry Joe who said it's best to look at this as an "Else-worlds" title instead of comparing every little thing to past incarnations.

It is a whole new Superman.

SMH.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
IKR? The complaints of some of the past Superman movies (like Returns) was that there wasn't enough action (fight scenes and such). Now they're complaining that there's too much with MoS? Make up your minds people.

It's hard to make people happy.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's hard to make people happy.

Originally posted by Vensai
More like its impossible to please everyone, especially fan bases.

Nah, it happens. Marvel got away with mediocre films like Captain America or the Hulk and a straight up bad one in IM2 and no one bats an eye.

Originally posted by Redwolf
I know Superman is a fantasy character. Yet it's not realistic to have a character who fights the villians he does not to be put in a situation where he may have to kill them. There comes a time when an enemy can only be stopped by killing them.

If that never occurs Superman becomes more distant and unrealistic to us....(again I know I'm talking about a flying man who shoots fire out of his eyes.) 😄

I think it's ridiculous to portray Superman as always having a way without killing. Killing should be the last resort but not off the table completely. Just look at the real heroes out there fighting the bad guys. Sometimes they have to kill the bad guys. I don't see them as any less of a hero.

Maybe the film directors don't want to rely on PIS to save every life possible. Damned if you do...

Originally posted by Based
Maybe the film directors don't want to rely on PIS to save every life possible. Damned if you do...

Wow Ben Affleck has been confirmed as the new Batman for man of steel 2. oh god..

just, oh god, lol.