Atheists and Theists

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
I disagree - Cosmology is more of a philosopy than it is a science. It is essentially a naturalistic philosophy - applied to a universal setting. There are aspects of quantum mechanics and physical sciences which are applied to it, however, even with these - it still has very huge gaps in it(logical and scientific) - and leaves even more unanswered philosophical questions - than any mainstream religious philosophy. (What is life? Why was it created? What is purpose? What is love..etc..etc). All of these questions of course - can't be proven by the physical or natural world.

😱 Let me guess, you have never taken any classes in college on the topic of Cosmology.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 Let me guess, you have never taken any classes in college on the topic of Cosmology.

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Originally posted by Atlantis001
Science has nothing to do with atheism.

I never thought about this, but this is actually rather important. Science indeed has nothing to do with atheism.

Atheism is complitelly irrelevant to Science.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I never thought about this, but this is actually rather important. Science indeed has nothing to do with atheism.

Atheism is complitelly irrelevant to Science.

Yeah, though the Scientific Method is used by Atheism to support its cause. Correctly so, I would claim.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I never thought about this, but this is actually rather important. Science indeed has nothing to do with atheism.

Atheism is complitelly irrelevant to Science.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You guess correct.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, though the Scientific Method is used by Atheism to support its cause. Correctly so, I would claim.

Scientific method? No.

AS I said earlier -

Scientific approach is the one which one cannot take in regards to things which are not strictly scientific. ie, make an empirical investigations of things in search for results which in nature cannot be empirically obtained.

God in nature cannot be empirically obtained, thus Atheists are NOT using scientific method.
Social sciences can't use ''scientific'' method, for the same reason.

And I said Atheism is irrelevant to science, not other way around. Science has no use for Atheism, as it has no use for any kind of belief - which as you were arguing few pages back, atheism is a ''belief'' that God does not exist.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I must ask you, what do you think an Atheist is, describe me Atheist in your own words.

One who does not believe in god, or denies existance of God.

Which is why I agreed. Though you can use probabilities in social studies as well as in talking about metaphysical things. Which is basically using science. Mathematics to be exact. And it is scientific.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 I've never won anything. happycrytissue

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
One who does not believe in god, or denies existance of God.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Religious scientists who base their beliefs strictly on the empirical - are indeed weak agnotics. The roots of all the sciences being grounded of course by religious philosophy - be they grounded on natural or on spiritual origin(s).

Fixed. For the purpose of further clarification.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Fixed. For the purpose of further clarification.

Don't worry, we got over it. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 Let me guess, you have never taken any classes in college on the topic of Cosmology.

Meh - I've studied a bit - as well have read a bit regarding it. Now comes the part where you give me your creditials(and how they relate to the subject of Cosmology) - as well as the part where I wait for the *facts* and *evidence*(from thyself) proving thy position to be the correct one. Based on prior discussions we've had - Me thinks that once again, thyself and myself are in for a looooong wait..He..He..He..😂

How does using "meh" and "thy" relate?

Originally posted by Bardock42
How does using "meh" and "thy" relate?

Both are stupid?

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Umm..posting a link to *nasa's* website does very little to prove your argument.

This says it all. 😄

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Fixed. For the purpose of further clarification.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Meh - I've studied a bit - as well have read a bit regarding it. Now comes the part where you give me your creditials(and how they relate to the subject of Cosmology) - as well as the part where I wait for the *facts* and *evidence*(from thyself) proving thy position to be the correct one. Based on prior discussions we've had - Me thinks that once again, thyself and myself are in for a looooong wait..He..He..He..😂

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Now comes the part where you give me your creditials --- as well as the part where I wait for the *facts* and *evidence*(from thyself) proving thy position to be the correct one.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Both are stupid?

Thy has given me all of the *facts* and *credentials* necessary - for myself to determine the validity and substance of thy argument, as well as the amount of intellect and wisdom possessed - by the individual(s) asserting it. I shall depart for now. Good day to you sir. And God bless.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
I disagree - Cosmology is more of a philosopy than it is a science. It is essentially a naturalistic philosophy - applied to a universal setting. There are aspects of quantum mechanics and physical sciences which are applied to it, however, even with these - it still has very huge gaps in it(logical and scientific) - and leaves even more unanswered philosophical questions - than any mainstream religious philosophy. (What is life? Why was it created? What is purpose? What is love..etc..etc). All of these questions of course - can't be proven by the physical or natural world.

Its really not that way, cosmology is science. Not philosophy. Religions also have cosmologies but its another kind of cosmology, perhaps you confused the terms. There is nothing about God, purpose or love in cosmology.

It is about the Big Bang, if is the universe expanding or not, if the expansion is accelerated, why it is being accelerated. That kind of thing. I studied a bit of cosmology in the college.

Originally posted by usagi_yojimbo
Thy has given me all of the *facts* and *credentials* necessary - for myself to determine the validity and substance of thy argument, as well as the amount of intellect and wisdom possessed - by the individual(s) asserting it. I shall depart for now. Good day to you sir. And God bless.

What? 😕

You are so strange... I never got into facts or credentials. Do you do this when you get mad? If so, you should take it easy and not let yourself get mad.