Sabretooth vs. Deadpool

Started by srankmissingnin9 pages

Deadpool saying that he "suckered" Wolverine into his attack was trash talking, plain and simple. Deadpool is famous for it, its what he does. It was a verbal retort to Wolverine's boot in mouth line. It was a witty come back and it wasn't meant to be taken literal. For Christ's sake Deadpool was on d the entire fight, he was reacting to Wolverine, not the other way around... so how on earth does he "sucker" Wolverine into something when Logan is leading him around the dance floor? Nothing on panel supports it, all their is is a throw a way one liner from a guy who talks more trash then Spider-man and makes half as much sense.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool saying that he "suckered" Wolverine into his attack was trash talking, plain and simple. Deadpool is famous for it, its what he does. It was a verbal retort to Wolverine's boot in mouth line. It was a witty come back and it wasn't meant to be taken literal. For Christ's sake Deadpool was on d the entire fight, he was [b]reacting to Wolverine, not the other way around... so how on earth does he "sucker" Wolverine into something when Logan is leading him around the dance floor? Nothing on panel supports it, all their is is a throw a way one liner from a guy who talks more trash then Spider-man and makes half as much sense. [/B]

And the trash talk isnt as funny or witty as spideys... that said sabretooth wins

Originally posted by fsufan89
And the trash talk isnt as funny or witty as spideys... that said sabretooth wins

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Deadpool's comics are a HELL of a lot funnier than Spiderman's.

🤨

Deadpool wins

Originally posted by jinzin

don't be mad about what happened... all I did was state what friggin happened.. it's pretty simple.

I'm not mad. But when he says that none of you were trying to say that Wolverine had the edge in that fight, I don't buy it.

Originally posted by jinzin
why not?.. he clearly read and understood the post unlike someone else who comes to mind.. 😏

I know, Srank can be dense sometimes 😕

Originally posted by Ize19
So what you're saying is, in that particular fight, Deadpool had the tactical edge? And if that's the case, do you see this fight as being evidence of Deadpool's superiority in fighting ability?

I see DP as having the tactical edge in that battle. I also see him having superior fighting ability, but I wouldn't use that as my pillar of evidence, because I know what the fanboys will cry out. 😬

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool saying that he "suckered" Wolverine into his attack was trash talking, plain and simple. Deadpool is famous for it, its what he does. It was a verbal retort to Wolverine's boot in mouth line. It was a witty come back and it wasn't meant to be taken literal. For Christ's sake Deadpool was on d the entire fight, he was [b]reacting to Wolverine, not the other way around... so how on earth does he "sucker" Wolverine into something when Logan is leading him around the dance floor? Nothing on panel supports it, all their is is a throw a way one liner from a guy who talks more trash then Spider-man and makes half as much sense. [/B]

As you say, Wolvy was apparently leading him around the dance floor. But thats how DP suckered him. For that move, he let Wolvy continue on with the upper hand, and then made a really obvious attack point, so that Wolvy would be lured into attacking him. it wasn't a snappy comeback, it was DP's point of triumph

If Deadpool was on the defense, it wasn't suckering but capitalizing on or exploiting a mistake.

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't know about others, but personally to me that strategy is an insult to wolverine's skill.. he doesn't have to take bullets if he doesn't want to.. (look at origins, not one person as landed a bullet shot on the guy yet)

Im sorry im still pissed about that Caps vs Wolverine fight...c'mon man......geezzz

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If Deadpool was on the defense, it wasn't suckering but capitalizing on or exploiting a mistake.

Not necessarily.

Example: We're dancing around the ring, you've been on the offense for the most part, throwing punches, keeping me kinda turtled in.

All I need to do is drop my guard a little bit more on the left, than on the right, and expect for you to try to throw a right hook. I then loop your arm, and drop down for the fireman's carry. Flip you to the ground, still holding your arm, throw a leg over you, and snap your elbow.

Did I sucker you into throwing that right hook, or did I capitilize upon your mistake?

Eh. Both. 🙂.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I see DP as having the tactical edge in that battle. I also see him having superior fighting ability, but I wouldn't use that as my pillar of evidence, because I know what the fanboys will cry out. 😬

So then, in your opinion, saying that this fight should not be counted due to Wolverine's lack of a healing factor, is a fanboy statement? Really? So now we don't have to look at the different factors that go into a fight, if character A won, he's superior, and anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't cut it. Context is everything, and just because someone won one highly situational fight, doesn't mean that anyone that doesn't accept those results as being decisive is a fanboy.

Is it just me, but aren't being a superior taction and fighting skill two different things?

Isn't it fair to say Wolverine was demonstarating superior skill but Deadpool had a more tactical advantage being able to take all of Wolverines attacks looking for an opening. And before you say it Wolverine did show superior skill because it must have taken Deadpool about 3 attempts to finaly bring his plan into action, as logan scored 3 hits or so before then.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Is it just me, but aren't being a superior taction and fighting skill two different things?

Its not just you. Its the truth.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Is it just me, but aren't being a superior taction and fighting skill two different things?

Isn't it fair to say Wolverine was demonstarating superior skill but Deadpool had a more tactical advantage being able to take all of Wolverines attacks looking for an opening. And before you say it Wolverine did show superior skill because it must have taken Deadpool about 3 attempts to finaly bring his plan into action, as logan scored 3 hits or so before then.

Still debatable.

Real-world example. The martial art known as Muay Thai (Thai-style kickboxing). One of its key features is allowing your opponent to strike and hit you. Then you use his very open post-strike position to thrash and destroy him.

My point is it can be argued that Deadpool showed superior or, at the very least, equivalent fighting skill when facing Wolverine.

Edit: But yea. Deadpool is definitely the more tactical fighter.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Still debatable.

Real-world example. The martial art known as Muay Thai (Thai-style kickboxing). One of its key features is allowing your opponent to strike and hit you. Then you use his very open post-strike position to thrash and destroy him.

My point is it can be argued that Deadpool showed superior or, at the very least, equivalent fighting skill when facing Wolverine.

Edit: But yea. Deadpool is definitely the more tactical fighter.

Again though, all this shows is DP had a far better fighting stratagey not that he outskilled Logan.

dp by a mile you suckas

Originally posted by Sparkz
Again though, all this shows is DP had a far better fighting stratagey not that he outskilled Logan.

How so? Would you call a highly-trained and accomplished Muay Thai fighter a worse fighter than an opponent who is well-versed in many styles? Even if this opponent is beat?

Fighting strategy + fighting Style > fighting stylez

Originally posted by Sparkz
Is it just me, but aren't being a superior taction and fighting skill two different things?

Isn't it fair to say Wolverine was demonstarating superior skill but Deadpool had a more tactical advantage being able to take all of Wolverines attacks looking for an opening. And before you say it Wolverine did show superior skill because it must have taken Deadpool about 3 attempts to finaly bring his plan into action, as logan scored 3 hits or so before then.

couldn't have said it better myself...

though I would also say that the argument of deadpool allowing hiself to be hit cause he knows he can take it, is still up for debate.

i have more to say on that but i gotta go right now.

Originally posted by Ize19
So then, in your opinion, saying that this fight should not be counted due to Wolverine's lack of a healing factor, is a fanboy statement? Really? So now we don't have to look at the different factors that go into a fight, if character A won, he's superior, and anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't cut it. Context is everything, and just because someone won one highly situational fight, doesn't mean that anyone that doesn't accept those results as being decisive is a fanboy.

You're right. That wouldn't cut it. But thats not the response I gave. I'm not calling them fanboys because they disagree on why the outcome of the fight was what it was, I'm calling them fanboys because they're willing to go against the blinding obvious just in order to prove that they're character was actually superior.

And like I said, I'm not using this fight as a basis for the belief that DP is ultimatley superior

Originally posted by Soljer
Not necessarily.

Example: We're dancing around the ring, you've been on the offense for the most part, throwing punches, keeping me kinda turtled in.

All I need to do is drop my guard a little bit more on the left, than on the right, and expect for you to try to throw a right hook. I then loop your arm, and drop down for the fireman's carry. Flip you to the ground, still holding your arm, throw a leg over you, and snap your elbow.

Did I sucker you into throwing that right hook, or did I capitilize upon your mistake?

Eh. Both. 🙂.


But what if I have great BJJ?

Deadpool wins.