Tell me how Big Boss is gonna take on and defeat two speedblitzers? One of them has an arm that can sever his head and block bullets (Krauser) and the other can simply take machinegun rounds into him with no effect as well as having a long-reaching spiked-appendage. Krauser and Saddler rip BB to pieces with zero effort.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Tell me how Big Boss is gonna take on and defeat two speedblitzers? One of them has an arm that can sever his head and block bullets (Krauser) and the other can simply take machinegun rounds into him with no effect as well as having a long-reaching spiked-appendage. Krauser and Saddler rip BB to pieces with zero effort.
Explain to me then how Leon survived with his stats then cause last time i checked Big Boss was the ultimate solider.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Tell me how Big Boss is gonna take on and defeat two speedblitzers? One of them has an arm that can sever his head and block bullets (Krauser) and the other can simply take machinegun rounds into him with no effect as well as having a long-reaching spiked-appendage. Krauser and Saddler rip BB to pieces with zero effort.
Well Big Boss was able to defeat invicible spider-like enemy, destroy a HUGE nuclear tank and beat hand-to-hand Volgin that was able to generate 10 000 000 volts electricity and break through walls and tank's armour with ease. And Big Boss's clone beat speefblitzer so I believe BB is capable of that too, as well as dodging or deflecting bullets. Hell even Olga was capable of that. And Krauser was defeated by Leon. If he could do that then Snake would have no problems doing that.
Well Big Boss was able to defeat invicible spider-like enemy, destroy a HUGE nuclear tank and beat hand-to-hand Volgin that was able to generate 10 000 000 volts electricity and break through walls and tank's armour with ease. And Big Boss's clone beat speefblitzer so I believe BB is capable of that too, as well as dodging or deflecting bullets. Hell even Olga was capable of that. And Krauser was defeated by Leon. If he could do that then Snake would have no problems doing that.
First, Leon is not Snake. Just because Leon could does not mean Big Boss could. Also, just because a clone of Big Boss could do something it doesn't mean Big Boss could. Krauser also took that explosion he had rigged after it looked like his heart exploded and Leon left him for dead. He survived that. Big Boss ever survive something on that level? Saddler also could take and shrug off full machinegun rounds as well as barrels of exploding fuel being dumped right on top of him. All that and he didn't even have his robes cinged.
So, yes, Saddler and Krause rboth have a way of blocking bullets which removes most of BB's arsenal. They're both faster than him. Saddler also has a long-range attack.
Big Boss is pretty screwed.
So, the fact that Solid Snake looks identical to BB, has the same voice actor has all of BB's abilities, im guessing that this means everything Snake can do BB can do. They even have the same voice actor!
You say that 'Saddler and Krause rboth have a way of blocking bullets which removes most of BB's arsenal' doesnt the same apply to leon? Ive played and completed Resi 4 and im pretty sure that all you have to fight these two are ranged weapons. So if Leon can do it surly the 'Perfect Solider' can do it.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
First, Leon is not Snake. Just because Leon could does not mean Big Boss could. Also, just because a clone of Big Boss could do something it doesn't mean Big Boss could. Krauser also took that explosion he had rigged after it looked like his heart exploded and Leon left him for dead. He survived that. Big Boss ever survive something on that level? Saddler also could take and shrug off full machinegun rounds as well as barrels of exploding fuel being dumped right on top of him. All that and he didn't even have his robes cinged.So, yes, Saddler and Krause rboth have a way of blocking bullets which removes most of BB's arsenal. They're both faster than him. Saddler also has a long-range attack.
Big Boss is pretty screwed.
First, everything Leon could do Snake could do 3 times better. Second, yes it DOES mean that Big Boss could do that. The Boss was dodgig bullets fairly easilly, and Big Bos can do anything she can, but better. Krauser survived an exposion, big deal. Snake survived Volgin's combos. Concidering that Volgin was able to break Shagohod's armour with his punches (and shagohod's armour can take dozens shots from RBG without being scratched) it's a way more impressive feat. And third, Grey Fox was faster than Snake and probably faster than Krauzer but it didn't stopped Snake from kicking his a$$.
Oh, and blocking bullets is a fifth rate feat in MGS series.
Big boss speed blitzes the island , easily.
Dr Salvador - Minor Annoyance , his Chainsaw get's CQC'd out of his hands and then rammed through his own chest.
Garrador - Slight difficulty simply due to armour plating , but then this is where the RPG comes in 😈
Ganados - Red-shirts , they die in droves.
Del Lago - Killed in the same manner as before
El Gigante - Rpg ftw
Mendez - Shotgun blast to the head , or just a general Claymores and TNT's till he's a corpse.
'Right Hand' - Freeze and Rpg
Salazar - Sniper Rifle and Rpg
Regenerator - Ahh...this is defiently a Patriot job
JJ - Sniper Rifle
Krauser - Survival knife and CQC
Saddler - Rpg
First, everything Leon could do Snake could do 3 times better. Second, yes it DOES mean that Big Boss could do that. The Boss was dodgig bullets fairly easilly, and Big Bos can do anything she can, but better. Krauser survived an exposion, big deal. Snake survived Volgin's combos. Concidering that Volgin was able to break Shagohod's armour with his punches (and shagohod's armour can take dozens shots from RBG without being scratched) it's a way more impressive feat. And third, Grey Fox was faster than Snake and probably faster than Krauzer but it didn't stopped Snake from kicking his a$$.
Don't care. Krauser blocks all of BB's shots with his arm. Saddler impales his head on his spiked-tentacle. Saddler takes all of BB's ammo into him and is totally uneffected while Krauser easily impales him on his arm. It's a pretty simple battle as BB is not as fast as Krauser or Saddler.
Krauser - Survival knife and CQCSaddler - Rpg
Shame the time it takes to raise and aim that weapon will be more than enough for Saddler to blitz him. BB is not faster than Krauser or Saddler. He'll be dead before he knows it.
This is simply a stupid argument. I don't care what Leon or The Boss did. This fight is about Big Boss and Big Boss can not dodge or hit or hurt Saddler and Krauser but they can very easily destroy him.
Anyone play portable ops where the story is cannon after snake eater with big boss? Big Boss faces Null(just like Cyborg ninja) He faces guys deflecting bullets. Ok just watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPJnjhu4QQ8&eurl=
Originally posted by NikkolasOk let's compare durability feats. Liquid Snake got blown up in the helicopter, took a direct shot from STINGER while riding REX, survived fall from top of the REX, then a car crash. Snake survived fall from over 100 meters into the reaver, took punches from Volgin and that's after getting his hand broken and eye shot as well as getting poisont and burnt. His CQC skills allow him to take on 5 armed and trained soldiers with only a knife (without using stealth).
Don't care. Krauser blocks all of BB's shots with his arm. Saddler impales his head on his spiked-tentacle. Saddler takes all of BB's ammo into him and is totally uneffected while Krauser easily impales him on his arm. It's a pretty simple battle as BB is not as fast as Krauser or Saddler.
Originally posted by NikkolasHe can dodge bullets but Krauser is to fast for him? As you see I have reasons to say that Krauzer will get his neck broken before he knows it. It takes someone way more taugh and impressive than Krauser to blitz Snake.
Shame the time it takes to raise and aim that weapon will be more than enough for Saddler to blitz him. BB is not faster than Krauser or Saddler. He'll be dead before he knows it.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Don't care. Krauser blocks all of BB's shots with his arm. Saddler impales his head on his spiked-tentacle. Saddler takes all of BB's ammo into him and is totally uneffected while Krauser easily impales him on his arm. It's a pretty simple battle as BB is not as fast as Krauser or Saddler.Shame the time it takes to raise and aim that weapon will be more than enough for Saddler to blitz him. BB is not faster than Krauser or Saddler. He'll be dead before he knows it.
This is simply a stupid argument. I don't care what Leon or The Boss did. This fight is about Big Boss and Big Boss can not dodge or hit or hurt Saddler and Krauser but they can very easily destroy him.
Do tell how Leon defeated him? With bullets and guns? Then what is the difference from BB doing it?
I must say that their speed is not the primary difficult for BB. If you play PO he faces Cunningham (I think, or Meme) which has the speed at almost Gray Fox rate, he can dodge bullets easily and toss 10 knifes at once, and Null who is like a cyborg ninja. They are easily comparable, Null could also block bullets and had a gun in the other hand!
Originally posted by kamikz
Do tell how Leon defeated him? With bullets and guns? Then what is the difference from BB doing it?I must say that their speed is not the primary difficult for BB. If you play PO he faces Cunningham (I think, or Meme) which has the speed at almost Gray Fox rate, he can dodge bullets easily and toss 10 knifes at once, and Null who is like a cyborg ninja. They are easily comparable, Null could also block bullets and had a gun in the other hand!
you mean Gene, who also had his special powers voice going for him. cunningham just fought on a flying platform.
Ok let's compare durability feats. Liquid Snake got blown up in the helicopter, took a direct shot from STINGER while riding REX, survived fall from top of the REX, then a car crash. Snake survived fall from over 100 meters into the reaver, took punches from Volgin and that's after getting his hand broken and eye shot as well as getting poisont and burnt. His CQC skills allow him to take on 5 armed and trained soldiers with only a knife (without using stealth).
I'd like to see Krauser fighting Volgin and the Boss.
A. Liquid Snake is not a direct clone of Big Boss. He possesses all of his dominant genes. Only Solidus is an exact duplicate of BB.
B. I don’t really care if BB can survive falling 100 meters. Can he survive getting Krauser’s Plagas arm rammed into his skull? I find that unlikely. I also find it unlikely he’ll survive Saddler’s spike effortlesly ripping through his body.
C. I’d like to see Krauser fight The Boss and Volgin too. He’d pretty easily destroy them.
He can dodge bullets but Krauser is to fast for him? As you see I have reasons to say that Krauzer will get his neck broken before he knows it. It takes someone way more taugh and impressive than Krauser to blitz Snake.
You apparently missed the part where Krauser had his heart explode and then that bomb go off right in his face. With his entire body burned he still was jumping around and fighting Ada. Did Big Boss actually bullet-time or just dodge a bullet? Big difference. Krauser moved in a blur and Saddler covered the 20 or so feet between him and Leon in a flash and sent Leon flying another good 5 feet or so with nothing but his palm smacking him in an open-hand strike.
Do tell how Leon defeated him? With bullets and guns? Then what is the difference from BB doing it?
PIS and game mechanics. Krauser lowers his arm once he gets close and goes for an attack. In a real battle with no CPU, he could easily just keep his arm up to deflect all the bullets till BB is out and then blitz and impale him.
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Originally posted by Nikkolas
Don't care. Krauser blocks all of BB's shots with his arm. Saddler impales his head on his spiked-tentacle. Saddler takes all of BB's ammo into him and is totally uneffected while Krauser easily impales him on his arm. It's a pretty simple battle as BB is not as fast as Krauser or Saddler.Shame the time it takes to raise and aim that weapon will be more than enough for Saddler to blitz him. BB is not faster than Krauser or Saddler. He'll be dead before he knows it.
This is simply a stupid argument. I don't care what Leon or The Boss did. This fight is about Big Boss and Big Boss can not dodge or hit or hurt Saddler and Krauser but they can very easily destroy him.
Do tell how Leon defeated him? With bullets and guns? Then what is the difference from BB doing it?
I must say that their speed is not the primary difficult for BB. If you play PO he faces Cunningham (I think, or Meme) which has the speed at almost Gray Fox rate, he can dodge bullets easily and toss 10 knifes at once, and Null who is like a cyborg ninja. They are easily comparable, Null could also block bullets and had a gun in the other hand!
That’s nice. Raiden has also beaten Vamp who is vastly faster than him. Also beaten Solidus vastly faster than him. However, it’s game mechanics. You basically put Solid Snake, a very good soldier with no real inhuman abilities, up against someone like Vamp who has immense speed and some quasi-mystical power and even if Snake could beat him in the game, simply looking at their abilities makes it pretty clear Vamp should win. Same applies here. Big Boss does not have speed on the level of Saddler or Krauser. He does not have any method of hurting them as they both have defenses against bullets. You look at those two facts and it’s crystla clear BB loses.