Originally posted by Nikkolas
Leon on his first day of being a cop survived in a city of monsters trying to kiill him, succeeding where all other more trained and experienced officers had failed.
Lots of slow-ass zombies would be hardly a threat to Snake, and the only serious chalange Leon faced in Racoon city was (correct me if I'm wrong it was years ago) William.
Dodging lasers was impressive but only when they moved towards him all together and still nothing Snake couldn't perform.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Putting down a big-ass tank is a lot different from putting down an extremely fast human-sized figure. You can launch all the RPGs you want at Krauser. You honestly think anything Snake fires can land on Krauser? Bullets can be blocked by the arm. He could easily move out of the way if Snake pulled out an explosive weapon. It would take a great deal of time to raise, aim and fire and that’s more than enough time for Krauser to be well out of the sights of the weapon, let alone still in the position the projectile is fired at and arrives at its destination.
As I sdaid it all depends on the place they fight in and equipment Snake has. Don't try to convince anyone that Krauzer can dodge ANYTHING Snake comes up with including hidden TNT or C3 combined with machinegun fire. It would only work if they are in small open area and even then Krauzer would eventually get hit by something.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
All he does is comment on the equipment they are given. I am not gonna assume that lines means anything more than what it says without further in-game evidence.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
With the equipment they are given.
And what these guys were doing alone proves they are superhumans.
Wanna argue that too? Because that was my original point.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Okay then. Prove to me the suit did absolutely nothing for her physical capabilities. Where is this stated or shown?
Logic states that, she haven't done anything that impressive while wearing a suit, except high jumps and she did that while she wasn't wearing suit as well.
She blocked bullets, yes. But that's what Solidus and even Raiden do as well. Raiden who is acoording to you an ordinary man, so why can't Olga do that?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Not really. Above-average reflexes maybe but not anything even remotely super-speed levels. Solidus can also block bullets with his swords, has his tentacle arms for long-range fire or attack, can easily dodge and accelerate from any type of explosive projectile launched at him...
Thank you for proving me right. I'd like to see someone with a little "above-average" reflexes block machinegun fire from Rays. And just in case, if you think Solidus does that all only thanks to the suit, then nothing like that was stated.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Snake DOES NOT HAVE SUPER-SPEED. It’s that simple. If the opponent does, and the plot is not being intentionally stupid to let Snake win, he dies. He can not move fast enough to save himself from a blitz by anyone as fast as Solidus, Krauser, etc.
I just proved that he DOES have it, not of Fox's or Krauzer's level ofcourse but he still does. And stop blaming plot, by this logic no character of any game would've been alive now if we assumed that plot is the only reason they win. Plot didn't stopped Snake from getting his ass handed to him by Fortune, so if he orginaly wasn't fast, skilled and tough enough to mess with super-fast beings like Fox authors wouldn't have made it into h2h fight.
And for the last time, Snake CAN react fast enough to dodge speeding bullets, why not fast enough to fight Fox or Krauzer?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
True. But it still doesn’t demonstrate the uber-hardness to kill you said he had.
First of all BB at the time was far from his top shape. He was plain old. Besides dieing from being burnt alive doesn't disprove my uber-hardness to kill argument. Krauzer can survive wounds that are mortal for any human. Though it doesn't mean that he can take more physical punishment like beating before getting koed. That's about will and endurance. Have you checked the beating BB took from Volgin? After that he was tortured, git his leg and eye shot, got his hand broken twice, survived two falls from waterfalls, got blown up poisont and only THEN he beat Volgin, The Boss, Ocelot and destroyed Shagohod.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Yep. Fox was going easy on Snake. Punches and kicks from Snake just don’t pack the same kind of speed or power as REX’s Vulcan cannons or its foot attempting to crush you. Does Snake throw punches faster than bullets now?
Snake's punches weren't turning Fox into a red spot on the floor, only hurting him, so Grey being killed by Rex has nothing to do with Snake's punches. And you are mistake, Fox wasn't going easy on Snake, remember when electricity covered his body he went berserk. He tried to cut Snake's head off few times and was clearly going at his full seed. But he just couldn't. Snake doesn't throw punches faster than bullets but being an uber fast guy himself he eventually was able to land hits on Fox.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
So Krauser couldn’t just reach up and stop him or hit him before he was capable of raising the knife and getting in the proper position for this strike?
Not if Snake prevents him from grabbing his hand or however he is going to stop him. I can't explain how or why untill you accept the fact that Snake is FAR beyond any ordinary human in terms of speed and reaction.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
He must be a hell of a good marksman if he can hit a guy who will be right in his face, attempting to impale him with speeds he can’t match.
Hell of a good?! We are talking about a guy that matches Ocelot in temrs of shooting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiyDhIklVcMOriginally posted by Nikkolas
Kay. Here’s how it realy would work.There are a few more reasonable scenarios. Such as Snake firing at Krauser with his guns or attempting to use explosives against him. He can block the first and dodge the second. If he gets in close and BB is hoping an empty launcher, having just fired a round, I see Big Boss as kinda even more screwed. BB can’t do anything to his defenses/ Just have him expend his ammo and then blitz and shred to pieces. In fact, Krauser has a gun of his own he can use if he wants.
You are talking about trained killer with years of trining and experience of fighting superhumans, not just a looser with launcher. If it's a big terrotory and Snake has his equipment he wouldn't run around blowin everything. He would make Krauzer get hit by a hidden explosives. Even Krauzer wouldn't dodge something he doesn't see coming. And from the cover SNake'd fire AK at him at the same time. It'd take Krauzer much more than just a hand to deflect or block. If this is pure h2h then it's a different scenario and I still see Snake winning.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
All of which is pretty possible for humans. The latter, especially. It’s not hard, if you work out, to toss guys around. Unless these were 500 pound guys, it’s human levels of strength.
You really think it's possible for ordinary trained man to send somebody flying 10 meters through the air with a punch? 😕 Or train leg muscles so much tha you can jump like 10 meters straight up from the very place you are standing? I'd like to see olympic athlets do half of that. And do you remember Raven guy that Snake killed?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Please don’t use A>B>C Logic. It’s very faulty. Just because Volgin has superior strength doesn’t mean jack shit. BB doesn’t have it and that’s all that matters.And his reflexes are nice but Krauser has superior speed and a way to block every shot. So...good luck with that.
Man, I'm not trying to use ABC logic. I'm using feats from the game. How else are we supposed to judge about characters' abilities but by their feats from the games? You believe that Snake is an ordinary man because that's what he's supposed to be, I judge about his speed, strength and reflexes by his feats and guys he can keep up with. In his very first appearance Snake was fast enough to mess with Grey Fox, so can't we just take that as a fact?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
I’m very tired of this. You won’t accept it and we’re going back and forth. SNAKE CAN’T HURT KRAUSER. Krauser is FASTER. Krauser can BLOCK or DODGE EVERYTHING Big Boss throws at him. NOTHING will hit him. You won’t accept this so I’m not even gonna bother.
You're right about one thing, we are going back and forth. I already gave yo scenario how can Snake defeat Krauzer and gave reasons why he's physically capable of that. Accepting ot ignoring it is your choice.
See you around and happy new year..