The Omniverse, (the structure of all Comic Universes)

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, if anyone goes back to our argument they'll quickly noticed you kept up a defiance of the On Panel proof for whatever mysterious reasons.

A truck load of FACTS were given but you couldn't deal with the reality that you were wrong.

When I'm proven wrong (with proof) I concede and move on, when I'm contradicted with baseless or straight up made up opinions and theories I challenge that continuosly for the sake of the onlookers.

I won't fall for that bait again,

as you wish. 😎

No. You were just plain wrong, just plain lying, and just plain crazy.

No more "Nice Guy".

Where your scans disagreed with your opinions, I pointed it out.
Where I thought your Opinions were wrong, I pointed it out.
Where your scans negated, or did not adhere to the TONS of storylines and Marvel Canon, I said that rather than ignore a multitude of information going in one direction for a questionable scan pointing in another, I will make a judgement call, and adhere to the masses.

You are wrong.
Your opinions were silly and inflexible, and I would imagine that sooner or later, something will happen on panel that will make you feel stupid for causing all this fuss, and you will be proven, irrevocably wrong!
But, I doubt you will admit it even then.

Originally posted by leonidas
i didn't mean to imply you DID say he was operating omniversally. i also don't think that if lt stepped into some other multiverse that he would lose all his power, though i'm less sure of that. if his power is tied solely to his role as the multiverse's supreme arbiter, then perhaps he WOULD lose power. or at least his decisions would be refuteable and not necessarily upheld. he MAY possess influence still, but the extent of that influence may be much less?

I see,

but there is no proof of that, yet there is proof that he presides over ALL the Multi-verses simultaneously.

Being second only to TOAA (who created the Omni-verse), I don't see that as a stretch

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm talking about the avengers arc where the IG being was reformed (least i'm pretty sure that's what i'm thinking . . .) the IG had been deemed unuseable by lt but in the ultraverse it was used anyway.

I'll look into that right now, and see the reasons behind it all.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I was going to reply to this part of your post more indepth with scans,

but since I just noticed I been insulted again by the thread starter (who can't let go of his grudge it seems), I'll take this up in my thread.

Look in there for furthur info with proof as always.

ps. I just don't want to make this thread any more visually stimulating than I already have, it's undeserving.

As far as I am concerned, you are one notch above a spammer, and anybody who reads this thread from the beginning, will see that you started negative and nasty and causing trouble, and just tried to annoy.

You shouldn't even be posting to this thread. Remember when you said you wouldn't post anymore, as you insulted the thread and me, left and right, for no reason?

As anybody can see from my posts, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. To me, this is just for fun.

Some of us realize we are discussing Comic Books!

Get bent.

Originally posted by Horrificus
No. You were just plain wrong, just plain lying, and just plain crazy.

No more "Nice Guy".

Where your scans disagreed with your opinions, I pointed it out.
Where I thought your Opinions were wrong, I pointed it out.
Where your scans negated, or did not adhere to the TONS of storylines and Marvel Canon, I said that rather than ignore a multitude of information going in one direction for a questionable scan pointing in another, I will make a judgement call, and adhere to the masses.

You are wrong.
Your opinions were silly and inflexible, and I would imagine that sooner or later, something will happen on panel that will make you feel stupid for causing all this fuss, and you will be proven, irrevocably wrong!
But, I doubt you will admit it even then.

Thank you for the solidification of my point.

Your defiance was laughable then, now,

your just typing with fury, while I'm 😎

....poor thing....

Ok,

this is getting childish,

Leon, see you in my house.

Um, ok.
And, your opinion is solid?

Mr. Master gives his arguement:

"Uh, see those people movin' the pieces around on the chessboard? Well, each one of those pieces are a Multiverse. Duh."

"Why? Because, Roma is an Omniversal Guardian. So, they must be Multiverses."

"What? You don't agree? Let me call you names, put the thread down, and belittle you for 8 forum pages worth of my mania."

"I will ignore panels and panels of evidence contrary to my opinion, and use the fact that the word "Omniversal" has been used 2 times in a freaking Excalibur book, to justify my insane dissing of the rest of the Marvel Universe."

"Why? Because Captain Britain is Neat!"

Originally posted by Horrificus
Um, ok.
And, your opinion is solid?

Mr. Master gives his arguement:

"Uh, see those people movin' the pieces around on the chessboard? Well, each one of those pieces are a Multiverse. Duh."

"Why? Because, Roma is an Omniversal Guardian. So, they must be Multiverses."

Just wanted to prove to EVERYONE that even NOW, your still a babboon who doesn't pay attention, and this was always WHY I SPANKED you like a child with A.D.D.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Merlin and Roma begin a game of Chess and Multi-verse 616 is their Chess Board.

Notice there are many Chess Boards floating around them, EACH BOARD representing a Multi-verse

The CHESS BOARD is A MULTI-VERSE, and the PIECES REPRESENT UNIVERSESSSSSSSS!!!

Originally posted by Horrificus
"What? You don't agree? Let me call you names, put the thread down, and belittle you for 8 forum pages worth of my mania."

Apparently it was well deserved, your my silly child, you was then and EVIDENTLY you still are.

The only thing your good at, is blowing off steam, you have ZERO debating skills, and your ATTENTION SPAN is as far as a FART!

Glad you made an ass of yourself AGAIN!

Originally posted by Horrificus
"I will ignore panels and panels of evidence contrary to my opinion, and use the fact that the word "Omniversal" has been used 2 times in a freaking Excalibur book, to justify my insane dissing of the rest of the Marvel Universe."

"Why? Because Captain Britain is Neat!"

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Say, why do you think the board is a Multiverse?

It seems like a universe. I mean, I know there's more then one multiverse, but that board doesn't seem to be one.

good evening people i just went through this thread from beginning to end and i agree with mm all the way i never saw one post from horrificus that even made sense and i mean no offense horiificus but mm has posted proof with everything he said and it all fits i don't agree with him getting rude but it seems that he got that way out of fustration rather than spite i seen mm in many debates and he pretty much knows his thing especially when it comes to cosmics

what i never saw was where your getting your information from its like your going against what mm is posting backed up with the comic pictures just to do so but i never saw a legitament rebuttal on your part horrificus not even the poor paintshop program you used to draw your own rendition of what the omniverse is

Originally posted by Smoki
good evening people i just went through this thread from beginning to end and i agree with mm all the way i never saw one post from horrificus that even made sense and i mean no offense horiificus but mm has posted proof with everything he said and it all fits i don't agree with him getting rude but it seems that he got that way out of fustration rather than spite i seen mm in many debates and he pretty much knows his thing especially when it comes to cosmics

what i never saw was where your getting your information from its like your going against what mm is posting backed up with the comic pictures just to do so but i never saw a legitament rebuttal on your part horrificus not even the poor paintshop program you used to draw your own rendition of what the omniverse is

I agree with this poster in every word. I also passed through the whole thread and only the Masters guy seems to make sense out of Horrificus and him. I myself dont know much about cosmic types but I think I can read well and my doctor says my vision is great, haha. I will say I didn't appreciate any of the debators going to such extremes of disrespect but the Masters guy makes sense and on top of that backs it all up with the irrefutable scans. To be honest Horrificus just tangled my senses and left me nearly not wanting to even read furthur into his posts, they are drawn out and down right confusing but Masters is clear and I pretty much agree with everything he said.

Great job Masters thumbsup

in trying to steer clear of the war raging 'round here, i lost some track in this thread. mm, why ARE you so certain the boards represent multiverses as opposed to universes or even specific individuals within universes?

Originally posted by Smoki
good evening people i just went through this thread from beginning to end and i agree with mm all the way i never saw one post from horrificus that even made sense and i mean no offense horiificus but mm has posted proof with everything he said and it all fits i don't agree with him getting rude but it seems that he got that way out of fustration rather than spite i seen mm in many debates and he pretty much knows his thing especially when it comes to cosmics

what i never saw was where your getting your information from its like your going against what mm is posting backed up with the comic pictures just to do so but i never saw a legitament rebuttal on your part horrificus not even the poor paintshop program you used to draw your own rendition of what the omniverse is

Originally posted by unknowable
I agree with this poster in every word. I also passed through the whole thread and only the Masters guy seems to make sense out of Horrificus and him. I myself dont know much about cosmic types but I think I can read well and my doctor says my vision is great, haha. I will say I didn't appreciate any of the debators going to such extremes of disrespect but the Masters guy makes sense and on top of that backs it all up with the irrefutable scans. To be honest Horrificus just tangled my senses and left me nearly not wanting to even read furthur into his posts, they are drawn out and down right confusing but Masters is clear and I pretty much agree with everything he said.

Great job Masters thumbsup

hmmm . . .

Dude, why is everyone lambasting this thread? It seems like with such a pool of knowledge, a establishment of a simple omniversla map would be easy...

But NO, everyone goes for each others throats.

Originally posted by Smoki
good evening people i just went through this thread from beginning to end and i agree with mm all the way i never saw one post from horrificus that even made sense and i mean no offense horiificus but mm has posted proof with everything he said and it all fits i don't agree with him getting rude but it seems that he got that way out of fustration rather than spite i seen mm in many debates and he pretty much knows his thing especially when it comes to cosmics

what i never saw was where your getting your information from its like your going against what mm is posting backed up with the comic pictures just to do so but i never saw a legitament rebuttal on your part horrificus not even the poor paintshop program you used to draw your own rendition of what the omniverse is

Thanx dude,

interesting how you realized I just got worked up due to an irritating frustration that came over me, it's no excuse though and for that I do apologize if I offended any onlookers such as yourself.

I began posting in this thread with much civility but it's like how many times can you tell a child, "don't touch that" before you explode. Still, I should have kept my composure.

If you trully seen me debate before you should know that's not not common for me, I do get a bit steamed when I have to repeat something dozens of times (WITH On Panel PROOF) and they still don't get it. I suppose not everyone is as attuned to understanding as others,

I will be patient from now on though.

Originally posted by unknowable
Great job Masters thumbsup

😄

"Ok ok, let me just stop the madness. This thread while honorable in it's attempt is causing mass confusion."

Civil, eh?

Originally posted by leonidas
in trying to steer clear of the war raging 'round here, i lost some track in this thread. mm, why ARE you so certain the boards represent multiverses as opposed to universes or even specific individuals within universes?

Roma says, "The Game's disintegrating, but the MULTI-VERSE DEPENDS upon the GAME"

"Merlin taught you that REALITY is a Grand Game of Chess"

Originally posted by leonidas
hmmm . . .

Are you thinking about agreeing or disagreeing?

You can PM me, I know you wouldn't say it in public.

I won't be offended either.

As you can see if you start at the beginning of this thread, Mr. Master began being a problem from the minute he started posting.

He was calling names and insulting me from the beginning.

Why? Because, he obviously has been somebody that everybody listened to.
Well, he is wrong.
And, there is NOTHING ANYWHERE THAT SAYS THOSE BOARDS OR PIECES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MULTIVERSES, YOU IDIOT!

As a matter of fact, it shows a piece being moved, and a single character acting with it. That's all!

There is a Captain UK for every universe with a UK in it. Not 1 for each Multiverse, policing a multiverse, with power over a multiverse.
He is a universal protector. For 1 universe. Roma watches over these universes.

There is 1 Galactus per universe. He does not preside over the multiverse or omniverse. Nor does IM. They are not that powerful.

I already proved this stuff. That is why you scampered away for almost a week.

You are insane, and you have a following of low-brow lackey's, that think they are cool if they back you.

This thread was a harmless mapping project. If you don't like it, stay out. If you keep coming back to cause trouble, then you are a problem, and need to be dealt with by the mods.

Just ignore this thread, and go play with your inflatable "Mommy Doll" or something.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you thinking about agreeing or disagreeing?

You can PM me, I know you wouldn't say it in public.

I won't be offended either.

i wasn't commenting on the content of either post. by now you know i agree with some of what you have postulated, and disagree with some of it. our disagreements have been rather well documented. 😄 i was merely 'hmmm'ing' the appearance of the posts themselves. they'd previously been posted in a different thread then simultaneously moved to THIS thread. just seemed odd to me for some reason.

😬

about the chess games: i will admit to being rather . . . skeptical . . . in the recent scans, the mention of chess seems to be a metaphor as opposed to a literal description of a multiverse as a board. if that's the only evidence you have, i'm just not entirely sure how you came to the conclusion that the multiverses were actually represented as chessboards. i freely admit i can only debate this point so far, though -- the info is all being provided by you. i have no real knowledge of the arc or even the series you are pulling this from (hence the reason i've stayed pretty much clear of this particular topic). anyway, as a result, i'm left with looking at what i see and interpreting accordingly.

from what i've seen, the association of chessboard-as-multiverse is . . . pretty tenuous. even saying the multiverse depends on the game -- if the pieces represent 'powerful beings' couldn't one of the 'pieces' -- should it (or its side) prove victorious -- pose a potential threat to the multiverse? odin and dormammu had something similar when they played chess -- odin as a player for order, dormy for chaos. i think the grandmaster also played a similar type game. i guess i'd just like to see something a little more . . . substantial. you know me -- ever the skeptic. 😉