Kramer a Racist?

Originally posted by heru
Lets be realistic here. People are quick to call a white person racist, because of white folks history. There ancestors, is the reason why they carry that reputation today. One of things that Native Americans, Africans, Irish, and the Jews have in common. Is they all were persecuted by white people. So no matter how much, one once to defend Kramer for his actions. He will be looked at, as a racist prick in the eyes of those he offended.

WHich is a double standard and shit. Just to be clear.

Originally posted by FeceMan
What's funny that, if he had stopped with the "fork in your ass" comment, he would have been fine.

What's irritating is that people get all up in arms about that, but completely ignore this:

http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1162817495/Green_Day_Ass_Kicking

(Warning, chance of NSFW attention whore pictures on the website.)

He was completely out of line.

And black comedians saying the word "cracka" doesn't in any way justify this idiot calling those hecklers the N word.

And when black comedians say it, its has humor in it, but he used it as a reaction, he could have very well found some other way to insult them but no, he went way too far in calling then the N word. It was in no way funny, he was really trying to break them down.

I have no doubt that his show was actually not funny at all. Im glad they pointed that out to him.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
He was completely out of line.

And black comedians saying the word "cracka" doesn't in any way justify this idiot calling those hecklers the N word.

And when black comedians say it, its has humor in it, but he used it as a reaction, he could have very well found some other way to insult them but no, he went way too far in calling then the N word. It was in no way funny, he was really trying to break them down.

I have no doubt that his show was actually not funny at all. Im glad they pointed that out to him.

Oh hell yes it does. ****** is a word like any other. When people like you stop to get all whiny about the word is when it won't matter anymore.

And what he said had humour in it too,. Maybe you didn't like it, but it did have humour in it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh hell yes it does. ****** is a word like any other. When people like you stop to get all whiny about the word is when it won't matter anymore.

And what he said had humour in it too,. Maybe you didn't like it, but it did have humour in it.

He did add humor to it. He was saying "you can dish it, but you can't take it?"

For starters, most comedians can handle hecklers (most in sports and politians)...but sometimes, it does get out of hand. I think he told them what was true, although I don't think it was 50 years ago, but he's older and he knows. I've been around blacks, they can provoke, yet, if a white person does this to them, it's "out of line".

Both were out of line, and I wouldn't be surprised if the blacks used racial slurs at kramer, as they do use the words N* to both blacks and whites, and they could have called him the C* word too.

Could you all please start saying the actual word instead of the C word or the N word...

They are just words people....

Originally posted by Fishy
Could you all please start saying the actual word instead of the C word or the N word...

They are just words people....

I have no problem with saying them ..since indeed...they are just words.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I don't know. I can't think of any joke that would insukt me like that. A joke about my race doesn't hurt me. Neither about sexuality. Or Nationality.

Sorry but if I stood in a crowd and started calling you fudge packer, ****** or just homo and kept bashing it on you, I guarantee you friend that you would be at best "annoyed"

Originally posted by LordFear
Sorry but if I stood in a crowd and started calling you fudge packer, ****** or just homo and kept bashing it on you, I guarantee you friend that you would be at best "annoyed"

Yes, but if we stood in a crowd and you'd start yelling "broccoli", "Coca Cola" and "Johann Sebastian Bach" at me, I guarantee you, my friend that I would be at least annoyed, as well.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, but if we stood in a crowd and you'd start yelling "broccoli", "Coca Cola" and "Johann Sebastian Bach" at me, I guarantee you, my friend that I would be at least annoyed, as well.

You're smart, make more points.

I heard some accounts that said the hecklers called him "cracker". Mind you, when I grew up, we never said either word, I grew up around whites (but spent 3 years in East Brooklyn, that's were I heard the word ******, and the blacks were so surprised that I never heard the word, I did after living in klanville, after we moved down south, but I spent less then 3 years in grade school with blacks and that's were I heard the word ******).

Now, as an adult, I worked various jobs through high school and college, and I got to know a lot of blacks from all backgrounds. That's when I first heard the word "crackers" that had nothing to do with soup. And I remember thinking this word is so silly and I had to ask where did this one come from, and why "crackers", why not "milk" or what else is white?....well, you get my point. It's silly.

When I looked at the video, Kramer is pulling his ear, this body language MAY indicate HE CAN HEAR THEM, and he probably heard some things that really hurt his feelings, as he is Jewish, and Jewish people have had a close relationship with blacks, so, he responded back with the feelings he had about what those guys were THINKING and SAYING.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I have no problem with saying them ..since indeed...they are just words.

If you write those words, it'll be stared out ******

Originally posted by Oncewhite
If you write those words, it'll be stared out ******

If you say n-word, it will look idiotic. Everyone knows what is meant. Either way.

Didn't you ask me why I was referring to C and N? Isn't it better to just to say C or N, then to say the word, unless you are on a Kramer rant.

This is what I heard (online) that the heckers said:

""you're not funny you dumb cracker""

And then, maybe they were saying more stuff, because Kramer's body language was such that he was pulling his ears, telling anyone who knows body language that HE CAN HEAR YOU.but the hecklers kept on talking about his race and how he was dumb and wasn't any good. So, Kramer fought back, as he is Jewish, and again, Jewish folks did a lot to help blacks.

And I don't go to comedy clubs because if you aren't pretty or if you have 10lbs on you, you can end up crying at the end of the day, because some will pick on the audience. And the two blacks in the audience were the ones who were mocking his race.

Good Comedians usually don't pick on the audience....not for such purposes that is.

And no, I just agreed that we should use cracker and ****** instead of the n and c-word, cause they sound retarded.

[QUOTE=7818865]Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
[B]Someone with a tenuous understanding of the concept of humour.

**** you i know my comedy
Its a funny line
****ing PC clown

Originally posted by Bardock42
Good Comedians usually don't pick on the audience....not for such purposes that is.

And no, I just agreed that we should use cracker and ****** instead of the n and c-word, cause they sound retarded.

what are you, a conduit?

I just can't wait til the ring tones come out with the Kramer rants.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
what are you, a conduit?

...what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvInZ-QBGc