Originally posted by Oncewhite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrvInZ-QBGc
That was not too bad actually. I mean the first one was a good joke. And then they started with white boy, cracker....I mean he lost it. But they are the ones who actually were the assholes.
And these folks on you tube and such, calling Kramer a kkk member, please. I grew up with kkk children, if they call someone a ******, it's not always because they are angry, and they don't apologize, even if it means less money, they don't care. Go to Alabama, parts of Ga, and FL...and you'll see, Kramer is not a racist, he was upset, but he is not a kkk member, by far!!!! And I think they are kicking a man while he is down, he was heckled to the point that it pissed him off, and it was regarding RACE, I can see if they heckled him about his HEIGHT or weight (yelling "you skinny man, get off the stage"😉 and from there, he said ..."lOOK THERE'S A ******" I would think that's kinda racist BECAUSE he wasn't responding to an initial racist response, HOWEVER, he was being heckled for being white, and they were saying "your white and your not any good", and he reponded back "LOOK THERE'S A ******", makes sense to me.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That was not too bad actually. I mean the first one was a good joke. And then they started with white boy, cracker....I mean he lost it. But they are the ones who actually were the assholes.
well, it was edited. they started calling him "craka-ass" and then stormed out. not that it matters though. why are the hecklers not considered racist? only way someone can attempt to justify that would be "he did it first!!!"
what if it was the other way around? what if they called him names first? still wouldnt matter. thats a disgusting double standard.
so if i was black and was really pissed off i could just say whatever the hell i please and not have to censor myself? i could call someone any name i wanted and threaten them and nobody would complain? that would be sooooo frikin awsome
Originally posted by PVS
well, it was edited. they started calling him "craka-ass" and then stormed out. not that it matters though. why are the hecklers not considered racist? only way someone can attempt to justify that would be "he did it first!!!"
what if it was the other way around? what if they called him names first? still wouldnt matter. thats a disgusting double standard.so if i was black and was really pissed off i could just say whatever the hell i please and not have to censor myself? i could call someone any name i wanted and threaten them and nobody would complain? that would be sooooo frikin awsome
Cause they were black. And black people CANT be racist in America..everybody knows that.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9sEUIZsmTOE LOLO ..Enjoy if you havent seen ..Im african-american btw ... but i can take alot of things ..but this guy, takes the cake
Originally posted by Gregory
Do you people honestly think that "cracker" is just as offensive as "nigg*r"? Everybody involved may have been being racist, but Kramer was being so much more offensive, it's just no contest. Not to mention the lynching comment.
If Kramer is racist then surely you must admit Chris Rock and all those other comedians that say "ni*ger and cracker" are racist as well.
Originally posted by RobtardKRAMER IS A RACIST
Do you think before you type? Jews can be "white people" and the Irish are "white people", some of the whitest to be exact. As far as being labeled a racist because someone fails to knee-jerk and call someone a racist for saying "nig#er", that's the shortcomings of the accuser. I'll reiterate once again, just saying a "racist" term doesn't automatically make someone a racist.
Originally posted by KidRock
If Kramer is racist then surely you must admit Chris Rock and all those other comedians that say "ni*ger and cracker" are racist as well.
I would say they are all racist, but when Kramer did it, it wasn't funny. When he did it, he sounded 100% serious, where as people like Chris Rock always have that funny way of saying it.
Originally posted by KidRockThe difference is, Kramer did it out of pure anger. He started the racial slur calling, not the people in the audience. Out of all of the things he could of said. He chose to use racial remarks. KRAMER IS A RACIST.
If Kramer is racist then surely you must admit Chris Rock and all those other comedians that say "ni*ger and cracker" are racist as well.
Originally posted by KidRock
If Kramer is racist then surely you must admit Chris Rock and all those other comedians that say "ni*ger and cracker" are racist as well.
Kramer is not racist because he said nigg*r. He's racist because he screamed it at black members of his audience when he lost his temper. There are contexts where you can say nigg*r and cracker in a comedy routine without being racist; check this out, for example. Kramer didn't do that. Kramer wasn't being funny; he wasn't telling a joke. He just lost his temper and started hurling around racist epithets. Surly you seee a difference between that and the linked clip, for example?
I can't comment specifically on Chris Rock; I don't watch much standup, and I don't know who he is or what he's like.
Originally posted by Gregory
Kramer is not racist because he said nigg*r. He's racist because he screamed it at black members of his audience when he lost his temper. There are contexts where you can say nigg*r and cracker in a comedy routine without being racist; check this out, for example. Kramer didn't do that. Kramer wasn't being funny; he wasn't telling a joke. He just lost his temper and started hurling around racist epithets. Surly you seee a difference between that and the linked clip, for example?I can't comment specifically on Chris Rock; I don't watch much standup, and I don't know who he is or what he's like.
So if I make jokes like "what is long black and stinky?" " the unemployment line"..I am not being racist..because its a joke?
Racism is racism and if kramer is one then so is kidrock, martin lawrence and the rest of them.
So if I make jokes like "what is long black and stinky?" " the unemployment line"..I am not being racist..because its a joke?
You're being completely absurd? Did you even read my post? Here, let's try again.
Kramer: Lost his temper at a black person; started screaming racist epithets at them.
SNL: A word-association test degenerates into a racist screaming match.
Your joke: Hurhur blacks sure do smell! Also they're unemployed!
These examples are not the same. "Racism is racism" is not a valid excuse to be simplistic. One of them is not a joke, and is racist. One of them is a joke, and is racist. Another is a joke, and is not racist, despite being full of racist terms.